Taking the forum's temperature: Optimistic or Pessimistic? - The Orange Mane

Popps · 09-01-2009, 02:12 PM

So, we've played all of our meaningful pre-season games. We've seen some good, some bad, some injuries and at least a tiny bit of evidence of where this team may be headed going forward.

After one of the most polarized off-seasons in memory... where do you stand?

Poll coming...

TheReverend · 09-01-2009, 02:13 PM

Make public, please

azbroncfan · 09-01-2009, 02:13 PM

I was optimistic but now after watching the preseason I have a bad feeling about the direction this football team is going and wonder how they are going to land a QBOTF.

Beantown Bronco · 09-01-2009, 02:14 PM

Once again, realist won't be an option.

Popps · 09-01-2009, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Once again, realist won't be an option.

I think you can be realistic with these options. But, this is definitely designed to see where people are. So, "I don't know" or "I don't care" isn't so much what I'm curious to find out.

None of us has a crystal ball, but this is a gut-feel thing...

bronco militia · 09-01-2009, 02:15 PM

I thinkthis team is in trouble until the next regime

PRBronco · 09-01-2009, 02:16 PM

I'm excited man. Orton looks a bit shaky, I hope he finds his confidence. But I'm excited for what looks to be a good running game, and if BM pulls his head out of his ass, a very good offense in general. I also like the solid if unspectacular veteran defense, they'll give us a chance to win some games.

*edit* I'm even excited for the pee yellow jerseys.

Crushaholic · 09-01-2009, 02:16 PM

Every team goes through growing pains. It's the way it is and we'll be back dominating the football world in no time...

bowtown · 09-01-2009, 02:18 PM

I'm not entirely sure that we are set back for decades as some would like us to believe, but suffice to say I am very concerned about the shape we are in.

Los Broncos · 09-01-2009, 02:19 PM

Everythings going to be alright.

Florida_Bronco · 09-01-2009, 02:21 PM

Optimistic.

cutthemdown · 09-01-2009, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Once again, realist won't be an option.

people always see there views as realistic. If your reality is to feel the Broncos screwed up bad and won't recover then that view seems reasonable to you.

Doesn't mean your not a pessimist though. That is more your outlook on life. Either you think things will work out or you don't. It speaks more to what type of personality you have then anything else.

cutthemdown · 09-01-2009, 02:26 PM

football goes more in 5 yr cycles then 10 yr. Chances are last yr and this yr were spent finding some new talent. Hopefully that continues next couple yrs. By then Shannahans bad decisions might be overcame.

Probably way sooner had the team and Cutler not figures out a way to screw the fans in big way.

Even though I say I like Mcdaniels and think Cutler a baby, I still totally understand why people having a tough time staying positive.

It ****ing stinks we lost our QB. Doesn't matter what you get back QB is like the queen in Chess.

TheReverend · 09-01-2009, 02:27 PM

I DO think the poll options are unclear.

The original caveat is "Okay we're headed into the season!" and then the optimistic option is "It may take time"

So what is it... this season? a couple years? long term? I mean, if you look long enough, of course we're headed for good things...

baja · 09-01-2009, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Taking the forum's temperature:

Before I vote would that be orally or rectally?

Dr. Broncenstein · 09-01-2009, 02:29 PM

I hope I'm wrong... and I'm going to watch and root for my team.. but my gut feeling is that we're in for a painful 2-3 years. I wonder if McDaniels will be given a long enough leash. Again, my gut feeling is probably not.

baja · 09-01-2009, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Taking the forum's temperature:

Before I vote would that be orally or rectally?

lex · 09-01-2009, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReverend

I DO think the poll options are unclear.

The original caveat is "Okay we're headed into the season!" and then the optimistic option is "It may take time"

So what is it... this season? a couple years? long term? I mean, if you look long enough, of course we're headed for good things...

Popps just loves McDaniels no matter what to such an extent that he has said he would find a 4-12 season blissful since he believes in McDaniels so much that he could kiss him.

broncosteven · 09-01-2009, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Once again, realist won't be an option.

I would prefer a rebuilding year Option.

It is too early to vote, I would like to see some performance when games are on the line and the argument that they are "holding things back for RS" can no longer be applied.

I am going to try to give the new regime until week 4-6 or later before I decide if all this change was a total cluster ****.

I don't expect wins, I just want to see good things happening, kinda like the 95 season.

McMastermind · 09-01-2009, 02:33 PM

Optimistic....I don't even think it will be "rocky at times".

Loving the fact that all the SCE's have Denver imploding and some even finishing in the basement of the AFCW.

The 3 opening turnovers in SF were a little disconcerting but I'm also liking that they went vanilla all the way and are 0-3. That's what you are supposed to do in preseason. I give McD alot of credit for not being tempted to show his cards in the Bears game especially given all the hype. He could've taken the easy route just to get a meaningless win but showed alot of maturity by keeping things vanilla on offense.

Defense looks much improved also but of course that is against other teams plain Jane offenses. At any rate, it's safe to say that Denver will allow fewer PPG this year under Nolan.

GO BRONCOS!

Tombstone RJ · 09-01-2009, 02:38 PM

I hope McD learns from his mistakes and keeps his intensity and love of the game up and going. I think he could be and will be a great coach but this season will be his hardest test ever.

Even if the Broncos go 4-12 I doubt he'll get fired. He needs at least one more year before Bowlen makes another radical change to replace him.

If the team shows emprovement with each and every game, then Bowlen will keep the kid around...

kamakazi_kal · 09-01-2009, 02:41 PM

I can't vote yet..... we still have too much time before the first game .....
What happens with Marshall and all that.

lazarus4444 · 09-01-2009, 02:41 PM

I am optimistic but i think the mood of most of the board, or at least a vocal minority, are greatly pessimistic. This is the first year of our transformation to the borg, victories will be coming in big numbers soon.

SonOfLe-loLang · 09-01-2009, 02:43 PM

I think things will be alright, but will take time. More time than some people would like, but ithink we should stay the course

broncosteven · 09-01-2009, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I hope McD learns from his mistakes and keeps his intensity and love of the game up and going. I think he could be and will be a great coach but this season will be his hardest test ever.

Even if the Broncos go 4-12 I doubt he'll get fired. He needs at least one more year before Bowlen makes another radical change to replace him.

If the team shows emprovement with each and every game, then Bowlen will keep the kid around...

I doubt we see anything electric out of him until later in the year. It will take some getting used to dealing with the flow of the season. He has never been totally responsible for the team before this season is going to be a learning year.

I can deal with it if he shows flashes.

So far I haven't seen any flashes but it is PS.

View Poll Results: We're headed into the season. Where do you stand?
It may be rocky and take time, but this franchise is headed for good things.	85	70.83%
This franchise has made mistakes it won't recover from, and it's downhill from here.	35	29.17%
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09-01-2009, 02:12 PM	#1
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,792	Taking the forum's temperature: Optimistic or Pessimistic? So, we've played all of our meaningful pre-season games. We've seen some good, some bad, some injuries and at least a tiny bit of evidence of where this team may be headed going forward. After one of the most polarized off-seasons in memory... where do you stand? Poll coming...

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09-01-2009, 02:13 PM	#2
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ "not an athlete" Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,348 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	Make public, please

09-01-2009, 02:13 PM	#3
azbroncfan Ring of Famer Angry guntoting,meateating AMERICAN Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Scottsdale Posts: 8,669 Adopt-a-Bronco: TEBOW	I was optimistic but now after watching the preseason I have a bad feeling about the direction this football team is going and wonder how they are going to land a QBOTF.

09-01-2009, 02:14 PM	#4
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,111 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	Once again, realist won't be an option.

09-01-2009, 02:15 PM	#6
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,704	I thinkthis team is in trouble until the next regime

09-01-2009, 02:16 PM	#7
PRBronco FML less Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Vancouver Posts: 4,206 Adopt-a-Bronco: I'm so alone	I'm excited man. Orton looks a bit shaky, I hope he finds his confidence. But I'm excited for what looks to be a good running game, and if BM pulls his head out of his ass, a very good offense in general. I also like the solid if unspectacular veteran defense, they'll give us a chance to win some games. edit I'm even excited for the pee yellow jerseys.

09-01-2009, 02:16 PM	#8
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,076	Every team goes through growing pains. It's the way it is and we'll be back dominating the football world in no time...

09-01-2009, 02:18 PM	#9
bowtown Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,355 Adopt-a-Bronco: Aaron Brewer	I'm not entirely sure that we are set back for decades as some would like us to believe, but suffice to say I am very concerned about the shape we are in.

09-01-2009, 02:19 PM	#10
Los Broncos Flaw Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 18,803 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	Everythings going to be alright.

09-01-2009, 02:21 PM	#11
Florida_Bronco Got trolls? Welcome to Mile High, Brady! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 13,810 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brady Quinn	Optimistic.

09-01-2009, 02:26 PM	#13
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,875	football goes more in 5 yr cycles then 10 yr. Chances are last yr and this yr were spent finding some new talent. Hopefully that continues next couple yrs. By then Shannahans bad decisions might be overcame. Probably way sooner had the team and Cutler not figures out a way to screw the fans in big way. Even though I say I like Mcdaniels and think Cutler a baby, I still totally understand why people having a tough time staying positive. It ****ing stinks we lost our QB. Doesn't matter what you get back QB is like the queen in Chess.

09-01-2009, 02:27 PM	#14
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ "not an athlete" Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,348 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	I DO think the poll options are unclear. The original caveat is "Okay we're headed into the season!" and then the optimistic option is "It may take time" So what is it... this season? a couple years? long term? I mean, if you look long enough, of course we're headed for good things...

09-01-2009, 02:29 PM	#16
Dr. Broncenstein Oldeskool Homeskool Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sterile Fields Posts: 11,848 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	I hope I'm wrong... and I'm going to watch and root for my team.. but my gut feeling is that we're in for a painful 2-3 years. I wonder if McDaniels will be given a long enough leash. Again, my gut feeling is probably not.

09-01-2009, 02:33 PM	#20
McMastermind Rookie New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 66 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Optimistic....I don't even think it will be "rocky at times". Loving the fact that all the SCE's have Denver imploding and some even finishing in the basement of the AFCW. The 3 opening turnovers in SF were a little disconcerting but I'm also liking that they went vanilla all the way and are 0-3. That's what you are supposed to do in preseason. I give McD alot of credit for not being tempted to show his cards in the Bears game especially given all the hype. He could've taken the easy route just to get a meaningless win but showed alot of maturity by keeping things vanilla on offense. Defense looks much improved also but of course that is against other teams plain Jane offenses. At any rate, it's safe to say that Denver will allow fewer PPG this year under Nolan. GO BRONCOS!

09-01-2009, 02:38 PM	#21
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,520 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	I hope McD learns from his mistakes and keeps his intensity and love of the game up and going. I think he could be and will be a great coach but this season will be his hardest test ever. Even if the Broncos go 4-12 I doubt he'll get fired. He needs at least one more year before Bowlen makes another radical change to replace him. If the team shows emprovement with each and every game, then Bowlen will keep the kid around...

09-01-2009, 02:41 PM	#22
kamakazi_kal I have a Teb0ner. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,165 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mayhem Miller	I can't vote yet..... we still have too much time before the first game ..... What happens with Marshall and all that.

09-01-2009, 02:41 PM	#23
lazarus4444 Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 1,240 Adopt-a-Bronco: Coach McDaniels	I am optimistic but i think the mood of most of the board, or at least a vocal minority, are greatly pessimistic. This is the first year of our transformation to the borg, victories will be coming in big numbers soon.

09-01-2009, 02:43 PM	#24
SonOfLe-loLang Young Buck Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 13,414 Adopt-a-Bronco: Thunder (RIP)	I think things will be alright, but will take time. More time than some people would like, but ithink we should stay the course