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Old 09-06-2009, 07:49 AM   #1
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Default Seymour to the Raiders for 1st

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Richard Seymour to the Raider for First - source ESPN NEWS

EDIT first is 2011

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Old 09-06-2009, 07:52 AM   #2
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That is a great deal for the Patriots, if this is for real.
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:53 AM   #3
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That is a great deal for the Patriots, if this is for real.
Adam reporting it so, it not like its a "Deal is done (DiD)" story
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ESPN.com news services
New England Patriots defensive lineman Richard Seymour has been dealt to the Oakland Raiders, NFL sources told ESPN.


In return, the Patriots get a 2011 first-round draft pick, a source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.


Seymour, 29, spent the first eight years of NFL career with New England. In that time, he amassed 357 total tackles and 39 sacks.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4450767
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:55 AM   #5
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Damn the Pats continue to pull off shockingly one sided deals, that likely will be a top 10 pick in a very strong draft. Got to admire the way that organization is run assuming this trade story is true.
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:55 AM   #6
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New England Patriots defensive lineman Richard Seymour has been dealt to the Oakland Raiders, NFL sources told ESPN.


In return, the Patriots get a 2011 first-round draft pick, a source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.


Seymour, 29, spent the first eight years of NFL career with New England. In that time, he amassed 357 total tackles and 39 sacks.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4450767
So this is a first in 2011. Not next year, but the year after. Interesting. I guess Ron Brace will fill a role.
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:56 AM   #7
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That should be a top 5 pick for the Pats.
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:56 AM   #8
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No other site is reporting this. The only person is Shefter's twitter! If this is true I think Belichek is starting to lose it. With the constant QB's cuts, trading TE's and now his best defensive player.
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So this is a first in 2011. Not next year, but the year after. Interesting. I guess Ron Brace will fill a role.
But it gives chances to move up in the upcoming draft by packaging that future pick. It would suck if they end with Dunlap out of UF
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:59 AM   #10
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Jeez the Raiders are Fing lost ... and first for a "old" guy ... yea he's is only 30 but come on ...
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No other site is reporting this. The only person is Shefter's twitter! If this is true I think Belichek is starting to lose it. With the constant QB's cuts, trading TE's and now his best defensive player.
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I think it is a great move by NE, you trade a guy for more than top value. Only thing is that NE must be sure of the DE talent behind him, because if they are not they will not be able to stop the run very well this year.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:02 AM   #13
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Also....NE has lost almost all of their Super Bowl Vet leadership on D over 1 season. Bruscki(can't spell) Seymour, Harrison.
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If it's true, I'm curious if Seymore does well in Oakland where careers die.
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No other site is reporting this. The only person is Shefter's twitter! If this is true I think Belichek is starting to lose it. With the constant QB's cuts, trading TE's and now his best defensive player.
What he does is trade a great player at the top of his value one season before that value falls off greatly so the trading partner gets one or two good seasons (plus big contract) and the Pats get a very high draft pick and if they hit on the pick they get a very good player for 4 of 5 seasons on a rookie contract. Why do you think they win so much, they "know when to hold um and know when to fold um" as they say.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:26 AM   #16
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I wonder if the GM from NE would have traded a 1st for Alphonso Smith. I highly doubt it. Anyways, this is another smart move for NE. They obviously feel confident in their depth. Seymour is nearly 30 and will most likely be seeking big dollars in the next few. Un load him now at his peak and get what you can.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:31 AM   #17
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The Raiders are gonna be so screwed for so long ... this doesn't help.

This kind of deal should be made only by a team that's very close.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:34 AM   #18
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The Raiders are gonna be so screwed for so long ... this doesn't help.

This kind of deal should be made only by a team that's very close.
There should be an NFL rule that prohibits taking advantage of the senile in team trades.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:36 AM   #19
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Belichick is smart. He's always been somewhat averse to 1st rounders, but in 2011 there will be a new CBA, and thus, a rookie wage scale.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:37 AM   #20
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Okay, remember when we traded next year's first for a second this year? My immediate reaction was "YES!" because it meant that we were going to trade for a nose tackle.

Instead, we got Chris Baker as a UDFA. He might still step
up, but if we were going to trade a 1st, wouldn't it have been wise to get someone who could have made a impact immediately?
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RE: Post 18 - You could it the "dangling a shinny object rule"
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There should be an NFL rule that prohibits taking advantage of the senile in team trades.
True but funny Ha Ha Ha
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What he does is trade a great player at the top of his value one season before that value falls off greatly so the trading partner gets one or two good seasons (plus big contract) and the Pats get a very high draft pick and if they hit on the pick they get a very good player for 4 of 5 seasons on a rookie contract. Why do you think they win so much, they "know when to hold um and know when to fold um" as they say.
the pats don't draft as well as you think.
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wow, that is a fantastic deal for the Pats. shed his salary and pick up a top 10 or better 1st rounder. you still have Warren and etc along that DL so you don't lose much.
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the pats don't draft as well as you think.
True and a good thing too can you imagine if the drafted like Pitts of the Chargers.
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