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Old 07-07-2009, 02:40 PM   #1
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Finally some good Broncos news! We really need this kid to perform well this season.

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Broncos rookie Ayers a quick studyAbout the Author
Posted July 04, 2009 @ 3:39 p.m.
By Dan Parr

Sources in Denver say Broncos first-round pick Robert Ayersí transition to the NFL has been smooth.
We hear Ayers, the 18th overall pick in the draft, picked things up quickly during offseason activities and received a good deal of reps with the first-team defense. Itís certain heíll start at one of the front-seven spots on defense from Day One, but exactly where is something the Broncos still have to figure out.
He was mostly lining up at outside linebacker in the teamís 3-4 set, according to observers, but he could be moved to defensive end, and most likely will rush with his hand on the ground on passing downs. The Broncos could re-evaluate the best place to put Ayers depending on what they see from other front-seven players. The coaching staff has established a level of trust in Ayers, and it badly needs him to make an instant impact when the regular season starts.

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I think this was already posted but still good and worth a reread.
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Anything positive like this is worth reading twice, imo.
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I bet other teams refuse to come out of the locker room for fear of being killed by Ayers.
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He will be a starter by default since the competition for the position is pretty much nonexistent.
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I'm trying to contain my excitement about this kid. DE/OLB is a tough position to come right in and dominate. But, I watch this kid's highlight reel and he just looks like he can do it all. He's definitely not a one-trick pony, or a guy like Moss who may have only feasted on college-level talent. Ayers looks like he's got technique, instinct and multiple moves.

Waited a long time for us to draft someone like this. Hopefully he'll develop into the weapon he looks like he can be.
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I like the height of Lenny Walls and the great route running of Watts.

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I like the height of Lenny Walls and the great route running of Watts.

Man, did I bite on the Watts fake. That guy could look like Jerry Rice one minute, and Jerry Lewis the next.
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I lol'd.

Good to hear about Ayers.
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Man, did I bite on the Watts fake. That guy could look like Jerry Rice one minute, and Jerry Lewis the next.


I'm just my usual smart ass. I hope Ayers is the read deal but I've promised myself no more offseason kool-aid. I wanna see some production on the field
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I'm trying to contain my excitement about this kid. DE/OLB is a tough position to come right in and dominate. But, I watch this kid's highlight reel and he just looks like he can do it all. He's definitely not a one-trick pony, or a guy like Moss who may have only feasted on college-level talent. Ayers looks like he's got technique, instinct and multiple moves.

Waited a long time for us to draft someone like this. Hopefully he'll develop into the weapon he looks like he can be.
In bold is just about the exact opposite of true... that rush LB position has had more rookies light it up than nearly any other. It's like the RB of the defense as far as rookie seasons.
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He's definitely not a one-trick pony, or a guy like Moss who may have only feasted on college-level talent. Ayers looks like he's got technique, instinct and multiple moves.
Pretty sure he's only played against college players...like every other draft pick.
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Ayers with his hand down in a 4-3, standing up in a 3-4, that's my guess.
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In bold is just about the exact opposite of true... that rush LB position has had more rookies light it up than nearly any other. It's like the RB of the defense as far as rookie seasons.
really lots of rookie linebackers do well. Also rookie RBS, maybe we get a lift from Moreno and Ayers, and that helps with losing Cutler, just a little bit.
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really lots of rookie linebackers do well. Also rookie RBS, maybe we get a lift from Moreno and Ayers, and that helps with losing Cutler, just a little bit.
Cross your fingers.

Not chest thumping, this is actually just a disclaimer, but I'm pretty sure I'm the first person here high on Ayers in the draft subforum. That being said, he wasn't a "finisher" in college. I love his pressure and his ability to be strong at the POA, but he wasn't the best at finishing getting to the QB and bringing him down.
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In bold is just about the exact opposite of true... that rush LB position has had more rookies light it up than nearly any other. It's like the RB of the defense as far as rookie seasons.
I wouldn't say the exact opposite. A lot of times the 3/4 OLB's/ DEs do have a bit of a learnin curve. As for the RB of defense that has to be 4-3 OLB's or 3.4 -4-3 MLB's...see DJ Williams, Jon Vilma, Jon Beason, Deamco Ryans, Patrick Willis, John Mobley, ect ect
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I'm just my usual smart ass. I hope Ayers is the read deal but I've promised myself no more offseason kool-aid.
What fun is that?
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Cross your fingers.

Not chest thumping, this is actually just a disclaimer, but I'm pretty sure I'm the first person here high on Ayers in the draft subforum. That being said, he wasn't a "finisher" in college. I love his pressure and his ability to be strong at the POA, but he wasn't the best at finishing getting to the QB and bringing him down.
I was actually more impressed with his speed and moves in the open field. Seems like a great tackler and he sheds blockers well.

Maybe not the most pure pass rusher, but I think it's also about getting him in position to be effective in that capacity. (Moving him around, etc.)

I'd love to see he and Dumvervil crashing down from both sides on passing downs.
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In bold is just about the exact opposite of true... that rush LB position has had more rookies light it up than nearly any other. It's like the RB of the defense as far as rookie seasons.
Are you sure about that, it seems ILBs tend to have statistically the best years among rookie defensive players.

and about Ayers, I will go ahead and say I was very high on the kid as well, and got some **** in the draft forum also about it

Kind of like the stuff Mock spouts out ....."hes too small/big to play in a 3-4, etc.."

Well see, hopefully Im right
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Pretty sure he's only played against college players...like every other draft pick.
Thanks for clearing that up.

My point was, he looks further in his development to me... and seems to have more moves than Moss did coming out of school.

Sorry to throw a fast-ball by you like that.
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Thanks for clearing that up.

My point was, he looks further in his development to me... and seems to have more moves than Moss did coming out of school.

Sorry to throw a fast-ball by you like that.
Well you seemed confused, since you differentiated between Moss only facing college players. Moss of course...was essentially a college sophmore when he got here in terms of having lacked game experience due to his staph infection shelving him for two seasons.

But you're right...Ayers>Moss inspires me with confidence, so thanks for enlightening me.
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We all should be careful about billing this guy as a pass-rusher ... he's not that.

Four sacks in his "coming out" senior season, two of them against Vanderbilt. Like it or not, Jarvis was a better sack guy in college.

I'm excited about him, sure ... but I'm gonna wait and see.
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