Dumvervil and the Dl-line - The Orange Mane

Popps · 08-30-2009, 07:23 PM

What a night for Dumervil. Is this guy quickly becoming the heart of our defense, or what?

Some of us talked a week ago about how easily he's made the transition to OLB. In fact, there was a nice contingent here before the season started that thought this system might suit him better. He's got to be accounted for on every play. Clearly, he's going to be a much bigger force for us than lined up in a 3-4 trying to push against a 350 LT on every single play.

The D-line also seems to be more than holding their own. Peterson continues to be active against the run, and had a batted pass tonight.

Reid had some nice pressure and while he didn't do much, I saw Ayers out there late in the 2nd quarter. Imagine if he starts contributing.

I love the way this front seven looks so far. There are still issues, but we look much more like a real defense should out there.

Anything you guys noticed from the first/second team guys?

spdirty · 08-30-2009, 07:25 PM

Doom looked damn good.

sirhcyennek81 · 08-30-2009, 07:26 PM

Getting penetration on running downs with 3 linemen. Thats amazing to me.

Rabb · 08-30-2009, 07:28 PM

I agree with everything you said, I was thinking the entire game how great Doom looked. Overall I am very happy with the defense right now.

My only concern is that there still seems to be too much of an issue with open receivers over the middle.

I know this is about the line but how great was it to watch Dawkins blast that WR to force an incompletion?

Popps · 08-30-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

Getting penetration on running downs with 3 linemen. Thats amazing to me.

Makes all the difference in the world. I also noticed a couple of linemen dropping back into coverage nicely. Didn't get the numbers. Going to watch the first half again tonight.

Davis looks just like I thought he would... very stout against the run and a bit of a liability against the pass, but I think he's worth the trade-off.

Chris · 08-30-2009, 07:28 PM

Doom has been getting pressure on nearly every play. It's nuts. Goodman looks good too.

GreatBronco16 · 08-30-2009, 07:28 PM

Is it odd that I'm seeing so much improvement with the defense, but the offense just looks stale? I'm really not liking the play calling for the offense, but maybe he is holding back till the season starts.

Or is not having Marshall really hurting us?

sirhcyennek81 · 08-30-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

Makes all the difference in the world. I also noticed a couple of linemen dropping back into coverage nicely. Didn't get the numbers. Going to watch the first half again tonight.

Davis looks just like I thought he would... very stout against the run and a bit of a liability against the pass, but I think he's worth the trade-off.

Baker took Kreutz out to the woodshed a few times. A probowl- all pro center getting beat like a b**** by an undrafted rookie DT.

Rabb · 08-30-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

Doom has been getting pressure on nearly every play. It's nuts. Goodman looks good too.

He had a pick for sure, I think Goodman is going to be solid as hell

Dudeskey · 08-30-2009, 07:33 PM

I'm liking this new-look d so far. Doom was a lot of fun to watch tonight against Pace. Although I thought the refs should've called holding on him on several occasions.

Pseudofool · 08-30-2009, 07:35 PM

Defense looked quite good I thought. There seemed to be constant pressure and good tackling (save that miss by Dwill). Had a lot of trouble with medium range passes on that long drive, but hte penalty by Doom didn't help. The hyper-refs penalizing the offense certainly added to the staleness. Did we convert any of the series where we had a holding penalty? Orton looked fine I thought, not exciting, but a good game manager. No delay of games tonight either.

Popps · 08-30-2009, 07:39 PM

Anyone notice what McBean was up to tonight? He looked good last week...

misturanderson · 08-30-2009, 07:45 PM

It seems like the "wait and see if we actually have any front 7 players that were just utilized improperly by a complete failure of a defensive coaching staff before spending huge resources on bringing in every defensive front 7 free agent and rookie we can get our hands on" approach might work out afterall. We won't be top 10, but I'm definitely seeing some improvement.

I can honestly say that the defense has at least shown some signs of being a middle of the pack defense this preseason, which I couldn't say the last two years.

Dumervil is a beast, Goodman is playing lights out, maybe even better than Champ, and Dawkins roaming the field, looking to take some heads off is going to be awesome to watch.

DBroncos4life · 08-30-2009, 07:46 PM

The D looked very good. Lots of things to like about it. I do agree with you GB16 the O looks really blah. It doesn't have the feel of a record setting system.

Chris · 08-30-2009, 07:47 PM

Dawkins's tackling sure is sick.

ColoradoDarin · 08-30-2009, 08:00 PM

Favorite D moment was Dawkins giving that receiver "the full funk." Doom looked good. Pass defense still looks a bit shaky - that could be just a lack of Dawkins playing in practice the last couple of weeks, but LBs in coverage aren't great. First step to fixing the D is the DL - and they are at the least improved.

DBroncos4life · 08-30-2009, 08:06 PM

Baker looks like the real deal.

Beantown Bronco · 08-30-2009, 08:07 PM

Surprised to see Baker and Woodyard still out there.....lots of playing time for them tonight.

Popps · 08-30-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Surprised to see Baker and Woodyard still out there.....lots of playing time for them tonight.

Can't wait to watch Baker again after reading all of this. Tough to key on one guy in a game like this, but glad to hear that he appears to be on his way to sticking.

broncogary · 08-30-2009, 09:03 PM

Not to mention that I can't believe they didn't call a hold a Pace in the end zone early in the game. He held him from the front and from the back.

TheReverend · 08-30-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

What a night for Dumervil. Is this guy quickly becoming the heart of our defense, or what?

This, 100%

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Originally Posted by Popps

Some of us talked a week ago about how easily he's made the transition to OLB. In fact, there was a nice contingent here before the season started that thought this system might suit him better. He's got to be accounted for on every play. Clearly, he's going to be a much bigger force for us than lined up in a 3-4 trying to push against a 350 LT on every single play.

Did you chloroform yourself? Some other drugs?

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Originally Posted by Popps

The D-line also seems to be more than holding their own. Peterson continues to be active against the run, and had a batted pass tonight.

Reid had some nice pressure and while he didn't do much, I saw Ayers out there late in the 2nd quarter. Imagine if he starts contributing.

I love the way this front seven looks so far. There are still issues, but we look much more like a real defense should out there.

Really..........?

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Originally Posted by Popps

Anything you guys noticed from the first/second team guys?

Literally look just as good as the starters... Larsen got abused several times though, that was sad.

JCMElway · 08-30-2009, 09:15 PM

Thanks Rev for bringing this optimistic thread back down to Earth. I was almost feeling good about our prospects again, but now I'm back to squinty-eyed pessimism. Thanks.

Orange_Beard · 08-30-2009, 09:16 PM

Doomer is going to Hawaii, he will be one of the highlights of the season.

JCMElway · 08-30-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by broncogary

Not to mention that I can't believe they didn't call a hold a Pace in the end zone early in the game. He held him from the front and from the back.

Should have been a safety, and goodman should have had a pick. right in his hands. Cutler looked pedestrian in everything but one drive at the end of the half. But, that's all the media will focus on.

Fan-fricking-tastic.

WABronco · 08-30-2009, 09:26 PM

Ya Cris Collinsworth was practically jizzing on every player on the field tonight, aside from our QB's. OH HES SO GREAT GREAT GREAT!

Doom should be solid for us. Moves decently and he's short and stocky like some other notable 3-4 LB's.

Anyone else...well, it's like getting excited over the pile on the right compared to the pile of dog **** on the left, honestly. Hopefully the massive overhaul in personnel will pay off in at least slightly below average to average play this year.

08-30-2009, 07:23 PM	#1
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Dumvervil and the Dl-line What a night for Dumervil. Is this guy quickly becoming the heart of our defense, or what? Some of us talked a week ago about how easily he's made the transition to OLB. In fact, there was a nice contingent here before the season started that thought this system might suit him better. He's got to be accounted for on every play. Clearly, he's going to be a much bigger force for us than lined up in a 3-4 trying to push against a 350 LT on every single play. The D-line also seems to be more than holding their own. Peterson continues to be active against the run, and had a batted pass tonight. Reid had some nice pressure and while he didn't do much, I saw Ayers out there late in the 2nd quarter. Imagine if he starts contributing. I love the way this front seven looks so far. There are still issues, but we look much more like a real defense should out there. Anything you guys noticed from the first/second team guys?

08-30-2009, 07:33 PM	#10
Dudeskey Ring of Famer This space for rent Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 4,314	I'm liking this new-look d so far. Doom was a lot of fun to watch tonight against Pace. Although I thought the refs should've called holding on him on several occasions. Last edited by Dudeskey; 08-30-2009 at 07:35 PM..

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08-30-2009, 07:25 PM	#2
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,883 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	Doom looked damn good.

08-30-2009, 07:26 PM	#3
sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,668 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	Getting penetration on running downs with 3 linemen. Thats amazing to me.

08-30-2009, 07:28 PM	#4
Rabb Zombie Slayer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,246 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I agree with everything you said, I was thinking the entire game how great Doom looked. Overall I am very happy with the defense right now. My only concern is that there still seems to be too much of an issue with open receivers over the middle. I know this is about the line but how great was it to watch Dawkins blast that WR to force an incompletion?

08-30-2009, 07:28 PM	#6
Chris Millenium Scrooge McDuck Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7,498 Adopt-a-Bronco: OrlandoFranklin	Doom has been getting pressure on nearly every play. It's nuts. Goodman looks good too.

08-30-2009, 07:28 PM	#7
GreatBronco16 !!!TEAM!!! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bama Baby Posts: 5,846 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Defense	Is it odd that I'm seeing so much improvement with the defense, but the offense just looks stale? I'm really not liking the play calling for the offense, but maybe he is holding back till the season starts. Or is not having Marshall really hurting us?

08-30-2009, 07:35 PM	#11
Pseudofool Cynic at Large Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Kingdom of Solipsism Posts: 2,886 Adopt-a-Bronco: Me?	Defense looked quite good I thought. There seemed to be constant pressure and good tackling (save that miss by Dwill). Had a lot of trouble with medium range passes on that long drive, but hte penalty by Doom didn't help. The hyper-refs penalizing the offense certainly added to the staleness. Did we convert any of the series where we had a holding penalty? Orton looked fine I thought, not exciting, but a good game manager. No delay of games tonight either.

08-30-2009, 07:39 PM	#12
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Anyone notice what McBean was up to tonight? He looked good last week...

08-30-2009, 07:45 PM	#13
misturanderson Ring of Famer Why not? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: FoCo Posts: 1,647 Adopt-a-Bronco: DemaryiusThomas	It seems like the "wait and see if we actually have any front 7 players that were just utilized improperly by a complete failure of a defensive coaching staff before spending huge resources on bringing in every defensive front 7 free agent and rookie we can get our hands on" approach might work out afterall. We won't be top 10, but I'm definitely seeing some improvement. I can honestly say that the defense has at least shown some signs of being a middle of the pack defense this preseason, which I couldn't say the last two years. Dumervil is a beast, Goodman is playing lights out, maybe even better than Champ, and Dawkins roaming the field, looking to take some heads off is going to be awesome to watch.

08-30-2009, 07:46 PM	#14
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,529	The D looked very good. Lots of things to like about it. I do agree with you GB16 the O looks really blah. It doesn't have the feel of a record setting system.

08-30-2009, 07:47 PM	#15
Chris Millenium Scrooge McDuck Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7,498 Adopt-a-Bronco: OrlandoFranklin	Dawkins's tackling sure is sick.

08-30-2009, 08:00 PM	#16
ColoradoDarin Ring of Famer AFCW Champs! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: St Augustine, FL Posts: 5,521 Adopt-a-Bronco: Knowshon's Shoe	Favorite D moment was Dawkins giving that receiver "the full funk." Doom looked good. Pass defense still looks a bit shaky - that could be just a lack of Dawkins playing in practice the last couple of weeks, but LBs in coverage aren't great. First step to fixing the D is the DL - and they are at the least improved.

08-30-2009, 08:06 PM	#17
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,529	Baker looks like the real deal.

08-30-2009, 08:07 PM	#18
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,040 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	Surprised to see Baker and Woodyard still out there.....lots of playing time for them tonight.

08-30-2009, 09:03 PM	#20
broncogary Horse Player and Dimwit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 5,746	Not to mention that I can't believe they didn't call a hold a Pace in the end zone early in the game. He held him from the front and from the back.

08-30-2009, 09:15 PM	#22
JCMElway Moderate-erator Dominate! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,867 Adopt-a-Bronco: Oleg	Thanks Rev for bringing this optimistic thread back down to Earth. I was almost feeling good about our prospects again, but now I'm back to squinty-eyed pessimism. Thanks.

08-30-2009, 09:16 PM	#23
Orange_Beard Over Jay Cutler Todd Snider Rules! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Leucadia, CA Posts: 7,836 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tony Scheffler	Doomer is going to Hawaii, he will be one of the highlights of the season.

08-30-2009, 09:26 PM	#25
WABronco WE SUCK AGAIN All dat force Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 4,976	Ya Cris Collinsworth was practically jizzing on every player on the field tonight, aside from our QB's. OH HES SO GREAT GREAT GREAT! Doom should be solid for us. Moves decently and he's short and stocky like some other notable 3-4 LB's. Anyone else...well, it's like getting excited over the pile on the right compared to the pile of dog **** on the left, honestly. Hopefully the massive overhaul in personnel will pay off in at least slightly below average to average play this year.