Solomon Wilcots. OUCH - The Orange Mane

~Crash~ · 06-22-2009, 11:46 AM

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-networ...Denver-Broncos

Popps don't watch this your orange colored glasses will milt......

Popps · 06-22-2009, 11:48 AM

Already posted, sir.

HEAV · 06-22-2009, 01:22 PM

Los Broncos · 06-22-2009, 01:26 PM

We landed on the moon!

crush17 · 06-22-2009, 01:34 PM

real sick repost bro!

colonelbeef · 06-22-2009, 02:02 PM

He is 100% correct, the blind fluffers will attack the messenger but cannot fight the message.

colonelbeef · 06-22-2009, 02:04 PM

Teams wins games, not 1 player by himself. Even Popps should be able to acknowledge this

gunns · 06-22-2009, 02:25 PM

If our defense doesn't show up again none of that really matters.

meangene · 06-22-2009, 02:58 PM

I don't know who is worse, or more ill-informed, Wilcocks or Jamie Douche. Neither one of them EVER does anything but hate on the Broncos in their who-can-talk-louder, bandwagon jumping rants.

theAPAOps5 · 06-22-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by colonelbeef

Teams wins games, not 1 player by himself. Even Popps should be able to acknowledge this

Thanks for making his point.

cutthemdown · 06-22-2009, 03:13 PM

Broncos have too many question marks to be ranked very high.

Fact is new coaches usually get 2-3 yrs to turn around a team that has been missing playoffs.

Bronco fans are just going to have to be patient and trust the owner is going to work with new regime to bring a winner in.

It may take a yr or 2 to get bigger and stronger and implement Mcdaniels style into the Mile High City.

Wilcots makes some good points. Also though no one expected Harris to be as good as he is at RT, or Royal at WR etc. I'm hoping a few unexpected players emerge and I think they will.

Ayers and Moreno could end up helping right away.

Smiling Assassin27 · 06-22-2009, 03:30 PM

That was a completely manufactured piece. What I mean by that is that he picked out specifically bad throws by Orton to contrast with great throws by Cutler. This is silly. Orton made some good throws and Cutler made some god-awful ones, but Solomon didn't seem to care about those much.

Even on the first throw--a rollout, Cutler's rolling to his right while Orton rolls to the LEFT and has to throw against his body. Not the same situation, Solomon.

He even admits on the second throw that his wr comes back to the ball while orton's does not. Big difference, Solomon.

'Don't look at the won-loss records'. Just lost all credibility. Putting NO credence on won-loss is a joke. Some qb's find a way to win, some do not.

Next, Solomon says Orton is 'a smaller qb with a differnt body type'. What? Kyle orton: 6-4 220
Tom Brady: 6-4 224
Matt Cassel: 6-4 217

Folks, Solomon Wilcots just gave you the lazy man's scoop on Kyle Orton. Disgraceful.

colonelbeef · 06-22-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ApaOps5

Thanks for making his point.

His point is that Cutler has better stats across the board, including td/int ratio, yards, completion %, and is a far better QB right now and much more valuable as a player than Kyle Orton ever will be? Really?

How come he keeps using W/L as a way to compare the two then? Seems to fly in the face of football as a team concept. Actually, seems like people want to pin the W/L solely on Cutler in an asinine attempt at justifying the awful trade made this offseason.

Popps · 06-22-2009, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApaOps5

Thanks for making his point.

Colon Beef isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

crush17 · 06-22-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

That was a completely manufactured piece. What I mean by that is that he picked out specifically bad throws by Orton to contrast with great throws by Cutler. This is silly. Orton made some good throws and Cutler made some god-awful ones, but Solomon didn't seem to care about those much.

Even on the first throw--a rollout, Cutler's rolling to his right while Orton rolls to the LEFT and has to throw against his body. Not the same situation, Solomon.

He even admits on the second throw that his wr comes back to the ball while orton's does not. Big difference, Solomon.

'Don't look at the won-loss records'. Just lost all credibility. Putting NO credence on won-loss is a joke. Some qb's find a way to win, some do not.

Next, Solomon says Orton is 'a smaller qb with a differnt body type'. What? Kyle orton: 6-4 220
Tom Brady: 6-4 224
Matt Cassel: 6-4 217

Folks, Solomon Wilcots just gave you the lazy man's scoop on Kyle Orton. Disgraceful.

Great post. Sums up my thoughts on that piece perfectly.

Spider · 06-22-2009, 04:01 PM

forgive my typing here , i think I broke 2 fingers on my left hand , so typing will be hard , but Wilcox is trying to be miss cleo here ..... probably for ratings

Popps · 06-22-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider

forgive my typing here , i think I broke 2 fingers on my left hand , so typing will be hard , but Wilcox is trying to be miss cleo here ..... probably for ratings

Good lord. Now what?

Spider · 06-22-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

Good lord. Now what?

I got my fingers pinched in between the chain that the track on this bulldozer i have on , I got the bleeding to stop, but they are sore as hell

BroncoBuff · 06-22-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HEAV

Do NOT mention that game ever again!

BroncoBuff · 06-22-2009, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider

I got my fingers pinched in between the chain that the track on this bulldozer i have on , I got the bleeding to stop, but they are sore as hell

It was the down day Spider ... that day off dulled your cat-like reflexes

HILife · 06-22-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Do NOT mention that game ever again!

Is it ok to talk about this game?

Spider · 06-22-2009, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

It was the down day Spider ... that day off dulled your cat-like reflexes

yeah thats it , but now I dont think they are broke , I can move them and strength is coming back , but man that hurt like hell

I actually took some ibuprofen........Should have seen my pain dance though ...

RunSilentRunDeep · 06-22-2009, 04:55 PM

I bet he couldn't name one player outside Marshall with a morale problem. Players are happy in the NFL when they have a job and get a chance to compete. Name one person outside Marshall that doesn't have that opportunity.

His stats were all attempts based. He didn't mention Orton was +1.3 on TD%/INT% while Cutler was +1.2. The chasm he referred doesn't exist.

BroncoBuff · 06-22-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hilife

Is it ok to talk about this game?

I HATE THAT GAME TOO!

But the Buffalo game is worse than any game since ......... the 2005 AFC Championship game, before that the Redskins home loss in 2001, before that the Jaguars home playoff loss in 1996.

So shove that clip where the sun dont shine!!

Los Broncos · 06-22-2009, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

Good lord. Now what?

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colonelbeef Purge the McScandals! Ben McDaniels needs a new family Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 3,856 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ben McDaniels	He is 100% correct, the blind fluffers will attack the messenger but cannot fight the message.

06-22-2009, 02:04 PM	#7
colonelbeef Purge the McScandals! Ben McDaniels needs a new family Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 3,856 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ben McDaniels	Teams wins games, not 1 player by himself. Even Popps should be able to acknowledge this

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gunns I WANT DEFENSE! Defense, defense, defense Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Always Hoping Posts: 11,657 Adopt-a-Bronco: Defense	If our defense doesn't show up again none of that really matters.

06-22-2009, 02:58 PM	#9
meangene Ring of Famer Offseason Mode Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,075	I don't know who is worse, or more ill-informed, Wilcocks or Jamie Douche. Neither one of them EVER does anything but hate on the Broncos in their who-can-talk-louder, bandwagon jumping rants.

06-22-2009, 03:13 PM	#11
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,447	Broncos have too many question marks to be ranked very high. Fact is new coaches usually get 2-3 yrs to turn around a team that has been missing playoffs. Bronco fans are just going to have to be patient and trust the owner is going to work with new regime to bring a winner in. It may take a yr or 2 to get bigger and stronger and implement Mcdaniels style into the Mile High City. Wilcots makes some good points. Also though no one expected Harris to be as good as he is at RT, or Royal at WR etc. I'm hoping a few unexpected players emerge and I think they will. Ayers and Moreno could end up helping right away.

06-22-2009, 03:30 PM	#12
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,970 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	That was a completely manufactured piece. What I mean by that is that he picked out specifically bad throws by Orton to contrast with great throws by Cutler. This is silly. Orton made some good throws and Cutler made some god-awful ones, but Solomon didn't seem to care about those much. Even on the first throw--a rollout, Cutler's rolling to his right while Orton rolls to the LEFT and has to throw against his body. Not the same situation, Solomon. He even admits on the second throw that his wr comes back to the ball while orton's does not. Big difference, Solomon. 'Don't look at the won-loss records'. Just lost all credibility. Putting NO credence on won-loss is a joke. Some qb's find a way to win, some do not. Next, Solomon says Orton is 'a smaller qb with a differnt body type'. What? Kyle orton: 6-4 220 Tom Brady: 6-4 224 Matt Cassel: 6-4 217 Folks, Solomon Wilcots just gave you the lazy man's scoop on Kyle Orton. Disgraceful.

06-22-2009, 04:01 PM	#16
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	forgive my typing here , i think I broke 2 fingers on my left hand , so typing will be hard , but Wilcox is trying to be miss cleo here ..... probably for ratings

06-22-2009, 04:55 PM	#23
RunSilentRunDeep Ring of Famer I root for laundry Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,403 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	I bet he couldn't name one player outside Marshall with a morale problem. Players are happy in the NFL when they have a job and get a chance to compete. Name one person outside Marshall that doesn't have that opportunity. His stats were all attempts based. He didn't mention Orton was +1.3 on TD%/INT% while Cutler was +1.2. The chasm he referred doesn't exist.