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Old 09-15-2009, 05:39 PM   #1
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Very kind words from The Duke...

"Kyle's been in there before. He'll be perfect in this offense as time goes on and he gets more comfortable with it."

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What would Elway know about winning games?
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Didn't he say something to the same effect about Griese, Cutler and Plummer?
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I was thinking it would say "Well Pat coulda done worse...yea he coulda done better, but he could've done worse."
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:53 PM   #5
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I was thinking it would say "Well Pat coulda done worse...yea he coulda done better, but he could've done worse."
Hey! My fellow Northern Colorado Bear fan! Whatz up Missin#7?
Go Bears!! beat the Bison!!
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Elway was always able to look at his game and say what do I need to do to get better. Notice how he admitted he had same problems Cutler is having? forcing the ball, trying to do too much.

Elway though had a way of winning that so far has eluded Cutler. So Elway was able to last what 12-13 yrs, learned along the way, and then won in his last 2 yrs. Along the way though he got better at protecting the ball.

Will the Bears be offering Cutler what he wants if he has a bad yr. It will be uncapped, Cutler will want to get paid. What will Bears say to him if they don't feel comfortable giving him Rivers type money? Will Cutler just implode.

Exactly when does Cutlers contract expire? When it does will Bears have him signed already, or will they maybe just Tag him and see if some other team willing to take him? Or do it to let another team set his worth?

Next off season will be chaos IMO without a CBA.

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Old 09-15-2009, 06:27 PM   #8
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Didn't he say something to the same effect about Griese, Cutler and Plummer?
EXACTLY. With all respect to the Duke, I think he's full of hoo sometimes. EVERYBODY is going to be good, according to him.
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Old 09-15-2009, 06:56 PM   #9
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Elway was always able to look at his game and say what do I need to do to get better. Notice how he admitted he had same problems Cutler is having? forcing the ball, trying to do too much.

Elway though had a way of winning that so far has eluded Cutler. So Elway was able to last what 12-13 yrs, learned along the way, and then won.

Will the Bears be offering Cutler what he wants if he has a bad yr. It will be uncapped, Cutler will want to get paid. What will Bears say to him if they don't feel comfortable giving him Rivers type money? Will Cutler just implode.

Exactly when does Cutlers contract expire? When it does will Bears have him signed already, or will they maybe just Tag him and see if some other team willing to take him? Or do it to let another team set his worth?

Next off season will be chaos IMO without a CBA.
As much as I disagree with you in the WPR forum I gotta say you have some great football takes. That is a very interesting point.

I am thinking McD saw the hand writing on the wall, he realized Cutler thought so much of himself that he was going to demand to be the highest paid player in football, he also realized that given Cutler's attitude he was going to be difficult to coach, he also sumized that he did not need a costly gun slinger to run his system so when it all gets added up cutler was not really a good fit here in Denver.

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Old 09-15-2009, 07:14 PM   #10
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<<<-------------- Not impressed with the "system" so far.

I still say Orton sucks. It's time for Simms.
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:18 PM   #11
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As much as I disagree with you in the WPR forum I gotta say you have some great football takes. That is a very interesting point.

I am thinking McD saw the hand writing on the wall, he realized Cutler thought so much of himself that he was going to demand to be the highest paid player in football, he also realized that given Cutler's attitude he was going to be difficult to coach, he also sumized that he did not need a costly gun slinger to run his system so when it all gets added up cutler was not really a good fit here in Denver.
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:40 PM   #12
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Didn't he say something to the same effect about Griese, Cutler and Plummer?
I was going to say the samething. He has liked every qb brought in since he retired. I am not gonna put much stock in what he says regarding the current QB who ever that might be
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:50 PM   #13
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Elway is a company man, he knows where the fan love is and where the money came from and where his legacy lies. He'll always toe the company line, unless there is a good reason for him not to.
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:53 PM   #14
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Seriously what else is he going to say? The man went to Stanford, he's not stupid.
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:55 PM   #15
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Didn't he say something to the same effect about Griese, Cutler and Plummer?
Yep. At least he was right about one of them.
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Who would have thought it would be Plummer
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Old 09-15-2009, 08:14 PM   #17
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Didn't he say something to the same effect about Griese, Cutler and Plummer?

The basic annual sound bite from Elway on the Broncos quarterback situation. He's definitely entitled, but it's usually the same thing every year.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:01 PM   #18
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Elway was always able to look at his game and say what do I need to do to get better. Notice how he admitted he had same problems Cutler is having? forcing the ball, trying to do too much.

Elway though had a way of winning that so far has eluded Cutler. So Elway was able to last what 12-13 yrs, learned along the way, and then won in his last 2 yrs. Along the way though he got better at protecting the ball.

Will the Bears be offering Cutler what he wants if he has a bad yr. It will be uncapped, Cutler will want to get paid. What will Bears say to him if they don't feel comfortable giving him Rivers type money? Will Cutler just implode.

Exactly when does Cutlers contract expire? When it does will Bears have him signed already, or will they maybe just Tag him and see if some other team willing to take him? Or do it to let another team set his worth?

Next off season will be chaos IMO without a CBA.

If Bowlen had any reservations about giving Cutler a new contract, the 'uncapped' year would have made his mind up for him.

Same goes for Marshall........who'd be a real liability once he becomes FU rich.

But Bowlen, being old, drunk and forgetful, probably didn't notice.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:40 PM   #19
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Cutler is a RFA next year.
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Elway was always able to look at his game and say what do I need to do to get better. Notice how he admitted he had same problems Cutler is having? forcing the ball, trying to do too much.

Elway though had a way of winning that so far has eluded Cutler. So Elway was able to last what 12-13 yrs, learned along the way, and then won in his last 2 yrs. Along the way though he got better at protecting the ball.

Will the Bears be offering Cutler what he wants if he has a bad yr. It will be uncapped, Cutler will want to get paid. What will Bears say to him if they don't feel comfortable giving him Rivers type money? Will Cutler just implode.

Exactly when does Cutlers contract expire? When it does will Bears have him signed already, or will they maybe just Tag him and see if some other team willing to take him? Or do it to let another team set his worth?

Next off season will be chaos IMO without a CBA.
Elway had losin seasons hate to burst your bubble
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The basic annual sound bite from Elway on the Broncos quarterback situation. He's definitely entitled, but it's usually the same thing every year.
hell tj what other that can he say ?
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I don't have any problems with Orton right now. But I also say that knowing he was the bag of chips that came with the double roast beef sandwich (the 2 first round picks). I think one of the reasons why this deal made sense for Denver was because Orton had just 1 year left on his deal. If he plays lights out then Denver could try and sign him long term. But if he doesn't play as well as the Broncos hope for the entire year, they are not on the hook for any long term contract. I see Orton, and always have, as a stop gap QB. This team is rebuilding from the bottom up and I don't think for a second that Josh is saying to himself that he has found "his guy" for the long term. He drafted Tom as a project and that looks like it could be fruitful down the road but I don't have any gut feeling at all that either Orton or Simms is the QB that Josh wants long term.
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I would like to get about 15 beers in Elway and get his take on Orton.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:56 PM   #24
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The Duke has spoken. His word is the law. Stop analyzing things, you knew what he would say. The ultimate bronco has said he will be fine...and so it will be.
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I would like to get about 15 beers in Elway and get his take on Orton.
He would start singing the rubber band man song at beer 15 .
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