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Old 07-01-2009, 06:26 PM   #1
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Here's a look at all 32 QB's who qualified for the passing title last year, and how they performed during the 4th quarter when the game was within seven points.

2008 4th Quarter within 7 points

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T.Romo............82...51...62.2.....720...8.8.... 8....1.....117.9
P.Rivers.........157...95...60.5...1,205...7.7...  13...3.....104.1
K.Warner..........71...49...69.0.....611...8.6.... 4....2.....102.5
T.Edwards.........85...54...63.5.....758...8.9.... 5....2.....102.0
P.Manning.........79...48...60.8.....547...6.9.... 3....0......94.2
E.Manning.........78...52...66.7.....570...7.3.... 5....3......93.4
K.Collins.........87...51...58.6.....634...7.3.... 3....0......92.8
D.Brees..........130...81...62.3...1,063...8.2.... 9....6......91.9
J.Cutler.........160...95..59.4..1,140...7.1...10....4......91.7
D.McNabb..........98...56...57.1.....631...6.4.... 4....0......90.1

A.Rodgers........129...78...60.5...1,004...7.8.... 8....5......89.4
S.Hill............61...38...62.3.....438...7.2.... 3....2......86.6
C.Pennington.....139...89...64.0.....986...7.1.... 4....3......85.6
J.Delhomme........93...59...63.4.....736...7.9.... 3....3......85.2
S.Wallace.........57...33...57.9.....332...5.8.... 3....1......84.8
J.Campbell.......131...78...59.5.....898...6.9.... 4....2......84.1
B.Roethlisberger..94...57...60.6.....691...7.4.... 5....4......83.2
M.Ryan............96...56...58.3.....624...6.5.... 4....2......83.0
M.Schaub.........103...62...60.2.....728...7.1.... 3....3......79.3
J.Russell........103...52...50.5.....643...6.2.... 5....2......78.3

G.Frerotte........36...21...58.3.....274...7.6.... 2....2......77.8
M.Cassel..........96...56...58.3.....622...6.5.... 3....3......75.1
J.Flacco..........80...51...63.7.....632...7.9.... 3....5......74.6
R.Fitzpatrick.....22...14...63.6.....100...4.5.... 0....0......74.1
D.Garrard.........92...53...57.6.....547...5.9.... 2....3......68.5
T.Thigpen........122...61...50.0.....619...5.1.... 4....4......62.2
K.Orton...........94...53...56.4.....536...5.7.... 2....4......62.2
J.Garcia.........116...63...54.3.....590...5.1.... 4....5......62.1
D.Anderson........88...39...44.3.....431...4.9.... 3....3......56.6
B.Favre...........77...47...61.0.....384...5.0.... 1....4......56.4

D.Orlovsky........35...18...51.4.....175...5.0.... 0....1......53.9
M.Bulger.........136...71...52.2.....737...5.4.... 3....8......51.0
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:27 PM   #2
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I thought you were posting another pic of yourself.
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:28 PM   #3
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you do know that jay cutler is a bear, right?
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:29 PM   #4
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That stat undervalues Orton's moxie.
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besides, its easy to put the game on the line of the QB when you have a ****ty oline, devin hester and rashied davis to toss too.
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Statz r so kool
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:37 PM   #7
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that stat doesn't take into account the anemic offense that Chicago ran and the lack of options
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:44 PM   #8
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whats even funnier is how fast you guy's run to get Orton's back

man he hasn't even played a game in Denver and he's the Messiah...............................Please
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:44 PM   #9
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I'm looking forward to the Orton experience. In fact, I can't wait. That furry mother****er is going to be entertaining to watch, at the very least. I'll be right back after I order another beer.
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whats even funnier is how fast you guy's run to get Orton's back

man he hasn't even played a game in Denver and he's the Messiah...............................Please

No, that was Cutler only without the porn stache.
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SO wow you guys paid a lot for cassal who wasnt very good in 4th quarter. Good post.
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:48 PM   #12
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Cassell sure tore it up with a bunch of weapons.
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No, that was Cutler only without the porn stache.
I mean damn I'd love for him to just explode here in Denver but I've seen alot of Bears games (why we get so many here in OK is beyond me) and none of their QB's were worth a shyt so I'll wait and see it on the field before I go off
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SO wow you guys paid a lot for cassal who wasnt very good in 4th quarter. Good post.
He was average. You expect a first-year starter to be more than average in the fourth quarter?

But your deflection is noted.
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:54 PM   #15
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whats even funnier is how fast you guy's run to get Orton's back

man he hasn't even played a game in Denver and he's the Messiah...............................Please
Hmm, a few guys say that stat could be flawed because Chicago's offense had a crappy OL and WR's and you get from it that they think Orton is the Messiah? Talk about your over reactions.
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Here's a look at all 32 QB's who qualified for the passing title last year, and how they performed during the 4th quarter when the game was within seven points.

2008 4th Quarter within 7 points

Code:
.................Att..Cmp...Cmp%...Yards...Y/A...TD...INT...QBRate

T.Romo............82...51...62.2.....720...8.8.... 8....1.....117.9
P.Rivers.........157...95...60.5...1,205...7.7...  13...3.....104.1
K.Warner..........71...49...69.0.....611...8.6.... 4....2.....102.5
T.Edwards.........85...54...63.5.....758...8.9.... 5....2.....102.0
P.Manning.........79...48...60.8.....547...6.9.... 3....0......94.2
E.Manning.........78...52...66.7.....570...7.3.... 5....3......93.4
K.Collins.........87...51...58.6.....634...7.3.... 3....0......92.8
D.Brees..........130...81...62.3...1,063...8.2.... 9....6......91.9
J.Cutler.........160...95..59.4..1,140...7.1...10....4......91.7
D.McNabb..........98...56...57.1.....631...6.4.... 4....0......90.1

A.Rodgers........129...78...60.5...1,004...7.8.... 8....5......89.4
S.Hill............61...38...62.3.....438...7.2.... 3....2......86.6
C.Pennington.....139...89...64.0.....986...7.1.... 4....3......85.6
J.Delhomme........93...59...63.4.....736...7.9.... 3....3......85.2
S.Wallace.........57...33...57.9.....332...5.8.... 3....1......84.8
J.Campbell.......131...78...59.5.....898...6.9.... 4....2......84.1
B.Roethlisberger..94...57...60.6.....691...7.4.... 5....4......83.2
M.Ryan............96...56...58.3.....624...6.5.... 4....2......83.0
M.Schaub.........103...62...60.2.....728...7.1.... 3....3......79.3
J.Russell........103...52...50.5.....643...6.2.... 5....2......78.3

G.Frerotte........36...21...58.3.....274...7.6.... 2....2......77.8
M.Cassel..........96...56...58.3.....622...6.5.... 3....3......75.1
J.Flacco..........80...51...63.7.....632...7.9.... 3....5......74.6
R.Fitzpatrick.....22...14...63.6.....100...4.5.... 0....0......74.1
D.Garrard.........92...53...57.6.....547...5.9.... 2....3......68.5
T.Thigpen........122...61...50.0.....619...5.1.... 4....4......62.2
K.Orton...........94...53...56.4.....536...5.7.... 2....4......62.2
J.Garcia.........116...63...54.3.....590...5.1.... 4....5......62.1
D.Anderson........88...39...44.3.....431...4.9.... 3....3......56.6
B.Favre...........77...47...61.0.....384...5.0.... 1....4......56.4

D.Orlovsky........35...18...51.4.....175...5.0.... 0....1......53.9
M.Bulger.........136...71...52.2.....737...5.4.... 3....8......51.0
Two words completely destroy the premis of this thread: Tony Romo
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He was average. You expect a first-year starter to be more than average in the fourth quarter?

But your deflection is noted.
you forget that it was our coach who made your QB. if he can do that with matt cassell, whats he gonna do to orton, who was having a good year in a ****ty offense with no weapons?
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He was average. You expect a first-year starter to be more than average in the fourth quarter?

But your deflection is noted.
Hmmm Why would you give 14 mil a yr to someone who only started one yr? Isn't that also a huge risk? I could see Cassal not playing well enough for a huge deal next yr.

He's pretty avg but a decent QB.
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Two words completely destroy the premis of this thread: Tony Romo
As much over hype Rome gets for being the Dallas QB, he is very good QB. I know that it fashionable to hate on him, but there are all but handful of teams that wouldn't dramatically improve with him behind center.
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Does the article talk about Cutler being 2nd to only Farve at throwing INTs?
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Trent Edwards is very high on that list.
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As much over hype Rome gets for being the Dallas QB, he is very good QB. I know that it fashionable to hate on him, but there are all but handful of teams that wouldn't dramatically improve with him behind center.
Romo gets the hype because he plays for the Dallas Pokes. You can easily make the argument that the 2008 pokes were the most talented team in the NFL. TO was just the icing on the cake.

Hell, Romo had Jason Witten to lob the ball to (IMHO the best TE in the game) and they still went 9-7 and finished 3rd in the NFCE and did not make the playoffs. How the hell does that happen?

Put Farvre on that team and they make the playoffs (that is saying a lot right there). Hell, put Jeff Garcia on that team and they make the playoffs.
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The amount of attempts is nuts. 160 passes attempts when the game is within 7 points. Man we could have used a RB last year.
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whats even funnier is how fast you guy's run to get Orton's back

man he hasn't even played a game in Denver and he's the Messiah...............................Please
You run just as fast to bash him, you're no different.
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Does the article talk about Cutler being 2nd to only Farve at throwing INTs?
I'm not kidding, I betcha Cutler had twice as many dropped INT's as any other QB in the league last year. And I'm not talking about one's that skipped of a DB's outstretched fingertips or ones that hit a DT in the foot. I'm talking about the kind that hit LB's or DB's right in the sweet spot. The kind where once they dropped the sure INT, the player fell to the ground in disbelief, knowing that most pop warner kids could have made the catch. Cutler easily should have had 28 INT's last year. And I didn't just bring this up after the trade. I was bagging on him throughout most of the final part of the season because he made such a big deal about cutting down on his INT's from the previous year. He obviously made no improvements in that area at all.

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