An honest poll/question from you Cap'n - The Orange Mane

Hotrod · 06-16-2009, 03:25 PM

If Bowlin had it to do again would he have still fired Shanny and brought in McD if he knew that it would end up with Cutler and Marshal leaving among other things?

24champ · 06-16-2009, 03:37 PM

Ask Poops.

Spider · 06-16-2009, 03:39 PM

I believe he would , we dont know what kind of team we will have this year ...... you cant go around second guessing yourself

Hotrod · 06-16-2009, 03:40 PM

I honestly cant imagine him making this move if he had any idea it would cost him his young star QB and WR

Spider · 06-16-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cap'n Snuggie

I honestly cant imagine him making this move if he had any idea it would cost him his young star QB and WR

Sure he would have , Bowlen could have stepped in and stopped Cutler from packing his panties and leavin .........

oubronco · 06-16-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cap'n Snuggie

I honestly cant imagine him making this move if he had any idea it would cost him his young star QB and WR

Oh hell we can win the superbowl with Orton and Loyd

bronclvr · 06-16-2009, 03:48 PM

I have experience taking over Companies that needed a change of "attitude"-in almost every case I had to clean house-this is no different, you need people on your side (not distractions), so I think for Fans to think that there would not be changes that might be painful is ignorant-

It almost hurts to say it, but I think McDaniels (if he can follow through) might make some meaningful changes in culture, and while I really liked Shanahan, I think he needed a change of scenery as he was complacent.

Atlas · 06-16-2009, 05:10 PM

Bowlen did the only smart thing he could do. Shanny was an overrated 2nd rate coach. McDaniels is going to be known as the Vince Lombardi of the 21 century. He is that good!!!!

FireFly · 06-16-2009, 05:32 PM

I think he'd still fire Shanny, but I don't think he'd hire McDaniels.

We needed change. But I don't know that we needed (need?) to be completely dismantled.

BMarsh615 · 06-16-2009, 05:41 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/fl...l&pollId=73094

Atlas · 06-16-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BMarsh615

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/fl...l&pollId=73094

HAHAHA That chart probably gives republicans a hard-on.

FireFly · 06-16-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BMarsh615

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/fl...l&pollId=73094

Northman · 06-16-2009, 05:57 PM

Poops knows all. But Firefly has got my girl Jewel so im a bit sidetracked now. Mmmmmmmm

broncosteven · 06-16-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlas

Bowlen did the only smart thing he could do. Shanny was an overrated 2nd rate coach. McDaniels is going to be known as the Vince Lombardi of the 21 century. He is that good!!!!

I was going to write that McStalin was soooo good that he could win without HIXON until I realized that HIXON kicked his ass in the SB.

We are going down on the Titanic.

broncosteven · 06-16-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cap'n Snuggie

If Bowlin had it to do again would he have still fired Shanny and brought in McD if he knew that it would end up with Cutler and Marshal leaving among other things?

BTW Who is Bowlin?

DHallblows · 06-16-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BMarsh615

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/fl...l&pollId=73094

I enjoy the fact that the only state even remotely close to voting "yes" is Mass. CANT imagine why

Atlas · 06-16-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by broncosteven

I was going to write that McStalin was soooo good that he could win without HIXON until I realized that HIXON kicked his ass in the SB.

We are going down on the Titanic.

If that's true buddy, I would be honored if you sat next to me at the bar when it did.

Atlas · 06-16-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BMarsh615

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/fl...l&pollId=73094

Study that chart and go over all the states. It's amazing how little variation there is. I mean you can't get americans to agree on anything but you can get them to agree at about a 78-22 clip that Josh McDaniels was NOT the right coach for the Broncos. That's incredible.
Could Bowlen be so brave and smart and he knows more than most people? Or is he an idiot that got sucked in by a nymph that had an awesome powerpoint presentation?

You know that's what it came down to. Josh sitting in there wooing Bowlen with his powerpoint presentation.

footstepsfrom#27 · 06-16-2009, 06:48 PM

If you stood in a puddle of water and stuck your finger in a light socket, would you do it again? No way he makes the same choice. I think he goes for Spags instead. Imagine how different this entire off season would look if he were here instead? Cutler and Marshall are here and we're probably all talking about Brian Orakpo instead of Alphonso Smith and Richard Quinn.

elsid13 · 06-16-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

If you stood in a puddle of water and stuck your finger in a light socket, would you do it again? No way he makes the same choice. I think he goes for Spags instead. Imagine how different this entire off season would look if he were here instead? Cutler and Marshall are here and we're probably all talking about Brian Orakpo instead of Alphonso Smith and Richard Quinn.

I bet it would be either Meeks or Dennison. Or the Goodman might still around and dictating the personnel and draft.

footstepsfrom#27 · 06-16-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DHallblows

I enjoy the fact that the only state even remotely close to voting "yes" is Mass. CANT imagine why

71% in Colorado agree with me...WOW...I expected it 51-49 or something just on the homer factor.

footstepsfrom#27 · 06-16-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DHallblows

I enjoy the fact that the only state even remotely close to voting "yes" is Mass. CANT imagine why

Well New Hamphire finished 50/50...just sayin'

Atlas · 06-16-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

Well New Hamphire finished 50/50...just sayin'

It just swinged towards McDaniel. It's not going to be a crushing 50-0 win.

Spider · 06-16-2009, 07:18 PM

I still think this was a good hire ,you learn through life to read people , actions , language , movement , these are tall tale signs , I think McD can talk the talk and walk the walk ......

gunns · 06-16-2009, 07:19 PM

I don't know if he still would hire McDaniels but I'm sure he still would have fired Shanahan. It was definitely time. As far as change being painful, yes it can be, but what happened with Cutler and Marshall has nada to do with the change. If nothing else the PR part of the Broncos is totally inept.

View Poll Results: Knowing what he does now would Bowlin still hire McD
No way in hell he makes this change knowing Cut/Marsh would be gone	26	55.32%
Yes change still needed to be made	11	23.40%
Other	4	8.51%
Ask Poops	6	12.77%
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

06-16-2009, 03:25 PM	#1
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	An honest poll/question from you Cap'n If Bowlin had it to do again would he have still fired Shanny and brought in McD if he knew that it would end up with Cutler and Marshal leaving among other things? Last edited by Hotrod; 06-16-2009 at 03:28 PM..

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06-16-2009, 03:37 PM	#2
24champ Livin' the dream! Methwolfe Alliance Captain Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 18,541 Adopt-a-Bronco: DomCasual	Ask Poops.

06-16-2009, 03:39 PM	#3
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I believe he would , we dont know what kind of team we will have this year ...... you cant go around second guessing yourself

06-16-2009, 03:40 PM	#4
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	I honestly cant imagine him making this move if he had any idea it would cost him his young star QB and WR

06-16-2009, 03:48 PM	#7
bronclvr Ring of Famer She is faster than you! 8.39 @ 156 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,996	I have experience taking over Companies that needed a change of "attitude"-in almost every case I had to clean house-this is no different, you need people on your side (not distractions), so I think for Fans to think that there would not be changes that might be painful is ignorant- It almost hurts to say it, but I think McDaniels (if he can follow through) might make some meaningful changes in culture, and while I really liked Shanahan, I think he needed a change of scenery as he was complacent.

06-16-2009, 05:10 PM	#8
Atlas Draft Defense Early&Often Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 18,526	Bowlen did the only smart thing he could do. Shanny was an overrated 2nd rate coach. McDaniels is going to be known as the Vince Lombardi of the 21 century. He is that good!!!!

06-16-2009, 05:32 PM	#9
FireFly Ring of Famer The window is open! Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,677	I think he'd still fire Shanny, but I don't think he'd hire McDaniels. We needed change. But I don't know that we needed (need?) to be completely dismantled.

06-16-2009, 05:41 PM	#10
BMarsh615 Ring of Famer 21’s No Champ Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,013 Adopt-a-Bronco: # 15	http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/fl...l&pollId=73094

06-16-2009, 05:57 PM	#13
Northman The Enigma Prognosis Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,925 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bryci	Poops knows all. But Firefly has got my girl Jewel so im a bit sidetracked now. Mmmmmmmm

06-16-2009, 06:48 PM	#19
footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,117 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	If you stood in a puddle of water and stuck your finger in a light socket, would you do it again? No way he makes the same choice. I think he goes for Spags instead. Imagine how different this entire off season would look if he were here instead? Cutler and Marshall are here and we're probably all talking about Brian Orakpo instead of Alphonso Smith and Richard Quinn.

06-16-2009, 07:18 PM	#24
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I still think this was a good hire ,you learn through life to read people , actions , language , movement , these are tall tale signs , I think McD can talk the talk and walk the walk ......

06-16-2009, 07:19 PM	#25
gunns I WANT DEFENSE! Defense, defense, defense Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Always Hoping Posts: 11,652 Adopt-a-Bronco: Defense	I don't know if he still would hire McDaniels but I'm sure he still would have fired Shanahan. It was definitely time. As far as change being painful, yes it can be, but what happened with Cutler and Marshall has nada to do with the change. If nothing else the PR part of the Broncos is totally inept.