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Old 08-27-2009, 01:36 PM   #1
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Dez Bryant. If the Broncos could get a first rounder from the jets then they could draft Bryant plus defensive players with next 2 picks. I would love to see a draft of 1a Dez Bryant 1b Sergio Kindle 2a Arthur Jones. Then trade our 3 round pick for Drew Stanton or draft McCoy or Zack Robinson. Bryant would not be the headach that Marshall has been. The Broncos are in rebuilding mold and Bryant would be alot cheaper then Marshall at 4 to 5 million a year.

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Old 08-27-2009, 01:40 PM   #2
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Yes. Let the Broncos trade a known quantity for a draft pick that we all will hope is high enough to target a WR who will one day be as good as Marshall, but has yet to play an NFL down yet.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:42 PM   #3
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The Broncos are in rebuilding mold and Bryant would be alot cheaper then Marshall at 4 to 5 million a year.
Not true.

Any scenario involving a first round WR next year needs to take into account that Marshall is signed for $2 mil this year, and essentially the same next year with the high tender.

Depending on how rookie contracts go next year, the signing bonus could be very similar to what Marshall ends up getting, but with Marshall, at least we know we are getting first round production from day one. Who knows what you'll get with a first round rookie WR, where there are a TON more busts than stars.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:44 PM   #4
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Not true.

Any scenario involving a first round WR next year needs to take into account that Marshall is signed for $2 mil this year, and essentially the same next year with the high tender.

Depending on how rookie contracts go next year, the signing bonus could be very similar to what Marshall ends up getting, but with Marshall, at least we know we are getting first round production from day one. Who knows what you'll get with a first round rookie WR, where there are a TON more busts than stars.
Excellent point. 1st round contracts are pretty ridiculous and you are only paying for potential.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:51 PM   #5
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If you know you could get Dez Bryant by trading Marshall then you would not trade for him. Bryant has played in a offence like the Broncos run for 2 years . He has better hands then Marshall. Bryant is also great at running after the catch but so is Marshall. Bryant is also a great red zone target.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:52 PM   #6
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I'd always prefer the known commodity, especially when the known commodity is AWESOME and young. **** this, make him play.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:53 PM   #7
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If you know you could get Dez Bryant by trading Marshall then you would not trade for him.
wow. you caved pretty quickly.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:53 PM   #8
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I'm a pretty big fan of keeping home grown talent.
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If we trade BM I will bet one of the top 3 picks would be WR. Given the bust rate at that position I'd pass. Give me two front 7 guys and a QB with those picks. Sign a FA WR in offseason. I'd PREFER signing BM. Expecting Royal and BS to stay healthy all year is not likely.

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Old 08-27-2009, 01:54 PM   #10
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I remember another 1st round can't miss wide receiver from Okie State .... Rashaun Woods, he was drafted in the 1st round in 2004 by the 49ers. He was released last year by the Hamilton Tiger Cats..........
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This forum is intent and seeing all our young, talented players gone.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:56 PM   #12
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**** drafting wide receivers high. Eddie Royal was the exception, not the rule. I wouldn't touch them before the 3rd round, at the earliest.
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**** drafting wide receivers high. Eddie Royal was the exception, not the rule. I wouldn't touch them before the 3rd round, at the earliest.
What rule? Lots of teams have found WRs that have panned out in the first round. If your scout people do there jobs right you shouldn't have to worry about draft picks. You get the right FO in place and we can build through the draft and make this team better.
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What rule? Lots of teams have found WRs that have panned out in the first round. If your scout people do there jobs right you shouldn't have to worry about draft picks. You get the right FO in place and we can build through the draft and make this team better.
Yep, our 1st next year will... ehhh... never mind.
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**** drafting wide receivers high. Eddie Royal was the exception, not the rule. I wouldn't touch them before the 3rd round, at the earliest.
You wouldn't draft him before the 3 round are you serious. My worry is if the Broncos trade with the Jets and they pick around the 10 or 13 pick that he will be gone. I think he could go top 5.
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Yep, our 1st next year will... ehhh... never mind.
Well if we trade all our draft picks Pat doesn't have to worry about signing players that are risks and paying a scouts to go out an look at players. Seems like a win for him.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:17 PM   #18
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What rule? Lots of teams have found WRs that have panned out in the first round. If your scout people do there jobs right you shouldn't have to worry about draft picks. You get the right FO in place and we can build through the draft and make this team better.
Panning out is one thing. Marshall has certainly panned out.

If the diva part is the problem, which you are basically saying it is, then you are just going to have to deal with that all over again. How many first round WRs.....that actually produce....turn out NOT to be divas just like Marshall?

There is no real upside but there is a TON of potential downside to trading Marshall for a #1 just to use that selection on another WR. It just doesn't make sense.
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I'd rather have proven talent than potential talent any day....
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What rule? Lots of teams have found WRs that have panned out in the first round. If your scout people do there jobs right you shouldn't have to worry about draft picks. You get the right FO in place and we can build through the draft and make this team better.
The Wide Receivers have a high bust quotient because the majority of them are divas who aren't willing to work at their trade to get better because they've been getting by on superior athletic ability to this point rule.
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1st round....6th round..... 2nd round ........
and the 6th rounder was the best one of the bunch
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:23 PM   #22
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Excellent point. 1st round contracts are pretty ridiculous and you are only paying for potential.
No. 1st round contracts outside the first 7 or 8 picks are incredible bargins.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:29 PM   #23
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Shaun Ellis and Vernon Gholston are guys I wouldn't mind seeing if we did have to trade Marshall. How ever you would have to package it to make it work. Marcus Thomas, Moss or whatever. Ellis is on the the down side but he still improves the DLine. If we do trade I want players with a picks. Gholston is way out of favor with the coaching staff there. The fans hate him like we hate Moss Clemens isn't a bad idea either.
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I remember another 1st round can't miss wide receiver from Okie State .... Rashaun Woods, he was drafted in the 1st round in 2004 by the 49ers. He was released last year by the Hamilton Tiger Cats..........
Dez Bryant isnt Rashaun Woods.

Dez is a huge receiver, that is fast and has hands every bit as stick as Fitz or Moss or Calvin Johnson.

HE was the best receiver in teh Big XII last year, not Crabtree. ANd he will be the best receiver in teh nation this year.

Id bet money that Dez will end up more like Fitz or Calvin Johnson than he does Rashaun Woods. Woods was touted as a great route runner, but that's pretty much all he had going for him. Dez is the complete package.
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