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Old 09-07-2009, 08:05 AM   #1
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Default Clayton predicts we go 3-13

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/previe...ohn&id=4446985

Time to prove this hobbit wrong.

If someone could do a photo of a wing wraith in broncos gear smacking a fleeing John Clayton I'd much appreciate it.
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:14 AM   #2
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Just saw it. He said we look like an expansion team
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:23 AM   #3
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He said last week the defense could be worse than last season. That alone leads me to believe he hasn't seen a lick of this team in the preseason.
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Clayton is much better at 'insider' gossip than evaluation.

In fact, most ESPN hacks are no better than the clowns at SI.
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:30 AM   #5
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clayton has so much experience playing the game and evaluating talent. he's a real stud. just reeks of athletic ability
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Well, yeah. He's being nice.
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He even has McDaniels on the coaching "hotseat".

I guess Shanahan's inability to get the Broncos in the playoffs over the past several years and more signifcantly last year didn't qualify for the "hotseat".
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Here's my biggest problem with all these guys - they always pick the obvious favourites and then are never accountable when they spend extra effort ****ting on a team that ends up doing well.

There is no accountability in sports journalism.
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Just saw it. He said we look like an expansion team
Guess we'll see. That kind of statement almost betrays a disdain for our team on John's part as opposed to him thinking we simply aren't very good.

From what I've seen the defense certainly doesn't look worse and if the offense takes a dip it certainly isn't going to be to expansion team levels. Would even the more skeptical fans here agree with me on this? There's a difference (in my mind) between a rebuilding team with some problems and "expansion team" ineptness on the field, and I just haven't seen any signs of the later during the preseason.

Maybe he really believes we are that bad, maybe it's media sensationalism. Either way there's nothing wrong with a little extra motivation for the team, though.
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ROFL @ the responses to this thread.


When somebody disses the Broncos, they're "know nothing clowns" or "hacks" or whatever insult you can come up with.

When somebody praises the Broncos (or bashes the Raiders/Chiefs/Chargers), you people can't post the links here fast enough.

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ROFL @ the responses to this thread.


When somebody disses the Broncos, they're "know nothing clowns" or "hacks" or whatever insult you can come up with.

When somebody praises the Broncos (or bashes the Raiders/Chiefs/Chargers), you people can't post the links here fast enough.

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It's almost like people on this message board are fans of the team.

Weird.
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:48 AM   #13
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I hate John Clayton. He is a di#k. He said something negative about the broncos. I would think he was the greatest if he said Denver was going to go 13-3. How come everytime on ESPN says something negative posters get their panties in a bunch?
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:48 AM   #14
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Im fairly certain no one has ever claimed John Clayton on this board to be a genius.
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He sure nailed that Shanny to KC rumor......done deal.
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My question is when have any of these so-called "experts" been right? I mean most of them had the Chargers winning it all last season because they almost beat the Pats in AFC title game the previous season without LT and Rivers playing on one leg.

I recall a player when asked what a 2-0 start meant for his team...his reply was "Well, that means we'll finish somewhere between 2-14....and 16-0"

If Clayton knew what the hell he was talking about....why would they play the season. Just hand the Lombardi to whomever they feel is deserving.
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ROFL @ the responses to this thread.


When somebody disses the Broncos, they're "know nothing clowns" or "hacks" or whatever insult you can come up with.

When somebody praises the Broncos (or bashes the Raiders/Chiefs/Chargers), you people can't post the links here fast enough.

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OK...so when have they been right about us...or any other team dude?

You do realize last season Clayton thought the Lions were gonna contend for their division title because of the following reasons -

[] they went 4-0 in pre-season

[] Favre retired and unproven Aaron Rodgers was their QB.

[] Vikings had unsettled QB situation between journeyman Frerotte and unproven Tavarias Jackson.

[] Bears defense was getting older and they too had unstable QB situation with Grossman-Orton duel

Look people in the media love to say they were right....when the truth be told....they rarely are.
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My question is when have any of these so-called "experts" been right? I mean most of them had the Chargers winning it all last season because they almost beat the Pats in AFC title game the previous season without LT and Rivers playing on one leg.

I recall a player when asked what a 2-0 start meant for his team...his reply was "Well, that means we'll finish somewhere between 2-14....and 16-0"

If Clayton knew what the hell he was talking about....why would they play the season. Just hand the Lombardi to whomever they feel is deserving.
This is really my issue. Football is a hard game to predict (as are most sports) but the way they jump on several teams bandwagons and collectively decide to **** on others is just silly. When the "top" teams fail to perform and others do well, these guys just move on and act as if everyone's had their memories erased. They are never held accountable for bad picks. If their reputation was actually at stake, maybe they'd watch the games a bit more closely. If it's going to be opinion at all times, take a risk once in a while when you're making picks. This doesn't just have to do with the Broncos.

This begs the question... what would the league be like without all the commentary and ESPN "analysis"? I'd bet people would have to start studying at games for themselves and the picture they'd paint would be quite different.
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It's almost like people on this message board are fans of the team.

Weird.
Yeah...imagine that...Bronco fans upset about bad things being said about the Broncos.
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Just saw it. He said we look like an expansion team
Expected the worst to come and i'm not kidding..........
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:04 AM   #22
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It's no surprise that people here don't agree with it, but most non Bronco fans would totally agree with it.

Think about it like this, if Clayton said last year that he thought the Lions would go 3 and 13, Lion fans would be pissed and lash out against him. That's just being a fan.

Clayton surely isn't the only one predicting that the Broncos will suck ass.
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It's not like Clayton is out to lunch with that prediction. New head coach, new DC, new defense, no new significant defensive additions, lost our best player and franchise QB, #1 WR having issues, OL all of a sudden looks vunerable, DL is still horrible, Orton has been horrific in pre-season, Moreno is injured, front office has made questionable decision after questionable decision...this team is in a huge state of flux atm, and that doesn't usually translate into winning.

It's going to be a very long season.
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It's not like Clayton is out to lunch with that prediction. New head coach, new DC, new defense, no new significant defensive additions, lost our best player and franchise QB, #1 WR having issues, OL all of a sudden looks vunerable, DL is still horrible, Orton has been horrific in pre-season, Moreno is injured, front office has made questionable decision after questionable decision...this team is in a huge state of flux atm, and that doesn't usually translate into winning.

It's going to be a very long season.
Man oh man all that sucks so much cock and yet its all true,I really can't believe the epic fail this team has been threw
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:15 AM   #25
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For everybody questioning Clayton, should these "insiders" stop making predictions? Is it really that serious? It's not like these predictions really mean anything. It's just part of their job. Their job is to tell us what they think. Nobody wants to solely hear or read about the who, where, what, when and why. That can get boring. These guys are supposed to give us something to talk about. Something to argue about. Clayton is just doing his job. So what's the big deal?
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