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Old 07-02-2009, 09:46 AM   #1
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25ish players released from the previous regime. Half the team. I guess I knew how much of a turnover there was, but just seeing it in black and white struck me.

• RB Anthony Alridge(notes) (released).

• LB Boss Bailey (released/failed physical).

• TE Adam Bergen(notes) (released).

• CB Dre’ Bly(notes) (released).

• QB Jay Cutler (traded Bears).

• DE John Engelberger(notes) (released).

• LB Louis Green(notes) (released).

• QB Darrell Hackney(notes) (released).

• RB Alex Haynes(notes) (released).

• TE Nate Jackson(notes) (released).

• S Herana-Daze Jones(notes) (released).

• LB Niko Koutouvides(notes) (released).

• LS Mike Leach(notes) (released).

• S Marquand Manuel(notes) (released).

• S Marlon McCree(notes): Not tendered as UFA/Jaguars; terms unknown.

• TE Chad Mustard(notes) (released).

• CB Karl Paymah(notes): UFA Vikings; $1.55M/1 yr.

• OT Erik Pears(notes): Not tendered as RFA/Raiders; terms unknown.

• FB Andrew Pinnock(notes) (released).

• RB P.J. Pope(notes) (released).

• QB Patrick Ramsey(notes): UFA Titans; 1 yr, terms unknown.

• DT Dewayne Robertson(notes) (released).

• WR Cliff Russell (released/failed physical).

• DT Josh Shaw(notes) (released).

• LB Jamie Winborn(notes) (released).

• RB Selvin Young(notes) (released/failed physical).
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:47 AM   #2
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Outside of Cutler, anybody you'd want to see back from this list?
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:48 AM   #3
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Outside of Cutler, anybody you'd want to see back from this list?
Yeah, i was just gonna say the same thing
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:49 AM   #4
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There was some serious dust underneath the rug.
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:50 AM   #5
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I still think Anthony Alridge has some unique skills
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:00 AM   #6
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Aside from Cutler, Leach, maybes on Mustard, Pope and Young, but none of them were phenomenal by any stretch of the imagination. I would also like to see "Short-Round" Hackney back, I know he would never be a good QB, but he was fun to watch in Pre-season, just always seemed like he was having a good time out there. Overall no staggering losses, aside from Cutler and I have no problems with any of the other cuts.
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:08 AM   #7
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Outside of Cutler, anybody you'd want to see back from this list?
Robertson for me, but he and JC are my only 2.

The funniest part (or saddest), is that out of all those guys only 5 are currently on an NFL roster. That speaks volumes about the talent evaluation of the old regime.

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Old 07-02-2009, 10:36 AM   #8
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Leach, because he was a great LS for us.
Green, because he was good LB depth and good on ST
Alridge, because i always felt he could do something special with an opportunity
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:41 AM   #9
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:46 AM   #10
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I laughed at KFC with their youth movement last year.

I am not laughing this year...trying to think happy thoughts.
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:50 AM   #11
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Aside from Cutler, Leach, maybes on Mustard, Pope and Young, but none of them were phenomenal by any stretch of the imagination. I would also like to see "Short-Round" Hackney back, I know he would never be a good QB, but he was fun to watch in Pre-season, just always seemed like he was having a good time out there. Overall no staggering losses, aside from Cutler and I have no problems with any of the other cuts.
McGenius gave $12 million to Arington, Buckhalter and Jordan.

Denver Would have been better off keeping Pittman, Pope and Aldridge.

Why cut Leach and sign a more expensive L/S? Leach was already one of the best in the league and had a great relationship with his linemates.

Why sign Gaffney to the huge contract? He isn't better than Stokley. I guess you run off Marshall, you need him now.
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:20 AM   #12
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There was some serious dust underneath the rug.
That's about it in a nutshell.
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:29 AM   #13
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To be fair - other than Jay(hubris) and Leach (unnecessary) I don't have any problems with any of these moves. I would have wanted Mike also to release most of the other guys if he were still the coach
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:42 AM   #14
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McGenius gave $12 million to Arington, Buckhalter and Jordan.
You are aware that Arrington got cut and isn't going to get his $, right? And Buckhalter and Jordan are better than they guys we cut. Since it's not your money you should be happy with even marginal improvements.
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:02 PM   #15
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I think it's easy to get bowled over by the number 25 without putting it in any kind of context. I can count at least 15 on that list who would have likely been gone if Shanahan was still around. Some of those guys might have stuck around. Maybe we'd have held on to Ramsey, Selvin, and maybe a few others.

Also, we might have thought about keeping Jay Cutler around.
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:07 PM   #16
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I thought Erik Pears was decent, but I'll get over it. Our offensive line is solid...
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:11 PM   #17
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Let's face it, the house that Shanny built was on a weak foundation. Aside from the offensive line, no other unit has gone untouched.
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:18 PM   #18
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How did we even win 8 games last season with so much crap on the roster
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:21 PM   #19
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How did we even win 8 games last season with so much crap on the roster
coaching

despite what some here would like to believe.
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:06 PM   #20
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How did we even win 8 games last season with so much crap on the roster

We really didn't.

Ed Hochuli gave us one and lowered JC's fumble stats and pumped up his 4th Qtr and TD stats in one call.

Then Janikowski choked at the last minute.

We could probably argue about a game or two we lost but should have won.
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We really didn't.

Ed Hochuli gave us one and lowered JC's fumble stats and pumped up his 4th Qtr and TD stats in one call.

Then Janikowski choked at the last minute.

We could probably argue about a game or two we lost but should have won.
You forgot the missed FG by Gramatica(?) vs NO, despite the O scoring 38 points.
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We really didn't.
I think you're probably right. That was a 6-10 team masquerading as an 8-8 team.
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:16 PM   #23
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Ed Hochuli gave us one and lowered JC's fumble stats and pumped up his 4th Qtr and TD stats in one call.
Even so...the offense we have now isn't going to rack up 486 yards and score 39 points against the Chargers. If we had Orton on the same team, it would be a blowout by the Chargers.
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:17 PM   #24
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Even so...the offense we have now isn't going to rack up 486 yards and score 39 points against the Chargers. If we had Orton on the same team, it would be a blowout by the Chargers.


Wow. That's a punch to the gut.


Thanks for that.
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:18 PM   #25
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Robertson for me, but he and JC are my only 2.

The funniest part (or saddest), is that out of all those guys only 5 are currently on an NFL roster. That speaks volumes about the talent evaluation of the old regime.
And with all of those ****ty players we finished 8-8 ... not too shabby (aside of the epic collapse).
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