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Old 08-04-2009, 05:55 PM   #1
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Glenn Dorsey was a favorite of the draft graders.

When the Chiefs choose him fifth overall in 2008, the reviews were unanimous; the Chiefs got a great bargain in the LSU defensive tackle.

Little more than a year later, Dorsey seems far from a sure thing.

As Evan Silva pointed out in today's one-liners, Dorsey has essentially been deemed too fat to practice. (As opposed to too fat to fish.)

Five days after failing a conditioning test, Dorsey continues to try to get slim while his teammates practice football.

Kent Babb of the Kansas City Star wondered if the Chiefs are trying to prove a point:

"He's spending time on sprints and the stationary bike, but I can't help but think that some of the exercises he's doing aren't more for continued humiliation of the one player who can't seem to get in shape," Babb wrote.

It's not like Dorsey showed his talent as a rookie, but let things slide this offseason.

He did very little last season. Jason Whitlock broke out the B word by midseason, although there were legitimate questions later regarding how Dorsey was utilized.

Those excuses won't hold up if Dorsey fails to impress another coaching staff. Dorsey barely practiced this offseason because of a shin injury before showing up heavy to camp.

Dorsey is one of the young players the Chiefs should build around, but he risks getting left behind.

Complicating matters is that Dorsey must learn a new scheme. Expected to be a penetrating tackle in a 4-3 defense, he will now be asked to occupy blockers in a 3-4.

At this rate, Dorsey could wind up being a very round and expensive peg that doesn't fit into any of Kansas City's holes.

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Tuesday, Aug. 4, 2009 - 1:18 a.m. ET

RIVER FALLS, Wis.—As the Kansas City Chiefs bid adieu to their training camp home for the last 19 years—they'll be in St. Joseph, Mo., next year—they face these questions:

1.) All the right moves? After inheriting a team that won only six games the last two seasons, new G.M. Scott Pioli didn't waste time changing the landscape. He fired Herm Edwards and replaced him with first-year coach Todd Haley. He acquired former Patriots quarterback Matt Cassel, who has started only 15 NFL games—then signed him to a lucrative contract. And he traded Tony Gonzalez, the most productive tight end in NFL history. If those bold moves pan out, Pioli will look like a genius. If not ...


2.) Where's the rush? The defense had only 10 sacks last season, the fewest in the NFL since the league went to a 16-game schedule in 1978. The jury is out on whether drafting end Tyson Jackson in the first round, trading for veteran linebacker Mike Vrabel and moving former ends Tamba Hali and Turk McBride to outside linebacker was enough to improve the pass rush.

3.) Can the Elvis Bono Express continue to roll? Bono looked like the second coming of Tom Brady last year in New England, where considerably more talent surrounded him than what he'll have in Kansas City. Cassel might take a step back before he takes one forward.

4.) How's the protection? The offensive line features a Pro Bowl guard in Brian Waters, but the rest of the starters are average and there isn't a lot of depth. Making this group more suspect is the fact three linemen—Waters, Mike Goff and Damion McIntosh—failed the conditioning test at the start of camp and that Waters asked to be traded or released during the offseason.

5.) How will they hold up early in the season? The Chiefs' first seven games include road games in Baltimore, Philadelphia and Washington and home games against the Giants, Cowboys and Chargers. If they start the season 1-6 or worse, things could blow up in a hurry.

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Old 08-04-2009, 06:01 PM   #2
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:15 PM   #3
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:34 PM   #4
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Maybe this will take some of the sting from our own 1st round bust.

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Old 08-04-2009, 06:37 PM   #5
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Huh...and our front 7 is garbage...Pretty sure Dumervil and Ekuban had 10.5 sacks between the two of them...


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Hehe, they drafted bobo...
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Even worse than our front 7, when you take into account Tamba Hali hasn't done **** either.
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Between him and Gholston front 7 players taken in the top 10 were a bit of a crap shoot last year. Who's this year's bust: Jackson, Curry, or Raji?
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Throw me on record right now saying Glen Dorsey flat out sucks.
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Done! You might be right and if he busts outright than I will shower you with props and call Dorsey a spoony bard.
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I don't think he'll ever amount to another other than an average starter. If he goes to a SINGLE pro bowl, I will be shocked.
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Between him and Gholston front 7 players taken in the top 10 were a bit of a crap shoot last year. Who's this year's bust: Jackson, Curry, or Raji?
Oh, I've been very out-spoken that Raji sucks. Of course, I haven't seen him play in the NFL yet, but I have SERIOUS doubts that he can handle a 3-4 Nose.

Curry was vastly over-rated, but is a genuinely good player.

Jackson will probably be really successful... but really successful as a 3-4 end doesn't make much noise anyways unless you're balls deep in the east coast like Dick Seymour.
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Again, this is why the panty-bunching around here over trading for Smith is just silly. The draft is a crap shoot, and you pay a TON of money to take guys up that high. Some work out, some don't.
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Between him and Gholston front 7 players taken in the top 10 were a bit of a crap shoot last year. Who's this year's bust: Jackson, Curry, or Raji?
eh I am not sure if any of them will bust, but I highly doubt Jackson and Curry live up to their draft stock.

I will say though that I think Crabtree and Orakpo will be busts
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Again, this is why the panty-bunching around here over trading for Smith is just silly. The draft is a crap shoot, and you pay a TON of money to take guys up that high. Some work out, some don't.
On that logic we should simply dump our top pick every year. Would you be in favor of that?
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He failed the same test Champ did.

Personally, I think Dorsey can still excel. However, maybe not in a 3-4 and hopefully not with that team.
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Oh, I've been very out-spoken that Raji sucks. Of course, I haven't seen him play in the NFL yet, but I have SERIOUS doubts that he can handle a 3-4 Nose.

Curry was vastly over-rated, but is a genuinely good player.

Jackson will probably be really successful... but really successful as a 3-4 end doesn't make much noise anyways unless you're balls deep in the east coast like Dick Seymour.
Curry reminds me of Patrick Willis to some extend, he is as fast and technically very well rounded. I could see him put up some pretty decent numbers, but it is hard to be truly special at 4-3 OLB.
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Curry reminds me of Patrick Willis to some extend, he is as fast and technically very well rounded. I could see him put up some pretty decent numbers, but it is hard to be truly special at 4-3 OLB.
Great measurables and he plays well, but honestly, it really bothers me that he wasn't set as the centerpiece of a Wake Forest defensive unit...
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You are a golden god and Dorsey is a spoony bard.

It's still a bit early, but if this trend continues then I will do it again. It took Haynesworth four years.
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Curry reminds me of Patrick Willis to some extend, he is as fast and technically very well rounded. I could see him put up some pretty decent numbers, but it is hard to be truly special at 4-3 OLB.
Patrick Willis was the man defensively in the SEC from his sophmore year on. Curry has nice measurables, but isn't even remotely near the same class of player as Patrick Willis.
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Oh, I've been very out-spoken that Raji sucks. Of course, I haven't seen him play in the NFL yet, but I have SERIOUS doubts that he can handle a 3-4 Nose.

Curry was vastly over-rated, but is a genuinely good player.

Jackson will probably be really successful... but really successful as a 3-4 end doesn't make much noise anyways unless you're balls deep in the east coast like Dick Seymour.
I was listening to BB on sirus and he said Raji was playing DE in practice.
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I was listening to BB on sirus and he said Raji was playing DE in practice.
Hahahahahaha.

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