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Old 06-29-2009, 06:16 PM   #1
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Old 06-29-2009, 06:26 PM   #2
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"Pete Prisco ranks his top NFL players at each position. Clovdyx provided his list of top offensive tackles."

Who in the heck is Clovdyx?
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"Pete Prisco ranks his top NFL players at each position. Clovdyx provided his list of top offensive tackles."

Who in the heck is Clovdyx?
I dont know, but his rankings are beyond terrible.
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Old 06-29-2009, 06:31 PM   #4
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he gave up .5 a sack... garbage. Trade him!
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Old 06-29-2009, 06:32 PM   #5
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"Pete Prisco ranks his top NFL players at each position. Clovdyx provided his list of top offensive tackles."

Who in the heck is Clovdyx?
Okay, quoting myself here. How's this for some solid analysis from this Clovdyx clown: "9. Michael Roos, Titans - Comment: I had to do a bit of research to compile this list, and his name came up. For those who don't know, he's a starting tackle for Tennessee, who posted the league's best record last year."

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I love how Clady was handed the starting job before OTA's and no one said anything and it worked out. Orton was announced the starting QB for training camp with the caveat that he could still lose the job, and people were pissing and moaning about it.
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I love how Clady was handed the starting job before OTA's and no one said anything and it worked out. Orton was announced the starting QB for training camp with the caveat that he could still lose the job, and people were pissing and moaning about it.
I DO think complaining about naming Orton the starter for camp is silly, BUT I don't find the two situations all that comparable. Here's why:

Clady was drafted on his immense talent. His primary competition was Erik Pears (or was he already cut, making it even more shallow?)

Orton and immense talent don't belong in the same sentence. Even his biggest supporters won't argue that. His primary competition is Chris Simms, who's on the exact same level as he is.
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I DO think complaining about naming Orton the starter for camp is silly, BUT I don't find the two situations all that comparable. Here's why:

Clady was drafted on his immense talent. His primary competition was Erik Pears (or was he already cut, making it even more shallow?)

Orton and immense talent don't belong in the same sentence. Even his biggest supporters won't argue that. His primary competition is Chris Simms, who's on the exact same level as he is.
Clady was a freaking rookie playing one of the hardest positions in the NFL. Let's not forget that Harris was still on the roster and Pears had experience in games. People that had misgivings about naming Orton the starter for camp that didn't at least entertain skepticism about Clady being the named the starter the day he was drafted should punch themselves in the balls.
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How this guy didn't make the pro-bowl still shocks me.
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Clady was a freaking rookie playing one of the hardest positions in the NFL. Let's not forget that Harris was still on the roster and Pears had experience in games. People that had misgivings about naming Orton the starter for camp that didn't at least entertain skepticism about Clady being the named the starter the day he was drafted should punch themselves in the balls.
And Orton's an untalented fruit-cake playing THE most difficult position in the NFL, but that's just my opinion. What's not my opinion: He was beaten repeatedly by Rex Grossman and Brian Griese.

But I digress, this thread should be about Clady love and should be all about adoration of one of our top 3 (if not TOP) football players.
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How this guy didn't make the pro-bowl still shocks me.
Fan vote is pretty silly, along with some east coast bias. Still, I think a good chunk of the reason is that he played a lot of his stiffest competition towards the end of the season when a lot of the voting was already done. It's a tragedy either way.
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Half a sack?

One half of one sack?!?!?!


Guys just cannot get around him. His lateral quickness is freaking amazing, and he's obviously a rock against a bull rush too.

The half he gave up was prolly when Jay was scrambling, and he and Hamilton lost track of some pass-rusher who shot a gap ...
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And Orton's an untalented fruit-cake playing THE most difficult position in the NFL, but that's just my opinion. What's not my opinion: He was beaten repeatedly by Rex Grossman and Brian Griese.
Let's not forget the genius OC in Chicago...Norv Turner's brother. Anyone think that Orton or any QB from Chicago will be coached up by McDaniels?
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Clady was a freaking rookie playing one of the hardest positions in the NFL. Let's not forget that Harris was still on the roster and Pears had experience in games. People that had misgivings about naming Orton the starter for camp that didn't at least entertain skepticism about Clady being the named the starter the day he was drafted should punch themselves in the balls.
think about it this way. in the NFL, more than likely 80% of 1st round draft picks are put in as starters almost from day 1, or by the middle of TC when they have learned the system. 1st round picks are not drafted to learn the position and in a couple years crack the starting lineup, usually they are brought in to contribute the minute the ink is dry on their mega contract with huge guaranteed dollars.
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And Orton's an untalented fruit-cake playing THE most difficult position in the NFL, but that's just my opinion. What's not my opinion: He was beaten repeatedly by Rex Grossman and Brian Griese.

But I digress, this thread should be about Clady love and should be all about adoration of one of our top 3 (if not TOP) football players.
Orton was never beaten out by Grossman. Grossman was simply given the job and numerous opportunities regardless of how bad he sucked because he was a 1st round draft pick. most teams will give a 1st round QB chances and years to become what they drafted, even when it appears obvious they will never be who they wee supposed to be. look at Harrington, Carr, even Ryan Leaf was given time.

and last season when actually given a legit shot as a starter he began the season as one of the top QBs in the league. he was getting notice as a possible MVP candidate at the midway point of the season.

if he has help around him and a chance the guy can play.
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Orton was never beaten out by Grossman. Grossman was simply given the job and numerous opportunities regardless of how bad he sucked because he was a 1st round draft pick. most teams will give a 1st round QB chances and years to become what they drafted, even when it appears obvious they will never be who they wee supposed to be. look at Harrington, Carr, even Ryan Leaf was given time.

and last season when actually given a legit shot as a starter he began the season as one of the top QBs in the league. he was getting notice as a possible MVP candidate at the midway point of the season.

if he has help around him and a chance the guy can play.
That's 100% wild speculation.

It's on the same level as saying that currently, Orton is being given the opportunity and has not outperformed Chris Simms to earn it.

It's silly.
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That's 100% wild speculation.

It's on the same level as saying that currently, Orton is being given the opportunity and has not outperformed Chris Simms to earn it.

It's silly.
What does it matter?

If Simms performs better in TC, then he'll get the job.
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That's 100% wild speculation.

It's on the same level as saying that currently, Orton is being given the opportunity and has not outperformed Chris Simms to earn it.

It's silly.
really, you have proof of this how? were you there? or are you just making **** up again?
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And Orton's an untalented fruit-cake playing THE most difficult position in the NFL, but that's just my opinion. What's not my opinion: He was beaten repeatedly by Rex Grossman and Brian Griese.
You should download a few Bear's games from the first 8 games of last season. Orton was not that bad. He is a MUCH smarter QB than Jay Cutler ever was here, he has an above average arm, he doesn't make many dumb throws... I think you will change your tune once you see Orton behind the offensive line we have. Orton was lucky to get 2 seconds to pass the ball behind Chicago's line. And the play calling he had to put up with was atrocious.
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Orton and immense talent don't belong in the same sentence. .[/QUOTE]

O.K.. I won't argue that.

But, many worse QBs have been part of productive playoff teams and SB winners. In an age of parity, anything can happen from year to year. Chicago was an offensive void. It'll be interesting to see what an offensive coach can do with Orton and Co.

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Even his biggest supporters won't argue that. His primary competition is Chris Simms, who's on the exact same level as he is.[/QUOTE]

Maybe. Orton has a nice record as a starter and Simms has been out of the game for a bit. Orton also has experience in the system, so I don't think it's at all surprising or odd that he was named the starter. I also believe McDaniels when he says that it's "for now." Guys are going to have to earn their jobs this year, and I guarantee yo Orton will be no different. This was likely a move to establish some continuity with the offense and perhaps even give Simms an extra incentive to speed up his learning curve. McD knows he's got to get both of these guys performing at their highest level.

It also might be just that Orton is picking up things much faster, and this serves as a practical move to know who's taking reps with the starters when day 1 kicks in.

A lot of possible reasons for doing it... none that far fetched, and it's a move that can be retracted at any time. If Simms shines in the PS and Orton flops, watch how fast Kyle's butt hits the plywood.

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really, you have proof of this how? were you there? or are you just making **** up again?
You moron. I'm using his flawed logic to show how silly that sounds. You continue to exemplify you're stupidity at every opportunity.
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On topic, though... props to Clady. I hope he follows up with an even stronger year. What a huge grab that was, solidifying the LT spot for years to come.
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O.K.. I won't argue that.

But, many worse QBs have been part of productive playoff teams and SB winners. In an age of parity, anything can happen from year to year. Chicago was an offensive void. It'll be interesting to see what an offensive coach can do with Orton and Co.



Maybe. Orton has a nice record as a starter and Simms has been out of the game for a bit. Orton also has experience in the system, so I don't think it's at all surprising or odd that he was named the starter. I also believe McDaniels when he says that it's "for now." Guys are going to have to earn their jobs this year, and I guarantee yo Orton will be no different. This was likely a move to establish some continuity with the offense and perhaps even give Simms an extra incentive to speed up his learning curve. McD knows he's got to get both of these guys performing at their highest level.

It also might be just that Orton is picking up things much faster, and this serves as a practical move to know who's taking reps with the starters when day 1 kicks in.

A lot of possible reasons for doing it... none that far fetched, and it's a move that can be retracted at any time. If Simms shines in the PS and Orton flops, watch how fast Kyle's butt hits the plywood.
People are getting this way twisted. I DON'T CARE ONE BIT THAT ORTON GOT NAMED THE STARTER. I was only pointing out I don't think it compares to Clady being named the starter last season.

FFS, this is a Clady thread.
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That's 100% wild speculation.

It's on the same level as saying that currently, Orton is being given the opportunity and has not outperformed Chris Simms to earn it.

It's silly.
Simms was brought in specifically for the reason of being a backup. he was never looked at as a guy to start for us, even when Jay was traded. Orton was brought in to start here, and informing him of that early builds up his confidence and shows that the team has faith in him. also, by telling him now, McDaniels has put more pressure on him to keep the job. it is much harder to keep the job than it is to get the job.
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