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Old 06-29-2009, 12:35 PM   #151
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Question: How bad does Hollywood suck?

Answer: It's making movies based on video games.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:37 PM   #152
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Question: How bad does Hollywood suck?

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Old 06-29-2009, 12:39 PM   #153
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New Transformers was awesome. Loved it.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:46 PM   #154
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My Rankings of the Summer Movies I've Seen Thus Far (best to worst):

The Hangover
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Transformers II
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Night at the Museum 2
Land of the Lost (there should be a place in movie hell dedicated to crap like this)
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:49 PM   #155
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That brings up a good point. Most of the comedy was unintentional. The planes taking off was laughably corny. I'm not into political correctness, but the robot twins made ME feel uncomfortable.
Ironically, when the wife and i went saturday to see this most of the theatre was full of black individuals and they laughed the hardest at the twins. The only uncomfortable spot i thought was the black butcher with the bad teeth. That really had no purpose at all in the film to me.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:27 PM   #156
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First of all, you should read up on Deus Ex Machina, "God from the machine", and what it truly means. It's when something IMPOSSIBLE happens completely outside the plot line to provide a sudden twist.

Advanced military technology that's top secret is far from applicable. Especially considering it changed the plot line... zero.

So, yeah, sorry. In a movie that's about biological robots that transform into human technology to hide, and the part you find unbelievable is an advanced human laser beam.

Wow.
Maybe you should read up on it.

A deus ex machina (pronounced /ˈdeɪəs ɛks ˈmɑːkinə/ or /ˈdiːəs ɛks ˈmękɨnə/,[1] literally "god from the machine") is a plot device in which a person or thing appears "out of the blue" to help a character to overcome a seemingly insolvable difficulty.

BOOM. It's a completely random out of nowhere plot device used to defeat devastator because they couldn't come up with a real way to do it.

Where was the rail gun for the first 2 hours? Oh right, it was a DEUS EX MACHINA.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:36 PM   #157
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Maybe you should read up on it.

A deus ex machina (pronounced /ˈdeɪəs ɛks ˈmɑːkinə/ or /ˈdiːəs ɛks ˈmękɨnə/,[1] literally "god from the machine") is a plot device in which a person or thing appears "out of the blue" to help a character to overcome a seemingly insolvable difficulty.

BOOM. It's a completely random out of nowhere plot device used to defeat devastator because they couldn't come up with a real way to do it.

Where was the rail gun for the first 2 hours? Oh right, it was a DEUS EX MACHINA.
Sweet wiki definition. The real one involves it solving plot entanglements and it's inception is from a God being lowered onto the stage to solve the protagonist's delimna. It's pretty realistic that an intense laser beam "rail gun" would exist as is. Couple with that with it not really changing the plot WHATSOEVER (Devastator already unearthed the machine and had no further purpose), and yeah, it does not classify as a "Deus Ex Machina".
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Sweet wiki definition. The real one involves it solving plot entanglements and it's inception is from a God being lowered onto the stage to solve the protagonist's delimna. It's pretty realistic that an intense laser beam "rail gun" would exist as is. Couple with that with it not really changing the plot WHATSOEVER (Devastator already unearthed the machine and had no further purpose), and yeah, it does not classify as a "Deus Ex Machina".
They had no way to defeat Devastator until it showed up from nowhere. Devastator WAS a problem, he was big and badass. Devastator and the fallen would have raped. The fact that the Rail Gun wasnt used previously in the movie during multiple instances when it would have been extremely effective makes it a deus ex machina. Just because it "could" exist, doesn't mean it ISN'T a deus ex machina, or a tool to keep the story going. The problem at that point in the movie was devastator and noone was going to stop him until "oh hey, we have this awesome rail gun that could have killed all the Decepticons easily but we didn't -really- need it until devastator was ****ing **** up."
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:47 PM   #159
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They had no way to defeat Devastator until it showed up from nowhere. Devastator WAS a problem, he was big and badass. Devastator and the fallen would have raped. The fact that the Rail Gun wasnt used previously in the movie during multiple instances when it would have been extremely effective makes it a deus ex machina. Just because it "could" exist, doesn't mean it ISN'T a deus ex machina, or a tool to keep the story going. The problem at that point in the movie was devastator and noone was going to stop him until "oh hey, we have this awesome rail gun that could have killed all the Decepticons easily but we didn't -really- need it until devastator was ****ing **** up."
hh... as previously stated, the twins were a joke and were F'ing up devastator. You think Prime who whipped the Fallen, Megatron and Starscream's asses all at once would've had an issue with him?

You're exactly as dumb as you seem to be. There is NOT more than meets the eye with you.
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I cant believe people are argueing over how Devastator died.
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Old 06-29-2009, 02:26 PM   #161
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ITS A BAD MOVIE BUT GOOD EYE CANDY THATS IT god dammit people!
You should probably read what I wrote earlier about Michael Bay movies so you can understand.

People want different stuff... and people love EYE CANDY. So when they get EYE CANDY with a brand they love... such as hmmm TRANSFORMERS. It's going to make a **** ton of money.
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Old 06-29-2009, 02:30 PM   #162
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Terminator Salvation was terrible.
Transformers 2 had a better plot than that movie...
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Old 06-29-2009, 02:31 PM   #163
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Question: How bad does Hollywood suck?

Answer: So bad it's making movies based on cartoon characters and toys from the 1980s.
Thundercats is on the way. They are also remaking Conan the Barbarian and Red Sonja... aaaaaaand there are rumors that Voltron is in the works too.

Hollywood has nowhere else it want's to go to be honest. It's also quick and easy money when a story is already taken care of and the brand is already out there due to a fan base that WILL PAY to see it.
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Dont forget they are re-making "Escape from New York", "Highlander", "Nightmare on Elm St", and "Rocky Horror Picture Show".
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hh... as previously stated, the twins were a joke and were F'ing up devastator. You think Prime who whipped the Fallen, Megatron and Starscream's asses all at once would've had an issue with him?

You're exactly as dumb as you seem to be. There is NOT more than meets the eye with you.
Thats like saying because Peyton Manning threw into double coverage and completed it, he will have no problem throwing into triple and quadruple coverage. Good analogy.
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Thats like saying because Peyton Manning threw into double coverage and completed it, he will have no problem throwing into triple and quadruple coverage. Good analogy.
Actually, I think a better analogy is Manning completed consecutive passes against Champ, Asomugha, and Jammer.....so there was really no need to guess how it would've turned out had he thrown a 4th pass in Deangelo Hall's direction.
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Transformers went over $200 million in 5 days WOW
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Thats like saying because Peyton Manning threw into double coverage and completed it, he will have no problem throwing into triple and quadruple coverage. Good analogy.
Once again, you've proven yourself incompetent in making simple comparisons. What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Paper Heart
Starring Michael Cera
Release Date August 7th, 2009

And please somebody watch The Hurt Locker Please! this movie might win an Oscar
hurt locker was sweet...paper heart was good? ive heard mixed
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Once again, you've proven yourself incompetent in making simple comparisons. What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Awsome, rep to you sir
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Michael Bay always misses the point. The man is a ****ing idiot when it comes to plot and character development. But that's not the type of films he makes.

Look at Family Guy... Matt and Trey were spot on when they said that the show is ****ing stupid and a manatee could write their jokes. (most of the animated comedy community thinks Seth MacFarlane is a ****ing retard). But his stuff... as stupid and easy to create as it may be, still makes people laugh due to it's utter randomness (which is the point of the show)

Bay makes spectacles... and there is a reason he's made HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars with his films. People just like to see **** blow up and giant battles.

People get pissed off when they see hacks put together entertainment that they not only find devoid of actual talent to create, but something that they think anyone could do... but they really get pissed off when it's a HUGE SUCCESS.

That's why the critics lampoon Bay... but it's not going to stop him from having more success in the future.
Why the movie should be watched on mute. Won't argue the spectacle.
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Once again, you've proven yourself incompetent in making simple comparisons. What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
So you're saying Devastator would have just ****ed off had he not been blown away? Since he ran his course. Your failure of the language and reading comprehension is not my fault. You make outlandish claims with no backing, and obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Yet you make personal attacks at me because you don't understand the literary and theatrical tool to its full extent. You're an e-thug, congrats. You win, I give up, you can't fix stupid self-assuring ignorance.
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