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Old 07-06-2009, 05:32 PM   #1
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Nothing groundbreaking. But, it's football related...

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Set-up: Josh McDaniels has taken some lumps, but there are some good things going on... (throws to reporter)

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-We'll see how it all goes down. They haven't played a game, but there has been plenty of turmoil.

-"when you talk to people who are in Denver and even people who have left in the past few years, there is the sense that things may have gotten a little stale under Shanahan."

-"for better or worse," McDaniels has taken charge and has made active changes, even throughout the building.

-The appearance of the facility has been changed, some. (More motivational materials, etc.)

-Music being used at practice to simulate crowd/domes, etc. (As opposed to white noise in the past.)

-The Broncos "finally have a team nutritionist." Some guys have lost weight, and more modern menu items showing up... including "ostrich beef jerky" on the menu! ()

-Mini-camp wrapped up in June which allowed the players a bit more break until training camp, which was apparently popular with the players. (As opposed to breaking it up by having it in mid-July)

-A lot of the younger players are buying in. "We'll see how it goes. It hasn't been all rocky for McDaniels."
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:34 PM   #2
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Nothing too surprising, but I do like hearing the nutritionist angle. I'm shocked that we haven't had one up until now.

I hope we can make some progress with keeping these guys healthy this year.
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Nothing too surprising, but I do like hearing the nutritionist angle. I'm shocked that we haven't had one up until now.

I hope we can make some progress with keeping these guys healthy this year.
i just wish we would have changed our S&C coaches and trainers.
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:41 PM   #4
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i for one am glad to here the tidbit of positive info Popps..

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Old 07-06-2009, 05:44 PM   #5
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i just wish we would have changed our S&C coaches and trainers.
Is there any new blood with regards to our trainers? I know Greek is still there.

Keep in mind, Greek used to be sort of a hero in Denver. As a team, we stayed pretty healthy in the 90s. I don't know how much you can blame on one guy, and he's more of a medical guy, anyway.

Seems like a tough area to point one finger at one guy, but clearly in the past 5-10 years, we've had real problems.

It's just tough to say. Does Champ pull his groin because he's not being trained correctly, or sometimes are teams just snake-bit?
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:46 PM   #6
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Nothing too surprising, but I do like hearing the nutritionist angle. I'm shocked that we haven't had one up until now.

I hope we can make some progress with keeping these guys healthy this year.
The overhaul will be complete when Greek and his entire staff gets canned.
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:50 PM   #7
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I'm hungry as hell right now. I'd kill for some ostrich beef jerky.
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didnt they hire 53 as the nutrionist?

also, i hope they overhaul teh S+C staff too so i can get a job
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Is there any new blood with regards to our trainers? I know Greek is still there.

Keep in mind, Greek used to be sort of a hero in Denver. As a team, we stayed pretty healthy in the 90s. I don't know how much you can blame on one guy, and he's more of a medical guy, anyway.

Seems like a tough area to point one finger at one guy, but clearly in the past 5-10 years, we've had real problems.

It's just tough to say. Does Champ pull his groin because he's not being trained correctly, or sometimes are teams just snake-bit?
Greek is the Head Trainer, he's not responsible for keeping the guys healthy but rather helping them recover and diagnosing injuries. Tuten is the one responsible for their training and stretching, so he'd be the one to point to. Per the team injuries, I will say that during my times at camp, I was amazed at how much the players were goofing off and half-@$$ing it during stretches. Funny enough considering your example, Champ and Lynch were the two guys I remember standing out as they were actually taking their stretching seriously. I don't know how much I can blame Tuten as he yells out the stretches they're supposed to be doing, perhaps it's his fault if the guys are di*king around. On a similar note, I wonder if the players will "break it down" before every practice still. Kahn was telling me on the phone not too long ago that we don't stretch after practices which helps prevent injuries as well. He noticed it last year when we practiced with Dallas as they spent considerable time stretching after the conclusion of practice. Considering McDaniels seems to be quite thorough with the little things, I wouldn't be shocked if we this as a change.

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didnt they hire 53 as the nutrionist?
He wanted to talk to McDaniels about it but I didn't hear anything else.

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Old 07-06-2009, 06:09 PM   #10
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. Kahn was telling me on the phone not too long ago that we don't stretch after practices which helps prevent injuries as well. He noticed it last year when we practiced with Dallas as they spent considerable time stretching after the conclusion of practice. Considering McDaniels seems to be quite thorough with the little things, I wouldn't be shocked if we this as a change.
Stretching after practices is actually where you need it most, not before. I would think if you're going to go easy on stretching it should actually only be before practice and not after.
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Stretching after practices is actually where you need it most, not before. I would think if you're going to go easy on stretching it should actually only be before practice and not after.
Well under Shanahan, we didn't do any stretching after practices or games - hopefully McDaniels fixes that.
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Well under Shanahan, we didn't do any stretching after practices or games - hopefully McDaniels fixes that.
Well some people think stretching is not needed until after you play or workout.

Also some trainers feel most players stretch in a way that gives them no benefit.
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Is it just me or did the injuries seem to increase with the introduction of that sled that Tuten started using a few years ago. I wonder if Holland would have made it through the season without an injury if he had stayed in Denver. He had to push the hell out of that thing when he came in too fat to play.
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Well under Shanahan, we didn't do any stretching after practices or games - hopefully McDaniels fixes that.
You really noticed it when the Cowboys came to camp. They took twice as long to stretch before and after practice. Broncos didn't even do it after practice.
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I want to be able to say I've eaten Ostrich. Sounds awesome.
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Is there any new blood with regards to our trainers? I know Greek is still there.

Keep in mind, Greek used to be sort of a hero in Denver. As a team, we stayed pretty healthy in the 90s. I don't know how much you can blame on one guy, and he's more of a medical guy, anyway.

Seems like a tough area to point one finger at one guy, but clearly in the past 5-10 years, we've had real problems.

It's just tough to say. Does Champ pull his groin because he's not being trained correctly, or sometimes are teams just snake-bit?
i see your point, but there is a point between a team just having a bad year or 2 of injuries, and the staff not properly conditioning players. and it seems that for years now, players are dropping like flies. i think our trainers and S&C coaches need to be changed.
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Thanks for the info Popps.
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I have eaten ostrich..... and I won't again if have a choice.

Kind of tastes like chewy liver pate', but not as good.
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didnt they hire 53 as the nutrionist?

also, i hope they overhaul teh S+C staff too so i can get a job
Apparently his Powerpoint presentation was not good enough (lol).
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:26 PM   #21
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Nothing too surprising, but I do like hearing the nutritionist angle. I'm shocked that we haven't had one up until now.

I hope we can make some progress with keeping these guys healthy this year.
I'll actually call him a "nutritionist" if he can put ten pounds on Jarvis Moss...
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Count me in the crowd that thinks stretching/warm-up/warm-down should be beyond mandatory. There's no question it's beneficial. That's really understating it, in reality.

These guys are multi-million dollar investments. Sort of surprising to hear of anyone screwing around during stretch-drills.

McD is a details freak. Like people said, hopefully he's on this.
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yoga. do it. many teams do now.
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Count me in the crowd that thinks stretching/warm-up/warm-down should be beyond mandatory. There's no question it's beneficial. That's really understating it, in reality.

These guys are multi-million dollar investments. Sort of surprising to hear of anyone screwing around during stretch-drills.

McD is a details freak. Like people said, hopefully he's on this.
truthfully i was hoping he would have instituted Yoga, when he was deciding on plans for the team. Would have been better for our players to be more flexible, and limber and would have probably helped with the injury problems.
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