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Old 06-30-2009, 06:21 AM   #1
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Default The latest news on Brandon Marshall...

...is that there is no news. As some of us have been trying to tell the drama queens since this started the Broncos hold all the cards and really just have to sit back and wait. BM isn't going anywhere unless somebody comes with a great offer, which isn't going to happen.

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The Brandon Marshall saga has been quiet since he requested a trade nearly two weeks ago.

Expect the quiet to continue.

I talked to some people close to the situation Monday, and they said the Broncos will maintain their stance of keeping Marshall. The team still expects Marshall to show up for training camp.

The team still has no plans to trade Marshall. Denver's brass isn't fretting about the Marshall situation. The front office is on vacation and when the team reports to camp in late July, there is hope the Pro Bowl receiver will show. If he doesn't report for the beginning of camp, the team still expects Marshall to eventually show up.

The Broncos know they hold all the cards. If Marshall doesn't show up in 2009, he won't be paid. A prospective free agent in 2010, there is little chance Marshall will risk missing an entire season.

The Broncos know players around the league can become unhappy about their contracts routinely. Still, usually nothing happens besides the players moving on and playing. The Broncos expect that to be the case for Marshall.

However, if Denver was blown away by a trade offer for Marshall, it would likely consider it. But the compensation would have to be a first rounder-plus. So far, there have been no such offers. Because of Marshall's history of legal and injury problems, Denver doesn't expect a big offer.

So, the Broncos are content waiting this situation out. Don't be surprised if this situation continues to be quiet through July. The Broncos are in control and they don't plan on changing their stance.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0...-Marshall.html

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Maybe you should heed your own advice.
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...is that there is no news. As some of us have been trying to tell the drama queens since this started the Broncos hold all the cards and really just have to sit back and wait. BM isn't going anywhere unless somebody comes with a great offer, which isn't going to happen. So continue to wring your hands and gnash your teeth if that's what makes you happy, but you'd be better off using your energy on something more productive.
Anyone else find it comical that this is literally the only Marshall-related thread on the entire first page?

rbackfactory: you nailed it.
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damn now I have to get into a Marshall vs McD fight today that will lead into a Cutler vs McD fight. I guess the dogs won't get to the vet today after all.
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rbackfactory: you nailed it.
You're right, there weren't any meltdowns about the BM trade request. I must have been thinking of something else. Nailed it!
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You're right, there weren't any meltdowns about the BM trade request. I must have been thinking of something else. Nailed it!
Yeah, that's what I said. Reading comp time.

All I said was that there have been none ON PAGE ONE of this site. In other words, nobody for the past day or two has been beating this dead horse.

I'm pointing out the irony of you starting a thread that will do exactly what you are telling others not to do.
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I'm pointing out the irony of you starting a thread that will do exactly what you are telling others not to do.
Fair enough, I'll remove the last comment of the OP. My overall point is to reinforce to the many who still likely feel otherwise that the Broncos are firmly in the driver's seat in this situation and that BM is probably going nowhere. There were many, many people bashing McD and the FO for this situation. The fact that there aren't any recent threads on this reinforces the fact that there hasn't been any news on the subject, which further reinforces that the Broncos are in control. There isn't a trade market for BM and he has no leverage to get what he wants with any immediacy.
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Fair enough, I'll remove the last comment of the OP. My overall point is to reinforce to the many who still likely feel otherwise that the Broncos are firmly in the driver's seat in this situation and that BM is probably going nowhere. There were many, many people bashing McD and the FO for this situation. The fact that there aren't any recent threads on this reinforces the fact that there hasn't been any news on the subject, which further reinforces that the Broncos are in control. There isn't a trade market for BM and he has no leverage to get what he wants with any immediacy.
lol Of course the FO is in control, he is under contract. Every FO is in control in this situation that doesn't mean he won't get traded if they grow tired of that player. The only way a player has control if he is a FA and he isn't tagged. The owners and the FO's of every team let the NFL get to how it is now to letting the player of the past do just what BM is doing. The only people that lose is the fans.
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I wonder what he meant by this - Still, usually nothing happens besides the players moving on and playing. The Broncos expect that to be the case for Marshall.
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I wonder what he meant by this - Still, usually nothing happens besides the players moving on and playing. The Broncos expect that to be the case for Marshall.
Are you really asking what Burger Bill meant?
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You're right, there weren't any meltdowns about the BM trade request. I must have been thinking of something else. Nailed it!
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...is that there is no news. As some of us have been trying to tell the drama queens since this started the Broncos hold all the cards and really just have to sit back and wait. BM isn't going anywhere unless somebody comes with a great offer, which isn't going to happen.

Broncos continuing stance on Marshall
June 29, 2009 7:10 PM
Posted by ESPN.com's Bill Williamson

The Brandon Marshall saga has been quiet since he requested a trade nearly two weeks ago.

Expect the quiet to continue.

I talked to some people close to the situation Monday, and they said the Broncos will maintain their stance of keeping Marshall. The team still expects Marshall to show up for training camp.

The team still has no plans to trade Marshall. Denver's brass isn't fretting about the Marshall situation. The front office is on vacation and when the team reports to camp in late July, there is hope the Pro Bowl receiver will show. If he doesn't report for the beginning of camp, the team still expects Marshall to eventually show up.

The Broncos know they hold all the cards. If Marshall doesn't show up in 2009, he won't be paid. A prospective free agent in 2010, there is little chance Marshall will risk missing an entire season.

The Broncos know players around the league can become unhappy about their contracts routinely. Still, usually nothing happens besides the players moving on and playing. The Broncos expect that to be the case for Marshall.

However, if Denver was blown away by a trade offer for Marshall, it would likely consider it. But the compensation would have to be a first rounder-plus. So far, there have been no such offers. Because of Marshall's history of legal and injury problems, Denver doesn't expect a big offer.

So, the Broncos are content waiting this situation out. Don't be surprised if this situation continues to be quiet through July. The Broncos are in control and they don't plan on changing their stance.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0...-Marshall.html
Brandon Marshall evens out the control to get paid in 09 by yes of course showing up just to get paid. That isn't to say just b/c he shows up for the 09 season that he is the BMarsh of 07 and 08. Brandon just needs to show up to collect his 2.2 salary. Besides, BMarsh is on a team that in a re-building period so what does that tell you!!!

So TonyR, how would that scenario sit with you guys? Should Brandon show up for the 09 season just to get paid! where does that leave the Broncos? Denver can only ask 1st round compensation for BMarsh based off his 07 and 08 seasons and his Pro Bowl appearance.

Should BMarsh stats drop down and he doesn't make the Pro Bowl in 09; how much compenstation can the Broncos demand or expect in 2010? Afterall, Marshall will still have the talent, he just had an off year in 09, and of course he's disgruntled as well.

Denver still runs the risk of not getting compensated in a trade or with draft picks equal to the talent BMarsh brings on Sunday. I dont see where the Broncos and fans believe they are in the drivers seat.
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Should BMarsh stats drop down and he doesn't make the Pro Bowl in 09; how much compenstation can the Broncos demand or expect in 2010? Afterall, Marshall will still have the talent, he just had an off year in 09, and of course he's disgruntled as well.

Denver still runs the risk of not getting compensated in a trade or with draft picks equal to the talent BMarsh brings on Sunday. I dont see where the Broncos and fans believe they are in the drivers seat.
How much can they demand and expect? That's easy. After this 2009 season, Marshall would be a RFA which would mean, by definition, that the Broncos would receive a first and a third for him if anyone signed him away (assuming of course they give him the "high" tender of $2.7 mil).

Trade him any sooner? Negotiations have to begin at a first and a third. No less. Why? He's a year younger.
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Fair enough, I'll remove the last comment of the OP. My overall point is to reinforce to the many who still likely feel otherwise that the Broncos are firmly in the driver's seat in this situation and that BM is probably going nowhere. There were many, many people bashing McD and the FO for this situation. The fact that there aren't any recent threads on this reinforces the fact that there hasn't been any news on the subject, which further reinforces that the Broncos are in control. There isn't a trade market for BM and he has no leverage to get what he wants with any immediacy.
Doesn't really matter at this stage. All Brandon needs to do is to report to camp, go thru the motions to ensure he's on track to collect his 2.2 million dollars for the 09 season. Is this all the FO and the fans are expecting? BMarsh can still burn the Broncos by not playing at the same level he played in 07 & 08. Doesn't Marshall still get PAID!!!!

There is nothing the Broncos and Fans can do should Marshall depoly his version of SYOPS against McDaniel's. It starts with Marshall not talking to the media, it starts with Marshall not trusting the Broncos Organization and McD. Silence is Killer! From the start of training camp until the end of December 09, the SYOPs BMarsh can employ everytime the "Mic" is put in front of him is talk about how much he no longer wants to be Bronco and wants to be traded.........Brandon still get paid his $2.2 million dollars! So who's in the Driver seat under this scenario!!!
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Actually, he won't get all that $2.2 mil. He's already missed some mandatory practices, so if the Broncos want to, they can start the fines which technically have already accumulated to six figures.
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How much can they demand and expect? That's easy. After this 2009 season, Marshall would be a RFA which would mean, by definition, that the Broncos would receive a first and a third for him if anyone signed him away (assuming of course they give him the "high" tender of $2.7 mil).

Trade him any sooner? Negotiations have to begin at a first and a third. No less. Why? He's a year younger.
True, BMarsh won't be a year younger.....but at the same time in the 09 season, BMarsh should not play with the reckless-risky abandon that he use play back in 07 & 08 seasons b/c that mode of play definitely makes you older over time b/c of the wear and tear your body goes thru b/c you allow 2 or 3 players to tackle you.

When you really think about, why should he? The Broncos have yet to compensate him for his 07 & 08 seasons. Face it the last 3 years, BMarsh has not put up numbers like a 4th rnd draft pick---its more like a 1st round draft pick.

If Marshall is smart, he'll go into the 09 season to make sure his hip is healthy and to protect and extend his career by going down with arm tackles, getting tackled by one player, and stepping out of bounds when he can. Brandon should realize he's leaving Denver evenually he just needs to leave healthy and make sure he gets paid.

So as you can see both Marshall and Denver both have LEVERAGE.
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How much can they demand and expect? That's easy. After this 2009 season, Marshall would be a RFA which would mean, by definition, that the Broncos would receive a first and a third for him if anyone signed him away (assuming of course they give him the "high" tender of $2.7 mil).

Trade him any sooner? Negotiations have to begin at a first and a third. No less. Why? He's a year younger.
Great analysis ... 1st and 3rd must be the starting point. And nobody's gonna offer a 1st and 3rd for a guy who's damaged goods and character flawed, no matter how supernaturally talented he might be.


If Pat is smart, he'll give him a middling/decent bump with big incentives for this year. That way BM can save face and come in. Not the huge deal just yet, but something so he's not embarrassed to get back in there and start studying.

Remember, we were concerned with Brandon's learning curve BEFORE he left the team. Being gone drops hium further and further back.
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Actually, he won't get all that $2.2 mil. He's already missed some mandatory practices, so if the Broncos want to, they can start the fines which technically have already accumulated to six figures.
This is true, and there in lies where the animosity will start. Revenge and hatred are two intangibles that are cancerous to a team atomosphere and this is what could be at stake for both sides.

Brandon needs to defeat this situation he now finds himself in with his mind and not with emotions. Like I said earlier, Marshall needs to get into camp to get paid, make sure his hip is healthy and put the health of his hip ahead of the Broncos.....plain and simple. Brandon needs to realize his value and his career is based solely on how healthy he is. Even if McD tries to insinuate BMarsh is a malingerer and milking his hip injury, BMarsh needs to ignore it and make sure he's healthy. He can't be fined for that can he.
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True, BMarsh won't be a year younger.....but at the same time in the 09 season, BMarsh should not play with the reckless-risky abandon that he use play back in 07 & 08 seasons b/c that mode of play definitely makes you older over time b/c of the wear and tear your body goes thru b/c you allow 2 or 3 players to tackle you.
This is such an exaggerated "statistic" IMO. WRs like Marshall average 5 or 6 receptions a game. In MAYBE one or two of those plays does he really have the option of stepping out of bounds versus taking a hit. It seems from what I've seen that players that try to play it "soft" (like Shaun Alexander) get hurt just as much if not more than players that go all out on every play (Eddie Mac).
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Great analysis ... 1st and 3rd must be the starting point. And nobody's gonna offer a 1st and 3rd for a guy who's damaged goods and character flawed, no matter how supernaturally talented he might be.


If Pat is smart, he'll give him a middling/decent bump with big incentives for this year. That way BM can save face and come in. Not the huge deal just yet, but something so he's not embarrassed to get back in there and start studying.

Remember, we were concerned with Brandon's learning curve BEFORE he left the team. Being gone drops hium further and further back.
Everything hinges upon how healthy Brandon can keep himself. Looks like that big pay day he's searching for won't happen until he's free and clear of Denver. Of course Denver can still tag him two years after his intitial 4 year contract is up. But of course tag him two years in a row will probable ingender more animosity and hatred.

BMarsh just needs to stay healthy until he's paroled by the Denver Broncos.
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