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Old 07-10-2009, 11:21 AM   #1
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Default Broncos need to take charge in Marshall flap

The Denver Broncos aren't sure what happens next with wide receiver Brandon Marshall. He skipped a mandatory minicamp, wants a new contract and once told local police he has as much affection for Denver as Al Davis does for Mike Shanahan. Moreover, Marshall's agent said the disgruntled star wants out and that the Broncos will try to accommodate him.

There is something wrong with this picture. This is not about doing what is best for Brandon Marshall. This is about doing what is best for the Denver Broncos.

And what is best for Denver is nothing. You heard me. Squat. The Broncos don't make a move here because there is no decision to make.

I don't care if Marshall is unhappy. I don't care if he doesn't like the new coaching staff. I don't give a flip whether he doesn't report to training camp, demands to be traded or doesn't play a down this season. What I do care about is the 52 other guys who fill the Broncos' roster, and so should new coach Josh McDaniels.

That's why this one is a no-brainer. If the organization caves in and gives Marshall what he wants -- which, I imagine, is a one-way ticket out of town -- every malcontent, every guy who isn't starting and every El demando who doesn't get his way will want the same thing, citing Marshall and Jay Cutler as role models.

Cutler was the Broncos' starting quarterback until he demanded a trade. Denver complied, and he's now the starting quarterback in Chicago. Fine. Denver decided it wanted someone it could trust at the most important position, and that someone was not Cutler. So it traded for Kyle Orton and draft picks.

I guess Marshall figured if he complained loud enough he might get the same treatment. But Marshall doesn't play the most important position on the team, and Marshall isn't the guy the rest of the club looks to for direction. If he were, there would be a traffic jam at the security checkpoints at Denver International.

Anyway, my point is this: Keeping Marshall has less to do with what he gives the Broncos on the field than the reverberations his exit could make with the rest of the team. San Diego general manager A.J. Smith is fond of saying that players and agents don't run clubs; owners, general managers and coaches do. And he is more than willing to offer a demonstration to anyone bold enough to challenge him.

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http://www.cbssports.com/print/nfl/story/11934745
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:26 AM   #2
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Imagine a front office of A.J. Smith and McBeavis.

It would be worse than Hitler and Himmler.
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There is something wrong with this picture. This is not about doing what is best for Brandon Marshall. This is about doing what is best for the Denver Broncos.

And what is best for Denver is nothing. You heard me. Squat. The Broncos don't make a move here because there is no decision to make.
I'll buy that ... and who was making the point (and a great point it is) that as an RFA next year, another team would have to give up a 1st and 3rd to get him? So the bidding starts there, a 1st and 3rd ... and nobody's gonna pay that.

So yeah, the article is right: we do squat.
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Imagine a front office of A.J. Smith and McBeavis.

It would be worse than Hitler and Himmler.
Why exactly does everybody hate A.J. Smith?

Seems to me he's assembled a pretty excellent, even awesome roster
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Why exactly does everybody hate A.J. Smith?

Seems to me he's assembled a pretty excellent, even awesome roster
he may be one of teh top drafting GMs in the league. but hes a huge dbag
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Why exactly does everybody hate A.J. Smith?

Seems to me he's assembled a pretty excellent, even awesome roster
Because he is a Charger?
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Seems to me he's assembled a pretty excellent, even awesome roster
that happens by default when you pick in the top 5 for more than a decade.
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I'll buy that ... and who was making the point (and a great point it is) that as an RFA next year, another team would have to give up a 1st and 3rd to get him? So the bidding starts there, a 1st and 3rd ... and nobody's gonna pay that.

So yeah, the article is right: we do squat.
i agree. plus it looks good in our favor. TC starts in a few weeks, we tell Marshall we looked into offers for you, but no one was willing to pay what we feel you are worth to our team. He comes to camp after maybe a few skipped days and we move on, and by midseason we offer him a new deal.

there are only 2 ways this should end. we make him play 1 more year for us and tender him with a 1st and 3rd

or

we do nothing and re-sign him long term before the season ends

either way, we end up with either a great receiver or great compensation for him
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that happens by default when you pick in the top 5 for more than a decade.
*cough* LIONS *cough*
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What a phenomenally accurate article.
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he's really the only piece of sh** on the current roster; a roster that used to have quite a few.
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The Denver Broncos aren't sure what happens next with wide receiver Brandon Marshall. He skipped a mandatory minicamp, wants a new contract and once told local police he has as much affection for Denver as Al Davis does for Mike Shanahan. Moreover, Marshall's agent said the disgruntled star wants out and that the Broncos will try to accommodate him.

There is something wrong with this picture. This is not about doing what is best for Brandon Marshall. This is about doing what is best for the Denver Broncos.

And what is best for Denver is nothing. You heard me. Squat. The Broncos don't make a move here because there is no decision to make.

I don't care if Marshall is unhappy. I don't care if he doesn't like the new coaching staff. I don't give a flip whether he doesn't report to training camp, demands to be traded or doesn't play a down this season. What I do care about is the 52 other guys who fill the Broncos' roster, and so should new coach Josh McDaniels.

That's why this one is a no-brainer. If the organization caves in and gives Marshall what he wants -- which, I imagine, is a one-way ticket out of town -- every malcontent, every guy who isn't starting and every El demando who doesn't get his way will want the same thing, citing Marshall and Jay Cutler as role models.

Cutler was the Broncos' starting quarterback until he demanded a trade. Denver complied, and he's now the starting quarterback in Chicago. Fine. Denver decided it wanted someone it could trust at the most important position, and that someone was not Cutler. So it traded for Kyle Orton and draft picks.

I guess Marshall figured if he complained loud enough he might get the same treatment. But Marshall doesn't play the most important position on the team, and Marshall isn't the guy the rest of the club looks to for direction. If he were, there would be a traffic jam at the security checkpoints at Denver International.

Anyway, my point is this: Keeping Marshall has less to do with what he gives the Broncos on the field than the reverberations his exit could make with the rest of the team. San Diego general manager A.J. Smith is fond of saying that players and agents don't run clubs; owners, general managers and coaches do. And he is more than willing to offer a demonstration to anyone bold enough to challenge him.

Read the rest here:

http://www.cbssports.com/print/nfl/story/11934745
I guess MCKYD is taking charge like he did in the Cutler debacle and going to trade him. At this point it really doesn't matter. I could really see Marshall being a distraction on a 4-12 team. Might as well trade him for a 2nd rounder.
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I guess MCKYD is taking charge like he did in the Cutler debacle and going to trade him. At this point it really doesn't matter. I could really see Marshall being a distraction on a 4-12 team. Might as well trade him for a 2nd rounder.
theyd prolly be better off just cutting him and relocating the team to london.
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theyd prolly be better off just cutting him and relocating the team to london.
I don't see how that would help, but thanks for your input.
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I don't see how that would help, but thanks for your input.
then they wouldnt even need to bother playing the season, since its already over and everything.
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I guess MCKYD is taking charge like he did in the Cutler debacle and going to trade him. At this point it really doesn't matter. I could really see Marshall being a distraction on a 4-12 team. Might as well trade him for a 2nd rounder.
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then they wouldnt even need to bother playing the season, since its already over and everything.
So when the prediction thread comes out you're not going to make a prediction? You're above that?

Hey, if the Broncos go 5-11 this year they'll have done better than I thought and I'll be happy.
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he's really the only piece of sh** on the current roster; a roster that used to have quite a few.
so randy moss is a great big piece of **** and your point is ?
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*cough* LIONS *cough*
That's the Millen Effect. a normal team picking top 5 for around a decade should load a team with stars at different positions. Not 4 of those top 5 picks at the same position.
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I guess MCKYD is taking charge like he did in the Cutler debacle and going to trade him. At this point it really doesn't matter. I could really see Marshall being a distraction on a 4-12 team. Might as well trade him for a 2nd rounder.
**** that! let him be a punk b**** for a year, he has to come in and play his ass off for us anyway if he wants his FA money. he can't afford to sit out and hope teams will throw money at him for being a distraction on and off the field. he has to get to camp show what he can do on the field, and stay out of trouble to get his money.

and if he doesn't want to be here, so be it. we get all we can for him for 1 more year, and next offseason tender him at a 1st and 3rd and get all we can for him. if next season we can get a 1st and 3rd for him, we can't trade him now for anything less.

i say stand firm with him, make him realize he has no option but to show up, see how he handles himself with the new coach and system, see if he is staying out of trouble and if he is, by midseason offer him a new deal. if he refuses, say thanks for your service here, tender him 1st and 3rd next offseason and move on.
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Anyway, my point is this: Keeping Marshall has less to do with what he gives the Broncos on the field than the reverberations his exit could make with the rest of the team. San Diego general manager A.J. Smith is fond of saying that players and agents don't run clubs; owners, general managers and coaches do. And he is more than willing to offer a demonstration to anyone bold enough to challenge him.
I love how when I bring that up RE Cutler, the other side of the fence screams that that's not true and that he forced the FO into action despite saying he'd show up for mandatory activities. Yet, now in this Marshall situation, they all rush to it and say "we have the leverage".

Make up your ****ing minds kids.
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I love how when I bring that up RE Cutler, the other side of the fence screams that that's not true and that he forced the FO into action despite saying he'd show up for mandatory activities. Yet, now in this Marshall situation, they all rush to it and say "we have the leverage".

Make up your ****ing minds kids.
most of us agree that cutler shouldnt be traded, and if WE personally ran teh team, probably would not have traded him. however, he personally insulted the owner of the team, the guy who signed his checks, and thus was delivered a one way sentence to the QB killer town. mcdaniels did not order the jay cutler trade, by most accounts he was gonna let it die down and talk with jay cutler during ota's etc.
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**** that! let him be a punk b**** for a year, he has to come in and play his ass off for us anyway if he wants his FA money. he can't afford to sit out and hope teams will throw money at him for being a distraction on and off the field. he has to get to camp show what he can do on the field, and stay out of trouble to get his money.

and if he doesn't want to be here, so be it. we get all we can for him for 1 more year, and next offseason tender him at a 1st and 3rd and get all we can for him. if next season we can get a 1st and 3rd for him, we can't trade him now for anything less.

i say stand firm with him, make him realize he has no option but to show up, see how he handles himself with the new coach and system, see if he is staying out of trouble and if he is, by midseason offer him a new deal. if he refuses, say thanks for your service here, tender him 1st and 3rd next offseason and move on.
He can play his ASS off, get great stats and still be a huge distraction for the team... IE T.O. IE Chad Johnson.
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