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Old 08-27-2009, 04:12 PM   #1
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Default Knowshon likely out opening week

No go for Knowshon in Week One?
Posted by Mike Florio on August 27, 2009 6:53 PM ET

When the Broncos face the Bengals to start the season, they might be without the services of the twelfth overall pick in the 2009 draft.

According to Jeff Legwold of the Denver Post, tailback Knowshon Moreno is not expected to be back to 100 percent by the time Week One rolls around.

Even if Moreno's sprained MCL has healed by September 13, Moreno's conditioning likely will keep him on the shelf.

With LaMont Jordan also missing time due to injury, the current starter is veteran Correll Buckhalter, who arrived via free agency after eight years in Philly.

Peyton Hillis also could shift over from fullback, and Darius Walker could get reps, too.

Oh well. At least they still have Jay Cutler Kyle Orton at quarterback.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...n-in-week-one/

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/...-health-at-rb/

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Old 08-27-2009, 04:14 PM   #2
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I checked out the Legwold article, there's not much to it: "not up to speed in rehab or conditioning by week 1" something like that. Wildly uninformative.
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Yeah, it might have helped to take him out of the game when he was limping and not 4 plays later.
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Yeah, it might have helped to take him out of the game when he was limping and not 4 plays later.
Let be fair, at no time did he go down or take himself out. For all the coaches knew he just banged his knee and had stringer.


It is contact sports and the things happen, which is one of the reason it stupid to spend 1st round money on running back because of the higher risk of injury and short life span in the league. You can find production and talent as good or better down the draft.
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Old 08-27-2009, 04:29 PM   #6
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Let be fair, at no time did he go down or take himself out. For all the coaches knew he just banged his knee and had stringer.


It is contact sports and the things happen, which is one of the reason it stupid to spend 1st round money on running back because of the higher risk of injury and short life span in the league. You can find production and talent as good or better down the draft.

No, he wasnt taken out until well after his initial injury. This ties back to coaches relying on a rookie to do what they expect of veterans. When you see a rookie limping, especially a first round pick, its not the same as seeing a vet. Vets should know their body better and are also not apt to stay in because their caught up in the fact that its their first game.
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Let be fair, at no time did he go down or take himself out. For all the coaches knew he just banged his knee and had stringer.


It is contact sports and the things happen, which is one of the reason it stupid to spend 1st round money on running back because of the higher risk of injury and short life span in the league. You can find production and talent as good or better down the draft.
It's worth it if you end up with a proven stud like AP or LT, despite the occasional injuries.
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No, he wasnt taken out until well after his initial injury. This ties back to coaches relying on a rookie to do what they expect of veterans. When you see a rookie limping, especially a first round pick, its not the same as seeing a vet. Vets should know their body better and are also not apt to stay in because their caught up in the fact that its their first game.
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We can ding McDaniels for a lot of stupid moves, but I will not say it his fault that KM was hurt. Things happens and playing one more play didn't cause the injury to be worse or force him out longer.
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Boy are you guys cursed at that running back spot or what? Brutal string of injuries over two seasons. I would look both ways before crossing the street if I was this Buckhalter chap.
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It's worth it if you end up with a proven stud like AP or LT, despite the occasional injuries.
Or you get Ki-Jan Carter or Benson, then it real set your team back. Like I stated you can find runners later in the draft that can be studs in our system.
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Seriously? Buckhalter over Hillis?
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We can ding McDaniels for a lot of stupid moves, but I will not say it his fault that KM was hurt. Things happens and playing one more play didn't cause the injury to be worse or force him out longer.
You dont know that this is true.
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No, he wasnt taken out until well after his initial injury. This ties back to coaches relying on a rookie to do what they expect of veterans. When you see a rookie limping, especially a first round pick, its not the same as seeing a vet. Vets should know their body better and are also not apt to stay in because their caught up in the fact that its their first game.
While i shocking agree with you here, theres no proof he made the injury worse after that. In fact, if he's limping, he probably injured it then and that was that
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We can ding McDaniels for a lot of stupid moves, but I will not say it his fault that KM was hurt. Things happens and playing one more play didn't cause the injury to be worse or force him out longer.

I believe Shanahan would have drafted Moreno in the first round.
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You dont know that this is true.
You also don't know it not. Injuries happen that is part of the game.
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Or you get Ki-Jan Carter or Benson, then it real set your team back. Like I stated you can find runners later in the draft that can be studs in our system.
Yeah, especially when youre a pass happy team. Its amazing. Shanahan has one of the all time best offenses to feature a running back but minimizes a strength by relying on scrubs. And then comes McDaniels and his pass happy offense and he decides to take a RB in the first. Its like McDaniels and Shanahan are the inverse of each other. McDaniels also tries to make guys like Orton work in his offense, whereas, Shanahan liked blue chip talent at QB.
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I believe Shanahan would have drafted Moreno in the first round.
I doubt it. I would see him going with Brown (UCONN) or Coffee (ALA). Both fit his mode of runner and have shown they have talent.
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You also don't know it not. Injuries happen that is part of the game.
I know he was playing injured and thats never a good idea. I also know that the circumstances should have dictated being cautious.
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Yeah, it might have helped to take him out of the game when he was limping and not 4 plays later.
Armchair coaching is soooo awesome!!!
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Yeah, especially when youre a pass happy team. Its amazing. Shanahan has one of the all time best offenses to feature a running back but minimizes a strength by relying on scrubs. And then comes McDaniels and his pass happy offense and he decides to take a RB in the first. Its like McDaniels and Shanahan are the inverse of each other. McDaniels also tries to make guys like Orton work in his offense, whereas, Shanahan liked blue chip talent at QB.
OK, now youre back to being a moron. Yes, NE was a pass first team, but not only spent a top pick on a back, needed a good running game to balance their attack ESPECIALLY come playoff time.

Not to mention, McD knows a bit more about what makes his offense click than you do.

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First, the article is pure speculation. He was to be out 1-2 weeks which would mean he could be back at practice next week. He could play in week 1 with a week or two of practice under his belt. It is wait and see with him. Probably would want to limit his carries if he played though.

Second, I have no problem with a combo of Hillis and Buckhalter for a week.
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OK, now youre back to being a moron.
Back to being a moron? As if he stopped at some point? With him it's just a matter of degree.
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I know he was playing injured and thats never a good idea. I also know that the circumstances should have dictated being cautious.
like Plummer and Griese? bhwahaha, nice try moron
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