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iforgotmypassword · 07-05-2009, 09:00 PM

I don't have enough freinds who are interested in the NBA so here a few quick thoughts....

Fisher doesn't have to start.... kobe at 1, artest at 2, odom, pau, bynum, offese might run a lil smoother with fish but who the hell is gonna score on those five, man that was a big signing, one huge thing is kobe doesn't have to be exhausted every game now since he's not gonna be gaurding superstars

bynums kinda overated.... but young, i wouldn't mind seeing him traded

Shaq was a dumb move, he's not the answer...

Any new on the celtics? theyre trying to do something big...

bronco_boi_5280 · 07-05-2009, 09:05 PM

You should have posted this in the Artest thread.

But anyways, absolutely not @ Kobe playing PG. He's a phenomenal player, but you need an actual PG to play PG.

Plus, Odom is perfect off the bench.

Celts signed Rasheed, good move for them.

DBroncos4life · 07-05-2009, 09:11 PM

People need to think past the Oneal trade and see the big picture. Do you have any idea how much money the Cavs have coming of the books in 10? More then enough to keep James and sign Bosch.

Jason in LA · 07-05-2009, 10:13 PM

Kobe at point is a bad idea, and Jackson doesn't want to play Odom, Gasol, and Bynum at the same time. Too big of a line up. They rarely played together last year, if ever.

Taco John · 07-05-2009, 10:31 PM

Hedo Turkoglu is a douche.

BroncoMan4ever · 07-05-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

People need to think past the Oneal trade and see the big picture. Do you have any idea how much money the Cavs have coming of the books in 10? More then enough to keep James and sign Bosch.

it is going to be a strange decision for Lebron in 2010. he can take a bigger contract from Cleveland, but not get near as much endorsement dollars as he would in NYC, but to go to NYC he has to sign a deal for less cash.

my thinking is, unless Cleveland wins it all this year, he is gone after next season

BroncoDoug · 07-05-2009, 10:45 PM

Rasheed is going to sign with the Celts.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4307834

BroncoDoug · 07-05-2009, 10:57 PM

Jason kidd says he'll resign with the Mavs.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4307928

DBroncos4life · 07-05-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever

it is going to be a strange decision for Lebron in 2010. he can take a bigger contract from Cleveland, but not get near as much endorsement dollars as he would in NYC, but to go to NYC he has to sign a deal for less cash.

my thinking is, unless Cleveland wins it all this year, he is gone after next season

You really think NYC will be have a better chance at winning it all then Cleveland?

iforgotmypassword · 07-06-2009, 12:01 AM

kobe at point isn't too great, i guess im just looking at that lineup from a defensive persspective.......... hedo is a douche, sheed is a great pickup

ZONA · 07-06-2009, 12:20 AM

I believe Phil (no neck) Jackson will retire after this year for sure. Lakers could fall apart after this season.

BroncoMan4ever · 07-06-2009, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

You really think NYC will be have a better chance at winning it all then Cleveland?

hell no! i think unless Cleveland wins it all this year he will forego being on a more talented team, for more money, playing on a lesser team. he is going to realize he has probably 10 years at a high level left in him and is going to go after the money now, and later in his career start worrying about a championship.

ohiobronco2 · 07-06-2009, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever

it is going to be a strange decision for Lebron in 2010. he can take a bigger contract from Cleveland, but not get near as much endorsement dollars as he would in NYC, but to go to NYC he has to sign a deal for less cash.

my thinking is, unless Cleveland wins it all this year, he is gone after next season

Please explain how an international sports icon is going to make more money just by being in NY. When you are as big as Lebron, it doesn't matter where you play. Cleveland is now partially owned by Chinese investors, I'm sure being able to be marketed to a billion people is going to help his pocket book. The only reason he bolts is for a bigger spotlight.

bronco_boi_5280 · 07-06-2009, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Hedo Turkoglu is a douche.

Apparently's Hedo's wife wanted nothing to do with the city of Portland.

Basically, Nugget Nation is Hedo's Wife's #1 fans.

Punisher · 07-06-2009, 06:57 AM

Lakers are gonna 3 or 4 Peat but besides that the teams to look for this year are Bobcats,Warriors,and The Sixers

vancejohnson82 · 07-06-2009, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Punisher

Lakers are gonna 3 or 4 Peat but besides that the teams to look for this year are Bobcats,Warriors,and The Sixers

I don't see the Warriors doing much this year....really the drafting of Curry surprised me being htat they just gave Monta Ellis all that money...so now you have two undersized 2 guards (although Curry worked point last year at Davidson) who love to shoot

recipe for disaster....and then you still have to work in Stephen Jackson's touches because he's the kind of guy that will just NOT play if he isnt getting the rock...i see that team falling in on itself this year

Bobcats should take another step forward this year but the real key will be whether they can get all their guys signed AFTER this year....they are so young and all their guys are coming up on contracts this year and next...so its going to be like an 82 game contrract season for the entire team

ohiobronco2 · 07-06-2009, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Punisher

Lakers are gonna 3 or 4 Peat but besides that the teams to look for this year are Bobcats,Warriors,and The Sixers

Keep drinking that Kool Aid. The Lakers are better with the acquisition of Artest, but the Celtics are better with Wallace and healthy. All that needs to happen is for Kobe to get injured like Garnett did this last year. It's difficult to repeat. Don't forget the Blazers, I think Roy is a top 5 SG and they have a very good/young team.

Punisher · 07-06-2009, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ohiobronco2

Keep drinking that Kool Aid. The Lakers are better with the acquisition of Artest, but the Celtics are better with Wallace and healthy. All that needs to happen is for Kobe to get injured like Garnett did this last year. It's difficult to repeat. Don't forget the Blazers, I think Roy is a top 5 SG and they have a very good/young team.

So your planning to do Voodoo on Kobe eh?

ohiobronco2 · 07-06-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Punisher

So your planning to do Voodoo on Kobe eh?

Miss Cleo needs to work chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiild. No, I wouldn't wish that, then a title would be tainted. Like the Lakers this year with the injuries to Yao and Garnett.

BroncoMan4ever · 07-06-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ohiobronco2

Please explain how an international sports icon is going to make more money just by being in NY. When you are as big as Lebron, it doesn't matter where you play. Cleveland is now partially owned by Chinese investors, I'm sure being able to be marketed to a billion people is going to help his pocket book. The only reason he bolts is for a bigger spotlight.

just because Cleveland has minority ownership with chinese investors doesn't mean they are suddenly an international brand, it will take a few years at least until they are able to get him huge endorsement money. New York is one of if not the biggest media markets in the world. NY would give Lebron probably double in endorsement money than Cleveland would get him.

ohiobronco2 · 07-06-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever

just because Cleveland has minority ownership with chinese investors doesn't mean they are suddenly an international brand, it will take a few years at least until they are able to get him huge endorsement money. New York is one of if not the biggest media markets in the world. NY would give Lebron probably double in endorsement money than Cleveland would get him.

I understand that NY is one of the largest media markets in the world and I could see how that would be relevant to a middle of the road player as far as endorsements go. But this is Lebron James, people come to you when you are as big as he is. Not sure how he could get more endorsement deals than what he already has. When you get a 100 million sneaker contract before you graduate high school, I'd say the endorsements come to you, no matter where you are. In my mind, it does not matter where he plays.

Slade · 07-06-2009, 12:51 PM

Honestly, the team to beat next year is not the Lakers, Cavs, or Celtics. It is the Magic. They are young and very talented. Of their 4 All Stars, 2 are very young, and Lewis is fairly young. VC is getting a bit old, but is better than Hedo. The can match up with anyone.

SF is the only position in which they wont have an all star, but they have a lot of young talent to choose from for that position.

PG - Jameer Nelson All-star
SG - Vince Carter All-star
PF - Rashad Lewis All-star
C - Dwight Howard All-star

Rock Chalk · 07-06-2009, 01:00 PM

Losing Artest is going to hurt the Rockets a little, but not as much as people think. Getting rid of T-Mac somehow this offseason should be #1 priority. Trade him for a bag of tater chips and call it a deal.

Rockets are a great scoring wing away from contending. Brooks, though small, is a great young PG and Yao is either the best center or second best center in the league (its debatable, Howard is pretty awesome in the post, but Yao has a more complete game).

Carmelo will never win a NBA ring. He used all his mojo in his one year of College against my Jayhawks. Nuggets should trade him for someone who good mojo.

I think the Magic are going to win the East next year and the NBA title. Laker's not withstanding, the Magic will have been more battle tested unlike this previous year. They'll be ready.

Slade · 07-06-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

Losing Artest is going to hurt the Rockets a little, but not as much as people think. Getting rid of T-Mac somehow this offseason should be #1 priority. Trade him for a bag of tater chips and call it a deal.

Rockets are a great scoring wing away from contending. Brooks, though small, is a great young PG and Yao is either the best center or second best center in the league (its debatable, Howard is pretty awesome in the post, but Yao has a more complete game).

Carmelo will never win a NBA ring. He used all his mojo in his one year of College against my Jayhawks. Nuggets should trade him for someone who good mojo.

I think the Magic are going to win the East next year and the NBA title. Laker's not withstanding, the Magic will have been more battle tested unlike this previous year. They'll be ready.

Yao is done according to most of the reports I have seen. His foot is bad and not getting any better. Without Yao the Rockets faired well in the playoffs, but for a full season I dont think they will do too well. That alnoe will set the franchise back a good deal.

Slade · 07-06-2009, 01:06 PM

Since the Lakers are already betting on the present instead of the future (Artest vs. Ariza), they should make a play to get a solid PG like Rondo.

With a solid PG as opposed to an aging Fisher, they will win hands down for the next 3 years...then Phil Jackson will be gone...with 13 rings, Kobe will sign elsewhere like NY and make bank for the end of his career, and Artest will be done.

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07-05-2009, 09:00 PM	#1
iforgotmypassword Pro Bowler Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 632	Let's talk basketball........ I don't have enough freinds who are interested in the NBA so here a few quick thoughts.... Fisher doesn't have to start.... kobe at 1, artest at 2, odom, pau, bynum, offese might run a lil smoother with fish but who the hell is gonna score on those five, man that was a big signing, one huge thing is kobe doesn't have to be exhausted every game now since he's not gonna be gaurding superstars bynums kinda overated.... but young, i wouldn't mind seeing him traded Shaq was a dumb move, he's not the answer... Any new on the celtics? theyre trying to do something big...

07-05-2009, 09:05 PM	#2
bronco_boi_5280 Bingo Bango Bongo The Birdman Flies Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 247 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Andersen	You should have posted this in the Artest thread. But anyways, absolutely not @ Kobe playing PG. He's a phenomenal player, but you need an actual PG to play PG. Plus, Odom is perfect off the bench. Celts signed Rasheed, good move for them.

07-05-2009, 09:11 PM	#3
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,557	People need to think past the Oneal trade and see the big picture. Do you have any idea how much money the Cavs have coming of the books in 10? More then enough to keep James and sign Bosch.

07-05-2009, 10:13 PM	#4
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,252	Kobe at point is a bad idea, and Jackson doesn't want to play Odom, Gasol, and Bynum at the same time. Too big of a line up. They rarely played together last year, if ever.

07-05-2009, 10:31 PM	#5
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,704 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Hedo Turkoglu is a douche.

07-06-2009, 12:01 AM	#10
iforgotmypassword Pro Bowler Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 632	kobe at point isn't too great, i guess im just looking at that lineup from a defensive persspective.......... hedo is a douche, sheed is a great pickup

07-06-2009, 12:20 AM	#11
ZONA Ring of Famer Liquid greatness in every packet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,382 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	I believe Phil (no neck) Jackson will retire after this year for sure. Lakers could fall apart after this season.

07-06-2009, 06:57 AM	#15
Punisher ® You Tell The NFL! We're coming for That Belt! WOOOOO® Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Broncos Video Vault Posts: 6,628 Adopt-a-Bronco: i4jelway7	Lakers are gonna 3 or 4 Peat but besides that the teams to look for this year are Bobcats,Warriors,and The Sixers

07-06-2009, 12:51 PM	#22
Slade Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,958 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	Honestly, the team to beat next year is not the Lakers, Cavs, or Celtics. It is the Magic. They are young and very talented. Of their 4 All Stars, 2 are very young, and Lewis is fairly young. VC is getting a bit old, but is better than Hedo. The can match up with anyone. SF is the only position in which they wont have an all star, but they have a lot of young talent to choose from for that position. PG - Jameer Nelson All-star SG - Vince Carter All-star PF - Rashad Lewis All-star C - Dwight Howard All-star

07-06-2009, 01:00 PM	#23
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Losing Artest is going to hurt the Rockets a little, but not as much as people think. Getting rid of T-Mac somehow this offseason should be #1 priority. Trade him for a bag of tater chips and call it a deal. Rockets are a great scoring wing away from contending. Brooks, though small, is a great young PG and Yao is either the best center or second best center in the league (its debatable, Howard is pretty awesome in the post, but Yao has a more complete game). Carmelo will never win a NBA ring. He used all his mojo in his one year of College against my Jayhawks. Nuggets should trade him for someone who good mojo. I think the Magic are going to win the East next year and the NBA title. Laker's not withstanding, the Magic will have been more battle tested unlike this previous year. They'll be ready.

07-06-2009, 01:06 PM	#25
Slade Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,958 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	Since the Lakers are already betting on the present instead of the future (Artest vs. Ariza), they should make a play to get a solid PG like Rondo. With a solid PG as opposed to an aging Fisher, they will win hands down for the next 3 years...then Phil Jackson will be gone...with 13 rings, Kobe will sign elsewhere like NY and make bank for the end of his career, and Artest will be done.