2 back formations? - The Orange Mane

mwill07 · 08-03-2009, 07:28 PM

for those of you in camp - I know that Hillis has been getting some reps @ tailback. Does it look like he will get any action @ FB? Will we even run many plays w/ 2 backs in the backfield?

Seems to me that Hillis's best chance to contribute this year is in a 2 back set, and if I'm McD, I'd make sure that happens.

The MVPlaya · 08-03-2009, 07:29 PM

McD said they don't run many 2 back sets in the interview today...

Abqbronco · 08-03-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The MVPlaya

McD said they don't run many 2 back sets in the interview today...

Yeah, but McD is a confirmed liar and as such will exclusively run 2 back sets every single down this year. Mark it down... You heard it here first.

Northman · 08-03-2009, 07:38 PM

What the camp reporters have not clued you in about is the monster they got in that formation. Aside from the greatness of Hillis they have the Tank ( backup punter from last year) who is going create holes the size of texas. He is the ultimate weapon of weapons. Be prepared. They havent mentioned him yet because he hasnt come off the bench after eating all the donuts.

The MVPlaya · 08-03-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Abqbronco

Yeah, but McD is a confirmed liar and as such will exclusively run 2 back sets every single down this year. Mark it down... You heard it here first.

No I didn't, I heard it from all the Jay groupies that beat off to him every night before bed.

Northman · 08-03-2009, 07:39 PM

McD lies, Jay Culter lies, Bowlen lies. Who cares.

mwill07 · 08-03-2009, 07:45 PM

mods> any way that any mention of a particular bears qb gets that post sent directly to some purgatory forum? Maybe set up the auto-filter to change "cutler" to "bears QB"?

the c-word is out of control here.

TIA

mwill07 · 08-03-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The MVPlaya

McD said they don't run many 2 back sets in the interview today...

that's what I remember reading about him...any hope that he comes around?

Tombstone RJ · 08-03-2009, 07:50 PM

Actually, I think McD said they will employ the 2 back set...

BroncoMan4ever · 08-03-2009, 09:10 PM

one thing i am curious with Hillis is if he is being lined up as a receiver, slot guy or TE, or is he just exclusively coming out of the backfield?

because with the not running a lot of 2-Back sets it seems more likely that Hillis would be lined up out of the backfield, but i haven't heard anything about that yet

tnedator · 08-03-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever

one thing i am curious with Hillis is if he is being lined up as a receiver, slot guy or TE, or is he just exclusively coming out of the backfield?

because with the not running a lot of 2-Back sets it seems more likely that Hillis would be lined up out of the backfield, but i haven't heard anything about that yet

I'm curious about this as well. Will they be motioning him in or out of the backfield, or will he be primarily be lining up at TE or out wide when not the RB.

footstepsfrom#27 · 08-03-2009, 09:55 PM

Supposedly McD's strength is utilizing the talent to fit the system and changing things up from week to week, so if that's true he'd be crazy to leave Hillis on the bench as nothing more than a backup RB (assuming Moreno starts) because this guy's just to versatile and talented not to be on the field.

mwill07 · 08-03-2009, 10:06 PM

well, the other thing he could do is bring Hillis in situationally and spell Moreno, RBBC style - 3rd & short, goal line, etc

That might have some merit as Hillis would come in well rested, but I think I'd be a little disappointed if he didn't have a bigger role than that.

footstepsfrom#27 · 08-03-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mwill07

well, the other thing he could do is bring Hillis in situationally and spell Moreno, RBBC style - 3rd & short, goal line, etc

That might have some merit as Hillis would come in well rested, but I think I'd be a little disappointed if he didn't have a bigger role than that.

I'd like to see Hillis in a role with about 12 carries and 5 catches a game. It just seems a shame not to have him and Moreno on the field at the same time.

BroncoDoug · 08-03-2009, 10:59 PM

Hillis is indeed the starting Fullback, and they did run two back sets a few times in camp today, with an offset I formation. Hillis and Buckhalter... Devastation followed as imagined....

BroncoMan4ever · 08-03-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Doug

Hillis is indeed the starting Fullback, and they did run two back sets a few times in camp today, with an offset I formation. Hillis and Buckhalter... Devastation followed as imagined....

the 2-back set i want to see is Larsen at FB and Hillis at TB. imagine the carnage that would ensue on that run

in fact if i was calling the shots, that would be my goal line lineup. Graham and Quinn in as blocking TE, Marshall out wide, for the option to possibly pass, and our 2 badass FBs knocking dudes through the turf

Caveat Lector · 08-04-2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever

the 2-back set i want to see is Larsen at FB and Hillis at TB. imagine the carnage that would ensue on that run

in fact if i was calling the shots, that would be my goal line lineup. Graham and Quinn in as blocking TE, Marshall out wide, for the option to possibly pass, and our 2 badass FBs knocking dudes through the turf

That's a hell of a lot of beef coming at you right there.

Unfortunately if Jordan is still around, I envision him as the goal line tail back, with Hillis as the blocker/swing man ala Kevin Faulk...

montrose · 08-04-2009, 02:55 AM

They have been using some 2-back sets with Hillis at FB (as well as Larsen). They've also split Hillis out wide. The formations most used in camp thus far have been (in order):

1) 2 TE's (Graham and Scheffler), 2 WR's (Gaffney and Royal) and 1 RB (Jordan/Buckhalter/Hillis)
2) 1 TE (Graham), 3 WR's (Gaffney, Royal and Stokley) and 1 RB (Jordan/Buckhalter/Hillis)
3) 1 TE (Graham), 2 WR's (Gaffney and Royal) and 2 RB's (Jordan/Buckhalter and Hillis)
4) 1 FB/TE Split Wide (Hillis/Scheffler), 3 WR's (Gaffney, Royal and Stokley) and 1 RB (Jordan/Buckhalter)
5) 2 TE's (Graham and Scheffler), 1 WR (Gaffney) and 2 RB's (Jordan/Buckhalter and Hillis)

mwill07 · 08-04-2009, 05:41 AM

montrose> thanks. Perfect info.

Broncoman13 · 08-04-2009, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mwill07

for those of you in camp - I know that Hillis has been getting some reps @ tailback. Does it look like he will get any action @ FB? Will we even run many plays w/ 2 backs in the backfield?

Seems to me that Hillis's best chance to contribute this year is in a 2 back set, and if I'm McD, I'd make sure that happens.

I pointed out the one time I've seen it during camp to SoCal on Sunday Morning. It was a two TE, one WR, two back set. The put a TE in motion if memory serves and it ended up being a pass. Lamont Jordan was at RB and Hillis at FB. Scheff and Graham the TEs. Stokely the WR... I think. Anyhow, I remember it b/c I said that it was an interesting formation to throw form.

Broncoman13 · 08-04-2009, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

I'd like to see Hillis in a role with about 12 carries and 5 catches a game. It just seems a shame not to have him and Moreno on the field at the same time.

This is where I'm at too. I don't think it will be quite that many touches, but 8 carries and 4 catches would do the trick. Oh, and I don't think we're gonna have to worry about Hillis seeing the field. They can put him at WR and he would do well. The kid is just phenomenal.

I know there was a long article about him and Nutt from their Arkansas days. I didn't read it, can anybody give me the cliff notes version? Seems like it was saying that he was a bad kid or something... I've seen nothing but a good, god fearing, superb athlete myself.

08-03-2009, 07:28 PM	#1
mwill07 Ring of Famer Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,195 Adopt-a-Bronco: VMFM	2 back formations? for those of you in camp - I know that Hillis has been getting some reps @ tailback. Does it look like he will get any action @ FB? Will we even run many plays w/ 2 backs in the backfield? Seems to me that Hillis's best chance to contribute this year is in a 2 back set, and if I'm McD, I'd make sure that happens.

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08-03-2009, 07:29 PM	#2
The MVPlaya Denver Broncos out with the old, IN WITH THE NEW Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 5,384	McD said they don't run many 2 back sets in the interview today...

08-03-2009, 07:38 PM	#4
Northman The Enigma Prognosis Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,925 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bryci	What the camp reporters have not clued you in about is the monster they got in that formation. Aside from the greatness of Hillis they have the Tank ( backup punter from last year) who is going create holes the size of texas. He is the ultimate weapon of weapons. Be prepared. They havent mentioned him yet because he hasnt come off the bench after eating all the donuts.

08-03-2009, 07:39 PM	#6
Northman The Enigma Prognosis Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,925 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bryci	McD lies, Jay Culter lies, Bowlen lies. Who cares.

08-03-2009, 07:45 PM	#7
mwill07 Ring of Famer Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,195 Adopt-a-Bronco: VMFM	mods> any way that any mention of a particular bears qb gets that post sent directly to some purgatory forum? Maybe set up the auto-filter to change "cutler" to "bears QB"? the c-word is out of control here. TIA

08-03-2009, 07:50 PM	#9
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,313 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	Actually, I think McD said they will employ the 2 back set...

08-03-2009, 09:10 PM	#10
BroncoMan4ever Ring of Famer Here to chew bubblegum and kick ass Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 11,575 Adopt-a-Bronco: VIRGIL GREEN!!!	one thing i am curious with Hillis is if he is being lined up as a receiver, slot guy or TE, or is he just exclusively coming out of the backfield? because with the not running a lot of 2-Back sets it seems more likely that Hillis would be lined up out of the backfield, but i haven't heard anything about that yet

08-03-2009, 09:55 PM	#12
footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,117 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	Supposedly McD's strength is utilizing the talent to fit the system and changing things up from week to week, so if that's true he'd be crazy to leave Hillis on the bench as nothing more than a backup RB (assuming Moreno starts) because this guy's just to versatile and talented not to be on the field.

08-03-2009, 10:06 PM	#13
mwill07 Ring of Famer Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,195 Adopt-a-Bronco: VMFM	well, the other thing he could do is bring Hillis in situationally and spell Moreno, RBBC style - 3rd & short, goal line, etc That might have some merit as Hillis would come in well rested, but I think I'd be a little disappointed if he didn't have a bigger role than that.

08-03-2009, 10:59 PM	#15
BroncoDoug Ring of Famer R.I.P. D-Will and D-Nash Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Moline, IL Posts: 2,767 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Hillis is indeed the starting Fullback, and they did run two back sets a few times in camp today, with an offset I formation. Hillis and Buckhalter... Devastation followed as imagined....

08-04-2009, 02:55 AM	#18
montrose Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 6,095 Adopt-a-Bronco: VP John Elway	They have been using some 2-back sets with Hillis at FB (as well as Larsen). They've also split Hillis out wide. The formations most used in camp thus far have been (in order): 1) 2 TE's (Graham and Scheffler), 2 WR's (Gaffney and Royal) and 1 RB (Jordan/Buckhalter/Hillis) 2) 1 TE (Graham), 3 WR's (Gaffney, Royal and Stokley) and 1 RB (Jordan/Buckhalter/Hillis) 3) 1 TE (Graham), 2 WR's (Gaffney and Royal) and 2 RB's (Jordan/Buckhalter and Hillis) 4) 1 FB/TE Split Wide (Hillis/Scheffler), 3 WR's (Gaffney, Royal and Stokley) and 1 RB (Jordan/Buckhalter) 5) 2 TE's (Graham and Scheffler), 1 WR (Gaffney) and 2 RB's (Jordan/Buckhalter and Hillis)

08-04-2009, 05:41 AM	#19
mwill07 Ring of Famer Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,195 Adopt-a-Bronco: VMFM	montrose> thanks. Perfect info.