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Old 09-14-2009, 11:12 AM   #1
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Or was he inactive? He either made no plays or didnt play at all.. Im not sure..


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Old 09-14-2009, 11:13 AM   #2
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He played a lot actually. Came in on 3rd downs.
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He played. He's no Rey Maualuga, but he actually stepped on the field.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:14 AM   #4
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He was out there... Still lost.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:15 AM   #5
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Played well at the point of attach against the run. Completly lost in coverage.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:16 AM   #6
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I did see a 56 out there.
It didn't get anywhere near the ball like the old 56 did.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:19 AM   #7
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Yeah he was out there a lot more than I thought he would be. I was surprised he wasn't on the stat sheet, quite a few times I noticed him in on a play, thought he logged a couple assists. He seemed to pop into the screen just after the play was over, or to get to the QB a second late. Not wildly impressive, but hopefully as the game slows down for him, he speeds up Also they dropped him into coverage several times on 3rd downs, I was impressed they had that kind of confidence in him.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:22 AM   #8
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mayock said ayers would take 3 years. so hopefully people will be patient with this guy.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:24 AM   #9
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mayock said ayers would take 3 years. so hopefully people will be patient with this guy.
interesting....you don't draft guys that take three years to develope in the 1st round.

where did he have him ranked?
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:26 AM   #10
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He played. He's no Rey Maualuga, but he actually stepped on the field.
Isn't Maualuga a true LB and Ayers a DE/LB?

apples to oranges
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:26 AM   #11
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on a positive note, dumervil may just have a major breakout in this system.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:27 AM   #12
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He was standing there next to the WR on the catch near the goal line that they reviewed.
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interesting....you don't draft guys that take three years to develope in the 1st round.

where did he have him ranked?
Not sure. He did think that after 3 years Ayers would be the best defensive player that came out this year. So maybe he wasn't saying it would take 3 years before Ayers started to play well but that you would see up and down play for awhile.
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on a positive note, dumervil may just have a major breakout in this system.
I hope so... but I have a feeling he'll be exposed in coverage. If we can keep him playing downhill, he sure looks effective rushing the passer and defending the run.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:31 AM   #15
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interesting....you don't draft guys that take three years to develope in the 1st round.

where did he have him ranked?
Yes, yes you do. Often you do it with QBs, but other times it can be DBs, WRs or LBs.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:37 AM   #16
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mayock said ayers would take 3 years. so hopefully people will be patient with this guy.
Pittsburg is about the only team that has success with this model. Trevor Pryce is the only Bronco that comes to mind that took time to develop into a difference maker. Its seems that, historically speaking, they either make a difference immediately or they bust. For example: John Mobley, Al Wilson, Reggie Heyward, Darrent Williams, Elvis Dumervill, and so on -- all made contributions immediately.
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Yes, yes you do. Often you do it with QBs, but other times it can be DBs, WRs or LBs.
.....the broncos didn't draft Jarvis Moss thinking he'd take three years to develope nor did they draft Jay Cutler with that in mind either.

IMO you're 1st and 2nd rounders should be fighting for playing time in their 1st season
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.....the broncos didn't draft Jarvis Moss thinking he'd take three years to develope nor did they draft Jay Cutler with that in mind either.

IMO you're 1st and 2nd rounders should be fighting for playing time in their 1st season
Moss was very raw coming out of college and fans won't even give him two seasons to develop. It took Hayward 3 years to come around, Tuck I believe was 3 years as well. Both taken later in the draft. Mathias Kiwanuka took three years as well and he was picked in the first round. Some times it pays for teams to give talent the time they need to learn and become impact players. That is why I would hate to give up on Moss so early. He might not pan out but we are not really losing much by giving him a fair shot.
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Moss was very raw coming out of college and fans won't even give him two seasons to develop. It took Hayward 3 years to come around, Tuck I believe was 3 years as well. Both taken later in the draft. Mathias Kiwanuka took three years as well and he was picked in the first round. Some times it pays for teams to give talent the time they need to learn and become impact players. That is why I would hate to give up on Moss so early. He might not pan out but we are not really losing much by giving him a fair shot.
This is blatantly false. Heyward made immediate contributions as a rookie, and was the third best D-lineman on the team from the start behind Bert Berry and Trevor Pryce.
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Dude hasn't put a single hit on a ball-carrier in his career. Dude has no clue what he's doing. It's like he's wearing a blindfold out there. I'm sorry, but this guy looks like a bust. I had him pegged before the draft because of size/speed ratio as one of the top three guys along with Kruger and Barwin to make the transition to 3-4 LB from DE.

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This is blatantly false. Heyward made immediate contributions as a rookie, and was the third best D-lineman on the team from the start behind Bert Berry and Trevor Pryce.
Sorry my bad him playing in 6 games his first year with 3 sacks 18 TOT, 9 games with 0 sacks 9 TOT in his second year, then 16 games with 8.5 sacks 27 TOT his third year really threw me off.

Pryce, Keith Washington, Chester McGlockton, and Kavika Pittman all had more tackles then Hayward in 2001. Only Pittman had less sacks. Berry had more so third best DL might be a stretch.

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Dude hasn't put a single hit on a ball-carrier in his career. Dude has no clue what he's doing. It's like he's wearing a blindfold out there. I'm sorry, but this guy looks like a bust. I had him pegged before the draft because of size/speed ratio as one of the top three guys along with Kruger and Barwin to make the transition to 3-4 LB from DE.

You win some, you lose some.
This guys going to need time to develop... and don't be surprised if he finds himself eventually replacing andra Davis.
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Dude hasn't put a single hit on a ball-carrier in his career. Dude has no clue what he's doing. It's like he's wearing a blindfold out there. I'm sorry, but this guy looks like a bust. I had him pegged before the draft because of size/speed ratio as one of the top three guys along with Kruger and Barwin to make the transition to 3-4 LB from DE.

You win some, you lose some.
This.

I just don't understand what the knock on Rey Maualuga was. He certainly has the measurables, and was extremely productive throughout his career and especially in big games. How we can pass a guy like that for a project tweener is beyond me... at least Mario Haagan is stepping up and contributing.
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This guys going to need time to develop... and don't be surprised if he finds himself eventually replacing andra Davis.
Dang. I tried to delete that post.
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