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Old 07-09-2009, 11:21 AM   #1
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what about brian brohm? i mentioned it in another thread, he is #3 on packers depth chart, wouldnt he be good for a trade? i dont know much about him except he fell on draft day to round 2 and never has a shot in green bay...
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:23 AM   #2
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Depends on who our coach is next year.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:32 AM   #3
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what about brian brohm? i mentioned it in another thread, he is #3 on packers depth chart, wouldnt he be good for a trade? i dont know much about him except he fell on draft day to round 2 and never has a shot in green bay...
i really liked Brohm coming out of college. i thought he had the tools to be the best in his draft class. and he is pretty close to the prototype QB that McDaniels likes in his system. i'd be for it. but even if we got him, he still wouldn't play until 2010 at the soonest.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:43 AM   #4
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I liked Brohm in college as well.

But.... If he can't even push Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay, why would I expect him to amount to anything in Denver.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:44 AM   #5
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If we lose and it's obviously because of our QB's... I doubt McDaniels will have a much to do with who our next QB is.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:46 AM   #6
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A QB nobody else wants is not the answer. We already have several of those.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:49 AM   #7
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If we lose and it's obviously because of our QB's... I doubt McDaniels will have a much to do with who our next QB is.
I bet he gets a 2nd year unless we pull a 2-14 or,GULP, worse.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:51 AM   #8
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I'm with Herc on this one. There's no way in hell that Pat Bowlen is going to carry three coaches next season, even if McDaniels tanks and has a one win season.

I suppose the caveat is that Mike Shanahan could be hired as early as late this season - but more likely early next season. But I think Bowlen has his HOF credentials riding on McDaniels and is going to give him every opportunity to succeed.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:52 AM   #9
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I liked Brohm in college as well.

But.... If he can't even push Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay, why would I expect him to amount to anything in Denver.
Have you watched Rodgers play? He's really good.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:53 AM   #10
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I bet he gets a 2nd year unless we pull a 2-14 or,GULP, worse.
I agree the odds of him being fired after this season are VERY slim. But if it goes 3-13 or 4-12 ugly and Orton stinks up the joint (and our new franchise QB is sitting there when Seattle is on the clock)... Bowlen may not have much of a choice.
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I'm with Herc on this one. There's no way in hell that Pat Bowlen is going to carry three coaches next season, even if McDaniels tanks and has a one win season.

I suppose the caveat is that Mike Shanahan could be hired as early as late this season - but more likely early next season. But I think Bowlen has his HOF credentials riding on McDaniels and is going to give him every opportunity to succeed.
Shanahan WILL be coaching next season... Pat will be off the hook for his salary.
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I kind of hope that San Diego does well enough for Norv to keep his job next season. I'd absolutely loathe a situation where Shanahan ends up coaching the Chargers.
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I kind of hope that San Diego does well enough for Norv to keep his job next season. I'd absolutely loathe a situation where Shanahan ends up coaching the Chargers.
Ugghhh... My guess is he will end up in Dallas or Washington. With his ties to Chicago and Cutler he could end up a bear if things don't go well this season.
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I kind of hope that San Diego does well enough for Norv to keep his job next season. I'd absolutely loathe a situation where Shanahan ends up coaching the Chargers.
I'd cry myself to sleep for a week. Minimum.
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I agree the odds of him being fired after this season are VERY slim. But if it goes 3-13 or 4-12 ugly and Orton stinks up the joint (and our new franchise QB is sitting there when Seattle is on the clock)... Bowlen may not have much of a choice.
Don't get me started on that bullsheat----so MANY questionable moves from someone so UNPROVEN. I hope that our defense becomes a turnover machine this year, ala the 2000 season.that will give us a fighting chance.........
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I liked Brohm in college as well.

But.... If he can't even push Matt Flynn in Green Bay, why would I expect him to amount to anything in Denver.
I corrected it for you.
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I kind of hope that San Diego does well enough for Norv to keep his job next season. I'd absolutely loathe a situation where Shanahan ends up coaching the Chargers.
I can't see that happening. Shanahan wants full power over the team and San Diego has a GM. The two will not get along, kind of like Marty.
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Don't get me started on that bullsheat----so MANY questionable moves from someone so UNPROVEN. I hope that our defense becomes a turnover machine this year, ala the 2000 season.that will give us a fighting chance.........
I have the most trouble figuring out the Cutler trade combined with the trade of our 1st.

If you trade the QB and are going into a rebuilding mode... fine. Then you keep our 1st.

If your not in a rebuilding mode and you are trying to win now... fine. Then you don't trade the QB.


I just can't figure that combo out.
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Old 07-09-2009, 12:27 PM   #19
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I'd be pretty surprised if McDaniels couldn't make a respectable QB out of one of these guys. Considering what he did with Cassel, I think there's a good possibility he will.

Just a gut feeling, but I think that McD may be QB-friendly in the way Shanahan was, getting the most out of the guys he has. In fact, it sounds to me like McD might even be more detail-oriented as far as being hands-on with the QBs. I always felt like Cutler suffered with mechanics and didn't look like he was being coached properly, at times.

We'll see, but I'm optimistic about our offensive production. I'm much more concerned about the massive job of fixing the broken defense the new staff inherited.
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I kind of hope that San Diego does well enough for Norv to keep his job next season. I'd absolutely loathe a situation where Shanahan ends up coaching the Chargers.

I thought about this also. The problem with that scenario is the San Diego GM would have to fire himself to give Shanahan the job. No way is Shanahan taking a job unless he has complete control.
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I suppose the caveat is that Mike Shanahan could be hired as early as late this season - but more likely early next season. But I think Bowlen has his HOF credentials riding on McDaniels and is going to give him every opportunity to succeed.
I disagree taco, I mean his HOF credentials will take a hit if the team is going to be picking in the top 5. If it does get to that point where the Broncos are picking in the top 5, I don't see Bowlen owning the team much longer. In this economic climate, the financial aspect of the Business could be falling apart and force Bowlen to cut his losses and walk away.
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I'd be pretty surprised if McDaniels couldn't make a respectable QB out of one of these guys. Considering what he did with Cassel, I think there's a good possibility he will.

Just a gut feeling, but I think that McD may be QB-friendly in the way Shanahan was, getting the most out of the guys he has. In fact, it sounds to me like McD might even be more detail-oriented as far as being hands-on with the QBs. I always felt like Cutler suffered with mechanics and didn't look like he was being coached properly, at times.

We'll see, but I'm optimistic about our offensive production. I'm much more concerned about the massive job of fixing the broken defense the new staff inherited.

let us not forget Cassel had spent like 4 years learning/using and knew that "complicated" system foward and backwards
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Ive talked about Brohm before the draft 100 times,he fell off the conversation when McD passed on him.

But if the Broncos are looking for a QB via trade I'll highly recommend Matt Moore I believe his the 2nd or 3rd QB on the panthers roster.The man has a very quick release and a strong arm.
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