Dammit obama!

[Rigs11]

I thought you were going to be bipartisan. All you are is a leftist socialist partisan hack. Oh wait...

Bush nominees in top Obama posts
Bernanke, Gates, LaHood, Huntsman all given White House gigs


WASHINGTON - For all the Republican howling about Barack Obama radically steering the government to the left and leading the nation toward socialism, some of his major appointments are Republican men and women of the middle.

In what may be the top two national posts in light of today's crises at home and abroad, Obama stuck with the picks of former President George W. Bush in reappointing Fed chief Ben Bernanke and Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

Bernanke last week was given another four-year term to preside over nothing less than saving the U.S. economy and then keeping it strong. He was appointed by Bush in 2006 after a short stint as chairman of Bush's Council of Economic Advisers. Gates was kept in his Pentagon post to wind down the war in Iraq and build up the one in Afghanistan.

The notion that he is moving the government to the left "is laughable, it's utterly laughable," said Thomas E. Mann, a government scholar at the Brookings Institution. Mann said the decision to keep Bernanke and Gates "doesn't buy him a thing with Republicans but was a sign of good judgment in both cases" because Bernanke and Gates were doing good jobs.
Along with Gates and Bernanke, they include:

Sheila Bair as holdover chairwoman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. She has played a major role in the management of the financial crisis. A one-time unsuccessful candidate for a Kansas House of Representatives seat, Bair was appointed by Bush in June 2006. Forbes Magazine ranks her as the second most powerful woman in the world behind German chancellor Angela Merkel.
Ray LaHood, a former congressman from Illinois, as transportation secretary. He was elected as part of the "Gingrich Revolution" by Republicans in 1994's elections and was so trusted by both Republicans and Democrats that he was selected to preside over the House during the impeachment vote against President Bill Clinton.
Former Rep. John McHugh from upstate New York, as Army secretary. McHugh was known by his House colleagues for an even temperament and willingness to work with Democrats.
Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, who was a Mormon missionary in China in his youth, as ambassador to China.
Francis Collins, an evangelical Christian, as director of the National Institutes of Health.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32626752...s-white_house/

[cutthemdown]

we will see how Obama feels when Gates has his generals ask for another 20 thousand to 40 thousand troops to win the fight in Afghanistan. Already military mumbling that elements in Obamas admin are whispering and balking at the war.

How will people feel if Obama says this is a war we need to fight, then when his first wave of troops not enough decides to give up?

Or how will you feel if he sends the 20 thousand plus new troops and casualties get really high? Will Obama's base support him in this war?

[cutthemdown]

As far as bernake goes Clinton and Bush both used Greenspan, its not uncommon.

Paulson tarp thingy actually making money on some banks. Depending on how many don't pay back it could be significantly less then the 7 billion he spent on it. Really good news for Obama that Bush bailout working.

[Smiling Assassin27]

...or when Republicans ask to have some input into a 787 billion dollar stimlu...er, wait. Obama's already told Republicans and Independents to STFU on health care reform. Really, it's a double edged sword. The guy has kept great numbers of Bush appointees AND policies, yet still gets his nuts massaged here regularly. Then, someone posts something foolish and irrelevant to the point he wants to make, by ignoring what has transpired legislatively under Obama's watchful influence. Clever but...fail.

[Rohirrim]

In other words, the Left got him elected, and now he's ****ting on them. Our two party system seems to have devolved into a giant, stagnated, centrist monolithic system.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

...or when Republicans ask to have some input into a 787 billion dollar stimlu...er, wait. Obama's already told Republicans and Independents to STFU on health care reform. Really, it's a double edged sword. The guy has kept great numbers of Bush appointees AND policies, yet still gets his nuts massaged here regularly. Then, someone posts something foolish and irrelevant to the point he wants to make, by ignoring what has transpired legislatively under Obama's watchful influence. Clever but...fail.

Obama told who to STFU on health care? You're kidding, right? His own party is starting to attack him because he won't give up on his bipartisan fantasies.

[Rigs11]

ah yes...as usual the party of no comes out with their 'what if' argument.truly pathetic

[Rigs11]

Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

...or when Republicans ask to have some input into a 787 billion dollar stimlu...er, wait. Obama's already told Republicans and Independents to STFU on health care reform. Really, it's a double edged sword. The guy has kept great numbers of Bush appointees AND policies, yet still gets his nuts massaged here regularly. Then, someone posts something foolish and irrelevant to the point he wants to make, by ignoring what has transpired legislatively under Obama's watchful influence. Clever but...fail.

what input? what did the rightards offer other than to do nothing about the economy?

[cutthemdown]

no takers on what you want Obama to do in Afghanistan? Listen to generals or call the thing off and come home?

Have a friggin stance before your man makes up his mind lefties.

I say send another 40 thousand and lets finish it like we did Iraq.

[Rigs11]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

no takers on what you want Obama to do in Afghanistan? Listen to generals or call the thing off and come home?

Have a friggin stance before your man makes up his mind lefties.

I say send another 40 thousand and lets finish it like we did Iraq.

what does this have to do with the topic of the thread? You have a "what happens when" argument. Try to live in the now for once. The now is when rightards scream about bipartisnship, and offer no solutions, create fear, and never once acknowledge that obama has repubs as part of his team.

[TexanBob]

Window dressing. Just like Bill Cohen was for Clinton.

Just like Bush had more minorities in his cabinet than Obama and gets no credit for it. Democrats always promise a cabinet that "looks like America" and wind up with one that looks like the Knesset.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by Rigs11

what does this have to do with the topic of the thread? You have a "what happens when" argument. Try to live in the now for once. The now is when rightards scream about bipartisnship, and offer no solutions, create fear, and never once acknowledge that obama has repubs as part of his team.

because the article stated that because Obama kept Gates, that shows he isn't left. But the real test is will he listen to gates and send more troops to war in afghanistan.

IMO its on topic because Gates and his generals just asked Obama for more troops.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by Rigs11

what input? what did the rightards offer other than to do nothing about the economy?

Right came up with TARP and passed it. Now that is being paid back, saved a ton of banks, and will make a lot of the 7 billion back.

Obamas trillion stimulus, while that is just a giveaway that hasn't even created jobs. Just gave money out in a pork giveaway.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Sigh...I think Obama is basically a very smart dude trying to lead a nation of blockheads. We're so steeped in the momentum of our own ignorance, bigotry, lack of awareness about the world, dissasociation from the larger global trends around us, etc...90% of the people have no idea what's even going on in the world, let alone what to do about it. We've got a president who is aware...a combination that leads to rampant igorance and suspicion. It's like showing television to a cave man.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

Sigh...I think Obama is basically a very smart dude trying to lead a nation of blockheads. We're so steeped in the momentum of our own ignorance, bigotry, lack of awareness about the world, dissasociation from the larger global trends around us, etc...90% of the people have no idea what's even going on in the world, let alone what to do about it. We've got a president who is aware...a combination that leads to rampant igorance and suspicion. It's like showing television to a cave man.

If he's so smart then why doesn't he just write the healthcare legislation based whats best for country. Then give it congress and tell them to pass it. Fight for it and tell Americans why it will work. All he's doing is letting little soundbites out on what he wants, or would accept, then blames congress for not reforming healthcare. If it's so easy and he knows what to do why not just write his own bill.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

If he's so smart then why doesn't he just write the healthcare legislation based whats best for country. Then give it congress and tell them to pass it. Fight for it and tell Americans why it will work. All he's doing is letting little soundbites out on what he wants, or would accept, then blames congress for not reforming healthcare. If it's so easy and he knows what to do why not just write his own bill.

Thanks for making my point.

[Rigs11]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Right came up with TARP and passed it. Now that is being paid back, saved a ton of banks, and will make a lot of the 7 billion back.

Obamas trillion stimulus, while that is just a giveaway that hasn't even created jobs. Just gave money out in a pork giveaway.

the majority of the repubs voted against tarp, then they voted against releasing the funds.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/03/news...ion=2008100309

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by Rigs11

the majority of the repubs voted against tarp, then they voted against releasing the funds.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/03/news...ion=2008100309

It was Bush and Paulsons baby though. He did what a good President does, you write it, then force it down Congresses throat getting whatever votes you can.

What you don't do IMO is just tell them to write the bill, then not come out and say exactly what you want in the bill, then call out the other party and blame them for not reforming health care.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

Thanks for making my point.

oh what so because I disagree with you I am ignorant and no nothing about what's going on in the world? What point exactly do you think I made for you?

You're a joke.

[mhgaffney]

What makes you think Obama is a leftist?

He surrendered to Wall Street and is waging two wars on their behalf.

We in the USA have never had a leftist president -- at any rate -- not since Thomas Jefferson.

[mhgaffney]

Obama's only chance to turn things around and save his presidency would be to reverse himself -- by firing T Geithner, and all of the other high officials at Treasury, then appoint a new slate of Treasury officials committed to the US Constitution.

He would then announce his support for legislation to cancel the federal reserve act of 1913 --

As soon as he moves this reform through Congress and signs the bill Obama would then give the order for the Treasury Department to print greenbacks.

Obama would also push through a revised version of the 1935 Glass-Steagall Act to end the wild speculation and hedge fund and derivative ponzi schemes that have destroyed the US financial system.

This would bring an end to the era of the Banksters.

Then Obama would move rapidly to return to the gold standard --

Obama would also declare the wars over and bring the US troops home -- slash the obscene Pentagon budget -- (it's now what? $700+ billion)

and return this nation to rule by law -- meaning the US Constitution.

Of course, the CIA would try to kill Obama -- but if the people of this country take to the streets in the millions to support him -- we could actually win.

Will it happen?
MHG

[footstepsfrom#27]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

oh what so because I disagree with you I am ignorant and no nothing about what's going on in the world? What point exactly do you think I made for you?

You're a joke.

A careful reading of the two prior posts should make it obvious. If not, the joke is on you.

[Spider]

First off , to some of the bedwetters here , it is a damn good thing it doesnt take intelligence to get hard on , if it did , you silly bastards would never get laid .........


Now on to this crap ........

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

no takers on what you want Obama to do in Afghanistan? Listen to generals or call the thing off and come home?

Have a friggin stance before your man makes up his mind lefties.

I say send another 40 thousand and lets finish it like we did Iraq.

you mean do what Bush didnt do .......... Simple as that .... stop taking the long way around the barn ....... Do I want Obama to finish what Bush jr didnt have the balls to do ? of course , dumb ass question