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Gaffney=Stokley 8 18.18%
Stokley>Gaffney 20 45.45%
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Old 07-11-2009, 10:25 AM   #1
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Broncos fans still reeling from the loss of Jay Cutler are now living in fear that the organization will trade Pro Bowl receiver Brandon Marshall.

That Jabar Gaffney has been the man replacing Marshall throughout offseason practices probably won't make them feel any better.

Gaffney, not Mike Shanahan holdover Brandon Stokley, looks poised to be the third man in Denver's wideout rotation if Marshall does return to the team. (Eddie Royal will also start.)

After spending three years in New England with Josh McDaniels, Gaffney knows the offensive system. After watching Gaffney for his seven year career, NFL observers know he's hardly a gamebreaker. (He's topped 500 receiving yards once.)

Gaffney was one of McDaniels' first signings in Denver and can be a useful role player. He appears well ahead of other castoff options like Chad Jackson and Brandon Lloyd on the Denver roster.

Still, asking him to replace Marshall would be asking for a mediocre passing game. And a lot of angry Broncos fans.

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Old 07-11-2009, 10:29 AM   #2
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IMO Gaffney=Stokley, but is a lot younger and already knows the system. They should both get playing time though in this offense regardless of if BM is in orange and blue or not.
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Three years ago, Stokley. Now, I'm not sure about that. Stokley is 33 and has had an Achilles injury. There isn't a whole lot left in those tanks. His game has always been speed and quickness and the team has had keep reducing is reps to keep him healthy. I would pencil him in on my "surprise" cuts list at the end of camp.
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If next year someone has to give us a 1st and a third for BM (resistricted FA with a 1st round tender), what does that equate to today using the draft value chart? A 2nd and a 4th? Or only a 1st?
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By the way, your poll is pretty unfair. On who is better you have

Stokley > Gaffney
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Did you intend to make it impossible to pick Gaffney as superior?
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they play diff positions. this is assuming the starting lineup only has 2 WR, i think a very high % of pats plays are in 3wr so its a pointless argument.
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By the way, your poll is pretty unfair. On who is better you have

Stokley > Gaffney
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Did you intend to make it impossible to pick Gaffney as superior?
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they play diff positions. this is assuming the starting lineup only has 2 WR, i think a very high % of pats plays are in 3wr so its a pointless argument.
I was assuming the both were in the slot. Isn't that what Gaffney played for the pats with Moss and Welker?

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I was assuming the both were in te slot. Isn't that what Gaffney played for the pats with Moss and Welker?
all this gaffney as starter stuff assumes that marshall has been traded, the gazette paper which sparked pft and rotoworld to make reports as gaffney starting. i thought gaffney was coming in as the 4th receiver leaving stokely in the slot and royal on his 5 yard crossing route that he will get thrown to 10000 times this year.
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Gaffney is a better fit as a starter across from Royal. Having two sup-6' WRs is not optimal for a short passing game, so Gaffney is a better fit even if his hands and route running is not as good Stokleys.
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I was assuming the both were in the slot. Isn't that what Gaffney played for the pats with Moss and Welker?
Gaffney was outside. Welker was in the slot. NE base formation is a 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB set.
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Gaffney was outside. Welker was in the slot. NE base formation is a 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB set.
Except that every receiver plays every position and is moved around. There are no "pure" slot guys in this offense. Even Welker plays outside quite a bit.
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Gaffney was outside. Welker was in the slot. NE base formation is a 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB set.
So the plan assumng BM stays here is to have Royal in the slot like Welker?
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gaffney blows. this is just depressing.
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I'm OK with Gaffney as a 3rd. He knows the system and is younger than Stokely. On top of that a 4 wide set of Bmarsh, Royal, Gaffney, and Stokely with Hillis or Moreno testing the flats is a massive problem for an opposing defense.

Let's just hope he isn't a replacement for Marshall...
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I'm OK with Gaffney as a 3rd. He knows the system and is younger than Stokely. On top of that a 4 wide set of Bmarsh, Royal, Gaffney, and Stokely with Hillis or Moreno testing the flats is a massive problem for an opposing defense.

Let's just hope he isn't a replacement for Marshall...
We have so many weapons to throw to now it is kinda scary...BM, Royal, Gaffney, Stokley, Sheffler, Hillis, Moreno. It will be interesting to see what kind of formations we will useto take advantage of this. I know that McD likes a big TE, but Sheff is a weapon! We have 7 weapons and only 5 spots...
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If next year someone has to give us a 1st and a third for BM (resistricted FA with a 1st round tender), what does that equate to today using the draft value chart? A 2nd and a 4th? Or only a 1st?
Well since the '09 draft has already passed us, and that 1st and 3rd would be in the next draft in '10, I'm guessing it would equate out to a 1st and 3rd per the draft pick value chart.

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Another quality post from PFT.

Marshall is holding out and so the guy who knows the system the best is lining up as a starter before camp starts. That is just incredible reporting right there. I'm sure when NBC execs read stuff like that, they just hear the cash register ring because of the ROI.

Bronco fans would be angry that Gaffney starts? No ****? The analysis there is just so deep.

Marshall, Royal, Stokley, Gaffney, Lloyd + whoever else they want to keep- one of the best WR corps in the NFL

Royal, Gaffney, Stokley, Lloyd + whoever else they keep- not one of the best WR corps in the NFL

After looking at that, I have no clue why Broncos fans would be angry that Gaffney is the starter.
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Stokley is better, but he can't play as much, certainly not as a #1 or a #2 - witness his decline in production when he was forced into that role in 2007 when Rod was done and all we had was Marshall.
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Gaffney has been a nice #3 option for NE. He'll amount to something similar for us. It'll be nice to have someone experienced in the system out there. That said, I think Stokley will also be effective, depending on his health.

As I've reminded people before, this system is less about one "star" receiver and more about distribution and options for the QB. NE won Superbowls before they had Welker/Moss.... and they won them with receivers like Troy Brown and Dion Branch.

I expect that the batch of WRs we have will do very nicely... better with Marshall, but still very well without him.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Stokely is cut come training camp. Remember they wanted Anderson from Houston.
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I want to see McKinley emerge as the #3 by the end of the year.
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They're playing the Pats/Raiders AFFCG on NFLN right now.

Check the winning FG drive. Features the biggest plays by JR Redmond and Jermain Wiggins. The prior drive featured its biggest plays by David Patten and of course, Kevin Faulk.

This offense gets the ball in a lot of hands, folks. Having talented WRs is a must, but like our running game under Shanahan, the theory with this offense is that it can work (to some degree) without mega-stars at every receiver spot.

Again, it's about distribution and options for the QB.
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I want to see McKinley emerge as the #3 by the end of the year.
I think that is the dream. Gaffney, Jackson, and Llyod are all stop gaps.
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