So what do you all think about Hillis returning kicks? - The Orange Mane

BroncoDoug · 08-27-2009, 01:15 AM

He did it at Arkansas, but I don't know if i want to risk him getting hurt, he is going to be a big part of the offense(I hope)

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...947?source=rss

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True to his word, Broncos coach Josh McDaniels has looked at some additional kickoff returners this week.

Running back Peyton Hillis has spent plenty of time fielding kickoffs in practice. Hillis returned punts and kickoffs as a college player at Arkansas.

Rookie wide receiver Kenny McKinley bobbled a kickoff and fumbled another Saturday at Seattle. Rookie cornerback Alphonso Smith also bobbled a kickoff in the game.

ZONA · 08-27-2009, 01:25 AM

It's not like Smith didn't do this at college. Just rookie nerves, they will settle down. You don't just put somebody else back there this soon. I think what Josh is probably doing is just having somebody else practice with them to let them know he is still looking for somebody to WIN that job. We might see Hillis return a few in the game but I don't think that's going to be anything long term. Although the man does break alot of tackles and has a mean stiff arm, he'd probably do very well.

TheChamp24 · 08-27-2009, 01:45 AM

I still think Royal should be returning kicks, and Smith punts.

meangene · 08-27-2009, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by McFoneco1331

I still think Royal should be returning kicks, and Smith punts.

I recall reading that Royal would be returning punts, if anything.

Ratboy · 08-27-2009, 03:27 AM

Personally, I want our fastest guy out there returning kicks.

but does it honestly matter who is returning kicks? If it's like anything like the past decade, the blocking will be horrible and the returner will get smothered.

meangene · 08-27-2009, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RTribbey

Personally, I want our fastest guy out there returning kicks.

but does it honestly matter who is returning kicks? If it's like anything like the past decade, the blocking will be horrible and the returner will get smothered.

With the real emphasis on special teams I think we will see improvement in the return area. The coverage teams already look good. I thought McKinley and Smith both looked good in the first game. So, yeah, I do think it is going to matter. I don't see risking Hillis doing it, though. I can see using Royal on occasion when we really need a return - like we did with Rod some.

rastaman · 08-27-2009, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by McBronco_Doug

He did it at Arkansas, but I don't know if i want to risk him getting hurt, he is going to be a big part of the offense(I hope)

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...947?source=rss

It will probably result in a career ending knee injury.

WolfpackGuy · 08-27-2009, 04:21 AM

Second worst idea ever.
First worst was the Jayby Cutler trade.

Pony Boy · 08-27-2009, 07:59 AM

We might need a platoon of returners, I got a feeling we might be returning a lot of kickoffs this season ...........

Peoples Champ · 08-27-2009, 08:00 AM

dont like it

iDENVER · 08-27-2009, 08:01 AM

he is to important on our offense

2KBack · 08-27-2009, 08:09 AM

I think it's a good idea, and Hillis could be a good weapon in the return game. I wouldn't expect him to break crazy TD runs, but he would be very effective at giving the offense consistantly solid or good field position. It;'s similar to when Denver had Droughns returning kick offs, he didn't score on them, but it was the last time we had a solid consistant return game.

I'll say it again, you don't save a player that can help you in a phase of the game. You want the best performer in every position, no exceptions.

SoDak Bronco · 08-27-2009, 08:10 AM

I think we should have JMFW back there returing kicks

Popps · 08-27-2009, 08:15 AM

This goes to my theory that, like Shanahan... McDaniels will try to be too cute with Hillis for a while. But, hopefully he'll end up realizing what Shanahan did, and just hand him the ****ing ball.

PRBronco · 08-27-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

I'll say it again, you don't save a player that can help you in a phase of the game. You want the best performer in every position, no exceptions.

This. Don't forget it.

~Crash~ · 08-27-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

I think it's a good idea, and Hillis could be a good weapon in the return game. I wouldn't expect him to break crazy TD runs, but he would be very effective at giving the offense consistently solid or good field position. It;'s similar to when Denver had Droughns returning kick offs, he didn't score on them, but it was the last time we had a solid consistant return game.

I'll say it again, you don't save a player that can help you in a phase of the game. You want the best performer in every position, no exceptions.

how true

I want hills to touch the ball as much as possible

Beantown Bronco · 08-27-2009, 08:16 AM

Injuries to kick returners couldn't be more exaggerated. What is it, like one guy every 5-10 years gets a significant injury returning kicks? And for whatever reason people freak out like it happens every game.

Wedge guys go down FAR more often than the actual returners.

~Crash~ · 08-27-2009, 08:18 AM

to the people that talk injuries find a life . and to the ones that talk Cutler my god the river watter has hit the ocean

Beej · 08-27-2009, 08:20 AM

Only if somebody kicks him first.

baja · 08-27-2009, 08:25 AM

I don't care who ends up back there as long as we get a lot better in that phase of the game.

dbfan4life · 08-27-2009, 08:27 AM

While we're at in, lets have BMarsh on punt coverage as the 'gunner'. I'm sure he's done it at some point in his playing career.

~Crash~ · 08-27-2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dbfan4life

While we're at in, lets have BMarsh on punt coverage as the 'gunner'. I'm sure he's done it at some point in his playing career.

I bet he would not mind .

loborugger · 08-27-2009, 08:48 AM

Hillis is supposed to run over folks, its what he does. That is great in the ground game. Pretty much all the good return guys are fast and elusive - see Dainty Hall. Hillis is not this. He is not explosive, so I dont see him ever busting off one to the house.

TheDave · 08-27-2009, 08:51 AM

Might as well... The guys who have been doing it up to now haven't impressed.

Borks147 · 08-27-2009, 08:54 AM

Our last kickoff returner that was any good was reuben droughns, a FB/RB. Hmmmmmm.....

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08-27-2009, 01:25 AM	#2
ZONA Ring of Famer Liquid greatness in every packet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,382 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	It's not like Smith didn't do this at college. Just rookie nerves, they will settle down. You don't just put somebody else back there this soon. I think what Josh is probably doing is just having somebody else practice with them to let them know he is still looking for somebody to WIN that job. We might see Hillis return a few in the game but I don't think that's going to be anything long term. Although the man does break alot of tackles and has a mean stiff arm, he'd probably do very well.

08-27-2009, 01:45 AM	#3
TheChamp24 DERP DERP DERP The Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Broncos Country Posts: 4,874	I still think Royal should be returning kicks, and Smith punts.

08-27-2009, 03:27 AM	#5
Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,276	Personally, I want our fastest guy out there returning kicks. but does it honestly matter who is returning kicks? If it's like anything like the past decade, the blocking will be horrible and the returner will get smothered.

08-27-2009, 04:21 AM	#8
WolfpackGuy Call me, "Maybe" Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,675	Second worst idea ever. First worst was the Jayby Cutler trade.

08-27-2009, 07:59 AM	#9
Pony Boy "Whoa Nellie" Rub some dirt on it Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,311 Adopt-a-Bronco: mellon head	We might need a platoon of returners, I got a feeling we might be returning a lot of kickoffs this season ...........

08-27-2009, 08:00 AM	#10
Peoples Champ Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orange County Posts: 3,100 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	dont like it

08-27-2009, 08:01 AM	#11
iDENVER Seasoned Veteran -BroNcOs- Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: east coast Posts: 387 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis Dumervil	he is to important on our offense

08-27-2009, 08:09 AM	#12
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,275	I think it's a good idea, and Hillis could be a good weapon in the return game. I wouldn't expect him to break crazy TD runs, but he would be very effective at giving the offense consistantly solid or good field position. It;'s similar to when Denver had Droughns returning kick offs, he didn't score on them, but it was the last time we had a solid consistant return game. I'll say it again, you don't save a player that can help you in a phase of the game. You want the best performer in every position, no exceptions.

08-27-2009, 08:10 AM	#13
SoDak Bronco Lace em' up and lets go!! Von Miller aka QB Killa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Robert Ayers	I think we should have JMFW back there returing kicks

08-27-2009, 08:15 AM	#14
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	This goes to my theory that, like Shanahan... McDaniels will try to be too cute with Hillis for a while. But, hopefully he'll end up realizing what Shanahan did, and just hand him the ****ing ball.

08-27-2009, 08:16 AM	#17
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,042 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	Injuries to kick returners couldn't be more exaggerated. What is it, like one guy every 5-10 years gets a significant injury returning kicks? And for whatever reason people freak out like it happens every game. Wedge guys go down FAR more often than the actual returners.

08-27-2009, 08:18 AM	#18
~Crash~ My new dog Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,600 Adopt-a-Bronco: Kuper	to the people that talk injuries find a life . and to the ones that talk Cutler my god the river watter has hit the ocean

08-27-2009, 08:20 AM	#19
Beej Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 417	Only if somebody kicks him first.

08-27-2009, 08:25 AM	#20
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,899 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	I don't care who ends up back there as long as we get a lot better in that phase of the game.

08-27-2009, 08:27 AM	#21
dbfan4life Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 2,499	While we're at in, lets have BMarsh on punt coverage as the 'gunner'. I'm sure he's done it at some point in his playing career.

08-27-2009, 08:48 AM	#23
loborugger lost in the ether Did we finally get a FB??? Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The 'cuse Posts: 5,783 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	Hillis is supposed to run over folks, its what he does. That is great in the ground game. Pretty much all the good return guys are fast and elusive - see Dainty Hall. Hillis is not this. He is not explosive, so I dont see him ever busting off one to the house.

08-27-2009, 08:51 AM	#24
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	Might as well... The guys who have been doing it up to now haven't impressed.

08-27-2009, 08:54 AM	#25
Borks147 the dude abides... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hanover NH Posts: 1,845	Our last kickoff returner that was any good was reuben droughns, a FB/RB. Hmmmmmm.....