suppressed by the government

[Rigs11]

Here you go rightards. If you can't realize what sentiments your evil mob inspiring party is causing, have a look. I'm sure this guy is merely being suppressed.

Man carries assault rifle to Obama protest -- and it's legal

PHOENIX, Arizona (CNN) -- A man toting an assault rifle was among a dozen protesters carrying weapons while demonstrating outside President Barack Obama's speech to veterans on Monday, but no laws were broken. It was the second instance in recent days in which unconcealed weapons have appeared near presidential events.

Video from the protest in Phoenix, Arizona, shows the man standing with other protesters, with the rifle slung over his right shoulder.

Phoenix police said authorities monitored about a dozen people carrying weapons while peacefully demonstrating.

"It was a group interested in exercising the right to bear arms," said police spokesman Sgt. Andy Hill.

Arizona law has nothing in the books regulating assault rifles, and only requires permits for carrying concealed weapons. So despite the man's proximity to the president, there were no charges or arrests to be made. Hill said officers explained the law to some people who were upset about the presence of weapons at the protest. Video Watch the rifle being legally carried at rally »

"I come from another state where 'open carry' is legal, but no one does it, so the police don't really know about it and they harass people, arrest people falsely," the man, who wasn't identified, said in an interview aired by CNN affiliate KNVX. "I think that people need to get out and do it more so that they get kind of conditioned to it."

Gun-toting protesters have demonstrated around the president before. Last week, a man protesting outside Obama's town hall meeting in New Hampshire had a gun strapped to his thigh. That state also doesn't require a license for open carry.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/...fle/index.html

[watermock]

Plants.

BTW, did he have ammo or was it loaded? It doesn't say.

It's so obvious.

[mhgaffney]

A friend of mine who administers several medical clinics in Colorado for indigents went to Grand Junction the other day for Obama's town meeting. He never saw Obama -- due to all of the security.

He took photos of the anti Obama protesters -- holding racist signs -- very hateful of Obama -- the shots were pretty disgusting. It was the same atmosphere we saw in Dallas at around the time of the JFK assassination.

I heard that Obama gets at least 30 serious death threats a day --

The hate being whipped up by the lunatic right is presently off the Richter scale.

[mhgaffney]

Here are a couple of shots of the anti Obama protesters who showed up to oppose Obama's health care plans in Grand Junction the other day.

What are these crazy people thinking? Apparently they get their information from FOX and maybe that idiot Rush Limbaugh

[mhgaffney]

Here's another:

[tnedator]

He seems to be in the middle of the "pro health care reform" group, not across the street where those that opposed it were located.

So, why jump to the conclusion that he was protesting Obama?

Also, while IMO, what he did was stupid, it is legal.

Considering he was in the middle of the Pro-Obama/Pro-Health care reform crowd, if one wants to make 'assumptions', it would be much more likely to 'assume' that like other plants they have put at Town Halls (like the little girl that just happened to ask a question, who did the same with her mother while the mother campaigned for Obama), this guy was there with the AR-15 to give the liberals a chance to scream "see, these guys with guns are crazy -- guns need to be outlawed".

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by watermock

Plants.

BTW, did he have ammo or was it loaded? It doesn't say.

It's so obvious.

If it's obvious then why do you need to ask?

[cutthemdown]

There should be a federal law prohibiting firearms within 1000 feet of the President unless you are secret service or law enforcement.

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

There should be a federal law prohibiting firearms within 1000 feet of the President unless you are secret service or law enforcement.

only 1000 feet?

I would bet that if people had shown up to Bush's appearances with guns, laws would have been changed ASAP.

[alkemical]

I think these stories are also pushed, like the election office attacks - in order to push for "laws" that further control "arms".

[tnedator]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

There should be a federal law prohibiting firearms within 1000 feet of the President unless you are secret service or law enforcement.

This would be equivalent to a TFR (temporary flight restriction) in aviation, which might prevent someone from flying over an area where the president or some other major event is taking place.

I could see a restriction zone that prevents a gun withing x feet of the President. There are some complications, of course, such as if he comes within 1000 feet of a residence or business where a person lawfully possesses a gun, but those details aside, in concept I could get on board.

It's one thing to have conservatives with guns, but when the liberals who have shown their propensity for violent protests start showing up with AR-15's, then I get nervous.

[El Guapo]

Originally Posted by TailgateNut

only 1000 feet?

I would bet that if people had shown up to Bush's appearances with guns, laws would have been changed ASAP.

Guns didn't make appearances around Bush because people weren't fearful of him tinkering with the 2nd amendment.

Now, while I'm an avid gun supporter I do agree with the fact that guns should not be allowed within x number of feet from the president. (1000 ft isn't enough, btw)

[Garcia Bronco]

They didn't break the law. It was like having 12 extra secret service out there for free. Good on them.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by TailgateNut

only 1000 feet?

I would bet that if people had shown up to Bush's appearances with guns, laws would have been changed ASAP.

Let's be serious. They would have tazed his ass and dragged him off, and the rightards wouldn't have made a peep. Remember when Bush's SS thugs dragged those women out of the orchestrated Bush rally in Denver because they didn't like their Tshirts? I don't remember the rightards sticking up for the Bill of Rights on that occasion. They believe in selective application of rights, I guess.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Here are a couple of shots of the anti Obama protesters who showed up to oppose Obama's health care plans in Grand Junction the other day.

What are these crazy people thinking? Apparently they get their information from FOX and maybe that idiot Rush Limbaugh

I don't think you are allowed to make fun of where anybody gets their information from.

[Rigs11]

Originally Posted by amesj523

I think these stories are also pushed, like the election office attacks - in order to push for "laws" that further control "arms".

Are you freaking serious? This is political terrorism and a gross abuse of the
2nd amendment.

[Rigs11]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

They didn't break the law. It was like having 12 extra secret service out there for free. Good on them.

nice how you turn the other cheek when you have whackjobs at presidential rallies with assault rifles.have you watched the video and listened to the rhetoric they were spewing?

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by Rigs11

Are you freaking serious? This is political terrorism and a gross abuse of the
2nd amendment.

Exactly, take the extreme and make it seem like the norm.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Rigs11

nice how you turn the other cheek when you have whackjobs at presidential rallies with assault rifles.have you watched the video and listened to the rhetoric they were spewing?

Under the first amendment and second amendment I have no problem with what they were doing. Would I bring a firearm to hear the PResident speak? No. But while I may not agree with what they did or things they said, I support their right to express it. That's what it means to be an American.

[tnedator]

First, the secret service said they are used to dealing with open carry situations, and that they would never let an armed person near the president. They work with local law enforcement. In the AZ and NH rallies, they were in the public viewing area, had broken no law and posed no threat to the president.

Second, the man with the AR-15 is in the middle of a pro-obama/pro-health care reform crowd, and nobody is paying him any attention. Sound like another liberal stunt to garner outrage against the 'GOP protestors" to anyone else?

[Rohirrim]

Like I said, rightards believe in a selective application of rights.

[tnedator]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Like I said, rightards believe in a selective application of rights.

How so? That's a ridiculous statement, especially considering the Obama administration is doing what you accuse (in your childish nickname way) of doing.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by tnedator

How so? That's a ridiculous statement, especially considering the Obama administration is doing what you accuse (in your childish nickname way) of doing.

Childish nickname way... WTF does that mean?

Anyway, the point is valid. You know, and I know, and every reasonable American on Earth knows, had anybody showed up with an AR-15 hanging off their shoulder at a Bush rally, they would have been tazed, handcuffed and removed. People were forcibly removed for their Tshirts and bumper stickers. What do you think a weapon would have earned them? The hypocrisy is deep.

[tnedator]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Childish nickname way... WTF does that mean?

Rightard? It's like what 10 year olds on a play ground would shout at each other. So, when you call me or someone else a rightard, are we supposed to reply with, "sticks and stones...."

I'm assuming you are an adult, so why can't you have a discussion/debate without childish name calling?

Anyway, the point is valid. You know, and I know, and every reasonable American on Earth knows, had anybody showed up with an AR-15 hanging off their shoulder at a Bush rally, they would have been tazed, handcuffed and removed. People were forcibly removed for their Tshirts and bumper stickers. What do you think a weapon would have earned them? The hypocrisy is deep.

No, I don't know that. You are stating something as a fact, that you have no proof about.

So, your assertion is that nobody has ever open carried a weapon in a public viewing area outside a venue of a Bush appearance? Do you have anything to back this up, or simply, "because I said so?"

[Rigs11]

Originally Posted by tnedator

Rightard? It's like what 10 year olds on a play ground would shout at each other. So, when you call me or someone else a rightard, are we supposed to reply with, "sticks and stones...."

I'm assuming you are an adult, so why can't you have a discussion/debate without childish name calling?



No, I don't know that. You are stating something as a fact, that you have no proof about.

So, your assertion is that nobody has ever open carried a weapon in a public viewing area outside a venue of a Bush appearance? Do you have anything to back this up, or simply, "because I said so?"

unfortunately that is what your party has become. They lost the election and now are basically throwing tantrums, spreading fears and lies,threatening the pres,performing political terrorism by showing up with guns to intimidate people.if you somehow think that this kind of behavior is going to help your party or the country than you are a rightard.