Champ on Cutler - The Orange Mane

mr007 · 07-07-2009, 04:59 PM

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotr...ay-cutler.html

Marc Silverman and Jeff Dickerson from ESPN 1000 radio Chicago interviewed Denver Broncos defensive back Champ Bailey on the Waddle & Silvy show Monday. Bailey was asked where he thought new Bears quarterback Jay Cutler ranked among the top quarterbacks in the league.

``Well he’s definitely in the top 10 as far as what he’s done to this point,'' Bailey said. ``Now where he can be, he can be the best in the game, he has that ability. The guys very smart, very sharp, a good arm; he has all the stuff you’d want. He reminds me of a Marino, Elway type of guy, and he’s going to be a great winner for them. It’s unfortunate for us that we had to lose a guy like that, but we’ve got to move on, we’ve got some quality guys back there that can definitely get the job done so we’ve just got to go out and handle business as necessary.''

Bailey was asked if he ever questioned Cutler as a leader.

``No, not at all,'' he said. ``That’s one thing about him, he’s not a shouter, but when he gets upset and he knows we’ve got to get going he opens his mouth. I appreciate that from him, I’d rather have a guy that leads by example than a guy that talks all the time.''

And Bailey's thoughts on the trade?

``The possibility was a shock, but once in sunk in a little bit, that’s just the nature of the NFL, you never know,'' he said. ``You see guys leaving here, look at Jason Taylor, he left, a number five all decade guy, you never thought he’d leave Miami, but it just happens.''

footstepsfrom#27 · 07-07-2009, 05:02 PM

How would he know?

elsid13 · 07-07-2009, 05:09 PM

But I thought Cutler wasn't a leader.

SouthStndJunkie · 07-07-2009, 05:12 PM

Sounds like Champ thinks trading Cutler was as stupid of a move as I thought it was.

sirhcyennek81 · 07-07-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

But I thought Cutler wasn't a leader.

You read an article where a leader was quoted.

mr007 · 07-07-2009, 05:17 PM

Yeah, odd that our best player on the team doesn't call him a mopey drunk.

BroncoBuff · 07-07-2009, 05:18 PM

HEY POPPS! WE FOUND ONE GUY WHO WENT ON THE RECORD!

You owe Taco an apology.

DBroncos4life · 07-07-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

HEY POPPS! WE FOUND ONE GUY WHO WENT ON THE RECORD!

You owe Taco an apology.

Ever see a dude give birth to a cow? Better chance of that happening then popps ever admitting he lost a battle.

Hamrob · 07-07-2009, 05:25 PM

One guy? If you ever watch the NFL Channel...I'd say it includes their entire cast. Then of course, don't forget the Duke, who said that he thought it was very disapointing that they let him go.

Let's face it...unless your Champ Bailey...you're not going to say anything to rock the boat...if you're a current player.

It's done...let's move on. But, let's at least be honest....it was a idiotic move to let a talent like that walk away!

SleepingTiger · 07-07-2009, 05:25 PM

shocking.... who would think Cutler is a great player and good leader. after reading the mane for the past several months, i thought he was a cancer.

~Crash~ · 07-07-2009, 05:25 PM

In time the cutler trade will be named off as a all time blunder .

Popps · 07-07-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Ever see a dude give birth to a cow? Better chance of that happening then popps ever admitting he lost a battle.

Sorry, did Champ bash the organization or say the team was in shambles, or that we'd been "torn apart?"

Maybe I missed it.

Those are the claims being thrown around by the widows like yourself. Yet, we haven't heard it from any players.

Champ made some nice, safe, vanilla statements about Cutler... which is absolutely irrelevant to the claims that the team is in disarray and on the verge of mutiny, as you and your fellow clucking hens claim.

Good try, though.

Popps · 07-07-2009, 05:26 PM

"It’s unfortunate for us that we had to lose a guy like that, but we’ve got to move on, we’ve got some quality guys back there that can definitely get the job done so we’ve just got to go out and handle business as necessary"

Wow, maybe that's code for "the team is being torn apart."

Keep crying over spilled milk, ya bunch of losers.

Drek · 07-07-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

HEY POPPS! WE FOUND ONE GUY WHO WENT ON THE RECORD!

You owe Taco an apology.

That or Champ has just moved on and he's not going to piss in another dude's cheerios just because they're now on different teams.

You know, something 95% of this board needs to learn to do. Jay Cutler doesn't play for the Broncos, so short of how much he can help the Bears lose next year, I don't give two ****s. Many people on this forum still haven't come to grips with that reality.

~Crash~ · 07-07-2009, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

"It’s unfortunate for us that we had to lose a guy like that, but we’ve got to move on, we’ve got some quality guys back there that can definitely get the job done so we’ve just got to go out and handle business as necessary"

Wow, maybe that's code for "the team is being torn apart."

Keep crying over spilled milk, ya bunch of losers.

no calling people childish names kind makes you a loser ....

mr007 · 07-07-2009, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

"It’s unfortunate for us that we had to lose a guy like that, but we’ve got to move on, we’ve got some quality guys back there that can definitely get the job done so we’ve just got to go out and handle business as necessary"

Wow, maybe that's code for "the team is being torn apart."

Keep crying over spilled milk, ya bunch of losers.

You do know he said he could be the best in the game, right? His vanilla statement is all he could possibly say without causing publicity issues.

BroncoBuff · 07-07-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

Champ made some nice, safe, vanilla statements about Cutler....

I don't know what kind of vanilla you get over there wherever you are, but those were pretty clearly statements of respect, admiration and regret:

"He reminds me of a Marino, Elway type of guy, and he’s
going to be a great winner for them. It’s unfortunate for
us that we had to lose a guy like that."

Nothing vanilla about that ... that's a salute to a former teammate. I agree that he's not saying the current team is in disarray or anything like that, but he definitely admires the kid, and regrets losing him.

Popps · 07-07-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mr007

You do know he said he could be the best in the game, right? His vanilla statement is all he could possibly say without causing publicity issues.

Or, maybe Champ has too much class to call him out.

Of course Quitler could be one of the best. He's got immense physical talent.

This is a news-flash to you?

Champ stated the obvious, played it safe and avoided controversy. Typical Champ. Classy, smart.

He also said the team would move on. He probably should have advised that some fans do the same.

SouthStndJunkie · 07-07-2009, 05:44 PM

Just imagine if Champ would have called out Cutler and insinuated that it was a good move to trade him and stated he was a poor leader....the anti-Cutler camp would be throwing a party right now.

Champ could have very easily said nothing....looks to me like he wanted to make his opinion known.

Maybe he is the next Bronco looking for a ticket out of town....

Popps · 07-07-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

Just imagine if Champ would have called out Cutler and insinuated that it was a good move to trade him and that stated he was a poor leader....the anti-Cutler camp would be throwing a party right now.

Champ could have very easily said nothing....looks to me like he wanted to make his opinion known.

Maybe he is the next Bronco looking for a ticket out of town....

Bailey isn't likely to stir the pot. He's generally not that kind of a guy. When asked a question about Cutler, he just gave a string of very safe answers.

Of course, Cutler has immense talent. No news there. Of course, he's got a chance to be great. No news there.

Now, on the leadership issue... what would Bailey have to gain from taking a big, public swing at Cutler? I'm not even saying that Champ DOES think Quitler is a punk... but if he did, what's to gain for him by stirring **** up?

Champ is just a classy guy in that regard. He said nice, safe things and rightly so.

Conversely, he said nice, safe things about the organization. So, believe what you want to believe.

elsid13 · 07-07-2009, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

Bailey isn't likely to stir the pot. He's generally not that kind of a guy. When asked a question about Cutler, he just gave a string of very safe answers.

Of course, Cutler has immense talent. No news there. Of course, he's got a chance to be great. No news there.

Now, on the leadership issue... what would Bailey have to gain from taking a big, public swing at Cutler? I'm not even saying that Champ DOES think Quitler is a punk... but if he did, what's to gain for him by stirring **** up?

Champ is just a classy guy in that regard. He said nice, safe things and rightly so.

Conversely, he said nice, safe things about the organization. So, believe what you want to believe.

Actually when Bailey isn't happy he does stir the pot. He forced his way of Washington and had some choice statements on his way out.

Ray Finkle · 07-07-2009, 05:52 PM

Funny....I know a Redskin that is close to Champ and over a beer, we talked about the Cutler issue......If what I heard was correct, Champ sang a different tune when Cutler was traded....

Ray Finkle · 07-07-2009, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elsid13

Actually when Bailey isn't happy he does stir the pot. He forced his way of Washington and had some choice statements on his way out.

BS- He didn't like the way Synder ran the team. The gave him and Lavar similar contracts and told them to sign. Champ declined and was shipped out.

SonOfLe-loLang · 07-07-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Finkle

Funny....I know a Redskin that is close to Champ and over a beer, we talked about the Cutler issue......If what I heard was correct, Champ sang a different tune when Cutler was traded....

Care to elaborate?

Pseudofool · 07-07-2009, 05:59 PM

I'm not sure I buy a veteran defensive players take on a QBs leadership skill.

Since Champ is a lead by example kind of guy, of course he prefers the same, that doesn't mean that's what the team needs.

07-07-2009, 04:59 PM	#1
mr007 I'm not your buddy, guy Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,079 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	Champ on Cutler http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotr...ay-cutler.html Marc Silverman and Jeff Dickerson from ESPN 1000 radio Chicago interviewed Denver Broncos defensive back Champ Bailey on the Waddle & Silvy show Monday. Bailey was asked where he thought new Bears quarterback Jay Cutler ranked among the top quarterbacks in the league. ``Well he’s definitely in the top 10 as far as what he’s done to this point,'' Bailey said. ``Now where he can be, he can be the best in the game, he has that ability. The guys very smart, very sharp, a good arm; he has all the stuff you’d want. He reminds me of a Marino, Elway type of guy, and he’s going to be a great winner for them. It’s unfortunate for us that we had to lose a guy like that, but we’ve got to move on, we’ve got some quality guys back there that can definitely get the job done so we’ve just got to go out and handle business as necessary.'' Bailey was asked if he ever questioned Cutler as a leader. ``No, not at all,'' he said. ``That’s one thing about him, he’s not a shouter, but when he gets upset and he knows we’ve got to get going he opens his mouth. I appreciate that from him, I’d rather have a guy that leads by example than a guy that talks all the time.'' And Bailey's thoughts on the trade? ``The possibility was a shock, but once in sunk in a little bit, that’s just the nature of the NFL, you never know,'' he said. ``You see guys leaving here, look at Jason Taylor, he left, a number five all decade guy, you never thought he’d leave Miami, but it just happens.''

07-07-2009, 05:44 PM	#19
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,370	Just imagine if Champ would have called out Cutler and insinuated that it was a good move to trade him and stated he was a poor leader....the anti-Cutler camp would be throwing a party right now. Champ could have very easily said nothing....looks to me like he wanted to make his opinion known. Maybe he is the next Bronco looking for a ticket out of town.... Last edited by SouthStndJunkie; 07-07-2009 at 05:47 PM..

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07-07-2009, 05:02 PM	#2
footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,126 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	How would he know?

07-07-2009, 05:09 PM	#3
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,139	But I thought Cutler wasn't a leader.

07-07-2009, 05:12 PM	#4
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,370	Sounds like Champ thinks trading Cutler was as stupid of a move as I thought it was.

07-07-2009, 05:17 PM	#6
mr007 I'm not your buddy, guy Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,079 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	Yeah, odd that our best player on the team doesn't call him a mopey drunk.

07-07-2009, 05:18 PM	#7
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,472 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	HEY POPPS! WE FOUND ONE GUY WHO WENT ON THE RECORD! You owe Taco an apology.

07-07-2009, 05:25 PM	#9
Hamrob All-American! All-American! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: DFW Posts: 4,756 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	One guy? If you ever watch the NFL Channel...I'd say it includes their entire cast. Then of course, don't forget the Duke, who said that he thought it was very disapointing that they let him go. Let's face it...unless your Champ Bailey...you're not going to say anything to rock the boat...if you're a current player. It's done...let's move on. But, let's at least be honest....it was a idiotic move to let a talent like that walk away!

07-07-2009, 05:25 PM	#10
SleepingTiger Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Murphy TX Posts: 1,161	shocking.... who would think Cutler is a great player and good leader. after reading the mane for the past several months, i thought he was a cancer.

07-07-2009, 05:25 PM	#11
~Crash~ My new dog Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,600 Adopt-a-Bronco: Kuper	In time the cutler trade will be named off as a all time blunder .

07-07-2009, 05:26 PM	#13
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,792	"It’s unfortunate for us that we had to lose a guy like that, but we’ve got to move on, we’ve got some quality guys back there that can definitely get the job done so we’ve just got to go out and handle business as necessary" Wow, maybe that's code for "the team is being torn apart." Keep crying over spilled milk, ya bunch of losers.

07-07-2009, 05:52 PM	#22
Ray Finkle DOOONNNTTTTT CAAARRREEE! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 7,465	Funny....I know a Redskin that is close to Champ and over a beer, we talked about the Cutler issue......If what I heard was correct, Champ sang a different tune when Cutler was traded....

07-07-2009, 05:59 PM	#25
Pseudofool Cynic at Large Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Kingdom of Solipsism Posts: 2,893 Adopt-a-Bronco: Me?	I'm not sure I buy a veteran defensive players take on a QBs leadership skill. Since Champ is a lead by example kind of guy, of course he prefers the same, that doesn't mean that's what the team needs.