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Old 09-07-2009, 01:44 PM   #1
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Default Did Denver really have to rebuild?

We had A 25 year old probowl QB, a probowl WR, a probowl caliber LT, probowl center and line that could protect, 2 soild TE's and a secnd round slot that has turned into a #1 WR.

We had exceptional drafts in 06 and 08, had them signed, a good owner, SB winngg coach, and competent Front office.

A miracle flub by Bowe and a tough 2 road games sent down the road to a series of events almost unheard of in modern dat NFL history.

7 months later Denver is compared to a expansion team.

I'm sorry tell everyone, but this them isn't going to be the second coming of the 4/3 Orange Crush of 77.

And I'm not a big fan of Nolan either.

I'm not a fan of our draft, especially taking 6 of 9 on offense and a slow RB at 11 or our FA moves. WTF? we draft a sub 300 C for straight blocking then cut?

Our draft looks horrible considering what we gave up for smith. Raideresque.

Ayers has never played LB. Neither have ANY of our OLB's

Odl and older=dumb dumber.

We needed 2 RB's and lots of fresh D, not OL, QB, TE and corners. Bly proved that.

Hell, our stars are Hillis, Larsen and Woodyard. Who knows of Torain or Powell might of done, Moreno is doing his Torain impesonation.

All I'm saying is if your going to dump Shannyan an obviously successfull rebuilding on offense, why not bring in a real Dc as HC and keep Bates?
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:46 PM   #2
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good questions...

we haven't touched on any of those issues you bring up at all this offseason...

let's vigorously discuss them at nausiam on this here shiny new thread...
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No Denver REALLY HAD TO HIRE Steve Spagnuolo
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Wouldn't that be 3 - 4 orange crush
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:49 PM   #5
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The offense was stellar even though it was very young. The defense was deplorable.

The obvious action is to not blow up the offense but I dunno I'm just some schmuck on the street.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:52 PM   #7
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You better tell Tom Jackson or Bob Swenson or Joe Rizzo or this guy;

Randy Gradishar

That they played in a 4 - 3 defense.
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Holy redundant thread batman!!
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No Denver REALLY HAD TO HIRE Steve Spagnuolo
Once Bowlen jerked, that would of been the right move.

Keeping Slowick WAS NOT Shanny's option. owner trumps gm.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:54 PM   #10
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you better tell tom jackson or bob swenson or joe rizzo or this guy;

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that they played in a 4 - 3 defense.
denver should be playing the 4/3.
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Regardless, we drafted for the 4/3.

Slowick was an idiot.

At least we are bringing pressure now.
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We had A 25 year old probowl QB, a probowl WR, a probowl caliber LT, probowl center and line that could protect, 2 soild TE's and a secnd round slot that has turned into a #1 WR.

We had exceptional drafts in 06 and 08, had them signed, a good owner, SB winngg coach, and competent Front office.

A miracle flub by Bowe and a tough 2 road games sent down the road to a series of events almost unheard of in modern dat NFL history.

7 months later Denver is compared to a expansion team.

I'm sorry tell everyone, but this them isn't going to be the second coming of the 4/3 Orange Crush of 77.

And I'm not a big fan of Nolan either.

I'm not a fan of our draft, especially taking 6 of 9 on offense and a slow RB at 11 or our FA moves. WTF? we draft a sub 300 C for straight blocking then cut?

Our draft looks horrible considering what we gave up for smith. Raideresque.

Ayers has never played LB. Neither have ANY of our OLB's

Odl and older=dumb dumber.

We needed 2 RB's and lots of fresh D, not OL, QB, TE and corners. Bly proved that.

Hell, our stars are Hillis, Larsen and Woodyard. Who knows of Torain or Powell might of done, Moreno is doing his Torain impesonation.

All I'm saying is if your going to dump Shannyan an obviously successfull rebuilding on offense, why not bring in a real Dc as HC and keep Bates?
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Well the answer is very simple... HELL NO.. You would be crazy to dismantle an offense that has a young all pro Tackles, veteran center, 25 pro bowl quarterback with a cannon for an arm, a 6-4 230 pro bowl wide out and lightning quick #2 receiver, and one of the best young receiving tight ends in the league... Now look at our offense we shipped out our franchise QB for an average at best QB, a nickel back (and they will probably release champ bailey because of him) and Vernon Ghoston, our pro bowl receiver going through the motions until next year when he's gone, almost traded away the tight end, and base on changing systems from zone blocking quick linemen to big power blockers our all pro tackles might be gone as well. It's pretty sad when you think about it. All we really needed was a new defense. Just think last year we were talking about challenging for the super bowl and we are debating about if we are going to break even...
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Seriously...the 2.5 million other threads about this topic haven't been enough?

Considering how this team has looked thus far, think again.


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good questions...

we haven't touched on any of those issues you bring up at all this offseason...

let's vigorously discuss them at nausiam on this here shiny new thread...
you dont get to 75,000 posts without making 1 or 2 thousand bad ones, give the guy a break.
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Let's see, if I can count correctly - when Kuper and Hamilton come back from injuries we'll have 9 of 11 offensive starters back.

Yep - blew it up.
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Let's see, if I can count correctly - when Kuper and Hamilton come back from injuries we'll have 9 of 11 offensive starters back.

Yep - blew it up.
And one of the replacements is the best running back Denver has seen since TD.
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Let's see, if I can count correctly - when Kuper and Hamilton come back from injuries we'll have 9 of 11 offensive starters back.

Yep - blew it up.

except the 2 probowlers, and our franchise back OUT.

Yep, the offense was set. LAST YEAR. This year, they would of had a second or 4th year together.

The problem was DEFENSE.
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:14 PM   #23
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And one of the replacements is the best running back Denver has seen since TD.
How'd our 7th do this year?

He was on IR the last 4 weeks.
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No the problem was a team with No Heart

3 to go and 3 up and still lose division =" Need a change at the top"
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How'd our 7th do this year?

He was on IR the last 4 weeks.
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