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Old 07-01-2009, 07:16 PM   #1
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Default Stallworth not only drunk, he tested positive for Marijuana.

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This could add some serious time onto his suspension.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4297460

Stallworth has also been suspended indefinitely by the NFL. Attorney David Cornwell, who is representing Stallworth in that matter, released a statement Tuesday after the Miami Herald reported on its Web site, citing unidentified sources, that the receiver tested positive for marijuana after the accident.

Cornwell stated any facts surrounding the case that might soon become public were fully known by law enforcement officers, prosecutors, defense attorneys and the judge when the plea agreement was reached.

Those facts could include the presence of marijuana in Stallworth's blood, according to the lawyer's statement. An individual can test positive for marijuana weeks after its use, meaning its presence in Stallworth's blood doesn't necessarily mean he was under the influence at the time of the accident.

While the marijuana hasn't appeared to play a role in Stallworth's criminal case, it could affect his standing with the NFL and its drug policies.



PS it was confirmed he did in fact test positive for illegal substances.
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:21 PM   #2
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The driving while drunk and killing someone is the story. An awful one. Testing positive for marijuana means little to me. It could have been days ago and depending on how they did the test, months ago.
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:16 PM   #3
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Yes @ gunns.

I'm not trying to spin, but seriously, there is zero way to prove he smoked that night at all.
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:43 PM   #4
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Drunk & high, kills someone by his own gross neglect, and gets the slightly harsher than Leonard Little treatment- **** that mother****ing son of a b****...™
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Yes @ gunns.

I'm not trying to spin, but seriously, there is zero way to prove he smoked that night at all.
I'm not sure that will matter to the NFL. Since they ban it's use anywhere, anytime, it surely won't help his cause.

I'm still confused about one thing: isn't his "indefinite" suspension kind of a moot point since he is on 2 years house arrest after his 30 days in the slammer are up? Kind of hard to play football from your house. Or will he be allowed out during the day and has to spend the night at home?
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Old 07-01-2009, 10:37 PM   #6
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He did flash his high beams at him before he hit 'em. That's got to count for something.
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:00 PM   #7
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So since he tested positive for the lettuce, do they think automatically he was stoned that night?
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:27 PM   #8
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So since he tested positive for the lettuce, do they think automatically he was stoned that night?
I automatically do.

I mean... If you're a pot smoker, what's the point of getting drunk if you're not going to get high too?

"Nah man... I'm just drinking tonight."

Not that I think the weed was the problem here. I definitely think the alcohol was the core issue, not to mention the lack of a brain.
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I automatically do.

I mean... If you're a pot smoker, what's the point of getting drunk if you're not going to get high too?

"Nah man... I'm just drinking tonight."

Not that I think the weed was the problem here. I definitely think the alcohol was the core issue, not to mention the lack of a brain.
I was automatically thinking the same, based purely on experience when I was younger...™
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:53 AM   #10
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This brings up a good point tho. What if you are a smoker, and you have something like this happen. They do the BAC test and its clear, but find weed in your system. What happens then? How are they going to prove/disprove if you were high when the accident happened?
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:30 AM   #11
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Might not have been from that night but he's still a hoser for killing a dude.
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Old 07-02-2009, 06:40 AM   #12
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If you jaywalk, you deserve to die.
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im still trying to figure out how he could have the time to start flashing his high beams, but not have time to stop/swerve considering he was the only car around.
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He did flash his high beams at him before he hit 'em. That's got to count for something.
Point well taken.
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I automatically do.

I mean... If you're a pot smoker, what's the point of getting drunk if you're not going to get high too?

"Nah man... I'm just drinking tonight."

Not that I think the weed was the problem here. I definitely think the alcohol was the core issue, not to mention the lack of a brain.
Another good point.
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:45 AM   #16
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This brings up a good point tho. What if you are a smoker, and you have something like this happen. They do the BAC test and its clear, but find weed in your system. What happens then? How are they going to prove/disprove if you were high when the accident happened?
If weed is in your system you might as well have smoked that night. In the eyes of the law it is still a DUI they don't have to know when you smoked it just that you did.
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:42 AM   #17
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I just can't believe the guy only got 30 days. Just wow.

So you can get multiple life sentences for ponzi (sp?) schemes, 2 years in prison for dog fighting, but killing people (WHILE DRUNK DRIVING no less) gets you 30 days?

Awesomeness on the part of our judicial system, and a big fat ****ing wallet.

This was being talked about yesterday with Scott and Al on the fan, and I just wanted to continue the convo a little bit.
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:52 AM   #18
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It's called contributory negligence. If the guy wasn't sprinting across the street outside of a marked crosswalk, he would be alive today. By all accounts, even though Stallworth was legally drunk, he was driving well within the rules of the road. In Florida, that means he might very well have been acquitted of all charges. The prosecution knew this, which is why they accepted the plea.

Madoff, etc. were completely different scenarios that shouldn't be compared to this one.
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:00 PM   #19
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did anyone see the police report or hear what they said about the surveillance tape that caught the accident

it sounds like the guy hopped right out in front of the car on a 4 lane highway...thats why none of this matters

if they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Stallworth would have hit him even if he was sober they throw the case out....hence why the family knew about this and took the settlement

just legalize pot already
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I automatically do.

I mean... If you're a pot smoker, what's the point of getting drunk if you're not going to get high too?

"Nah man... I'm just drinking tonight."

Not that I think the weed was the problem here. I definitely think the alcohol was the core issue, not to mention the lack of a brain.
A lot of people dont like to mix them. I'm ambivalent.

On topic, this doesn't matter at all, if it's in his system there's roughly a 30 day window for use.
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:58 PM   #21
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It's called contributory negligence. If the guy wasn't sprinting across the street outside of a marked crosswalk, he would be alive today. By all accounts, even though Stallworth was legally drunk, he was driving well within the rules of the road. In Florida, that means he might very well have been acquitted of all charges. The prosecution knew this, which is why they accepted the plea.

Madoff, etc. were completely different scenarios that shouldn't be compared to this one.
I like your argument that even everything Stallworth did that wasn't illegal was inside the rules of the law. It is trivially true that if we exclude all crimes, then the rest will be legal.

Stallworth could have been driving a stolen car with no license and with the hood up so he couldn't see, while firing a stolen machine gun out the window all while drinking copious amounts of Johnny Walker, but still be driving within the rules of the road.

So the defense counsel, knowing full well that his client would be acquited in court, went with a plea deal that gave Stallworth 30 days in jail, 2 years limited house arrest and 8 years probation, lifetime license suspension and 1000 hours community service. That has to be the worlds worst defense lawyer, or just maybe, he knew that Stallworth was going to prison and found a way to limit the damage as much as possible so Stallworth can get on with serving his suspension and get back to playing football.
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