How many games do we win if we trade Marshall? - The Orange Mane

Los Broncos · 06-16-2009, 11:14 AM

If we end up trading Marshall, which it looks like we will, how many do we win?

I say 5...

PRBronco · 06-16-2009, 11:18 AM

If we trade him for picks...I say we go 6-10 (I'm a homer for life)
If we trade him for a player who will log significant time on defense...we go 8-8. That's right.

Gort · 06-16-2009, 11:18 AM

the Broncos will go 11-5 with or without him.

so let it be written, so let it be done.

WINS: @CIN, CLE, @OAK, DAL, NE, @BAL, @WAS, SD, @KC, OAK, KC

or you can think of it this way...
- sweep KC
- sweep OAK
- split with SD
- beat 3 likely inferior teams (CIN, CLE, WAS)
- beat 2 likely superior teams in disarray (DAL, BAL)
- win a game that's personal for McD (NE).

Garcia Bronco · 06-16-2009, 11:19 AM

I think the question is how many games won't we lose. He cost us at least two games last season.

Hotrod · 06-16-2009, 11:19 AM

I'm going with 4-5 wins either way.

Popps · 06-16-2009, 11:23 AM

One million....

vancejohnson82 · 06-16-2009, 11:25 AM

why doesnt anyone see anything better?

the Falcons on paper were horrific....at least it seemed

Turner = Moreno
Ryan = Orton (ok, you can laugh there)
White = Royal

cmon!!

gyldenlove · 06-16-2009, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vancejohnson82

why doesnt anyone see anything better?

the Falcons on paper were horrific....at least it seemed

Turner = Moreno
Ryan = Orton (ok, you can laugh there)
White = Royal

cmon!!

The Falcons also replaced one of the worst head coaches in the league with a pretty good one. We replaced one of the best head coaches in the league.

broncsyanks · 06-16-2009, 11:58 AM

5 without him. i was predicting 8 with him. but ok. we trade him. were going to have a hell of a draft next year. woowhoo!! something to look foward to now. next years draft. great job bowlen. you and the front office sucks

NFLBRONCO · 06-16-2009, 12:02 PM

6 wins with him

SB without him

400HZ · 06-16-2009, 12:03 PM

CBF1 · 06-16-2009, 12:04 PM

NO difference at all. Marshall is not a game winner. 200+ catches the last 2 seasons, Zero playoff appearences. I have as many career playoff receptions as Brandon Marshall.

SoDak Bronco · 06-16-2009, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBF1

NO difference at all. Marshall is not a game winner. 200+ catches the last 2 seasons, Zero playoff appearences. I have as many career playoff receptions as Brandon Marshall.

you are a fool...lol wow are you serious with this take? Are you saying he caused us to lose games? It was that pathetic defense and terrible special teams along with costly turnovers. He was a big reason we did so well offensively.

SoDak Bronco · 06-16-2009, 12:09 PM

manchambo · 06-16-2009, 12:17 PM

Take an offense that moved the ball but had serious flaws last year, take away pro bowlers at QB and WR, add a raw but talented RB, and there's a large net loss.

You have a defense that hasn't added nearly as much talent as it needed to, and is trying to learn a new system. And that's really a dramatic thing when you're talking about converting linemen to LBs, etc. So even though there seems to be more talent there, I don't think that defense is much better this year.

I say 3-5 wins.

Beantown Bronco · 06-16-2009, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBF1

NO difference at all. Marshall is not a game winner. 200+ catches the last 2 seasons, Zero playoff appearences. I have as many career playoff receptions as Brandon Marshall.

Good to know that you are as good a Super Bowl QB as Dan Marino.

Meck77 · 06-16-2009, 12:27 PM

Answer: How could anyone even predict this when we don't know what we are facing in return?

CBF1 · 06-16-2009, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoDak Bronco

you are a fool...lol wow are you serious with this take? Are you saying he caused us to lose games? It was that pathetic defense and terrible special teams along with costly turnovers. He was a big reason we did so well offensively.

Hey butt dumpling, Read my post again and tell me where I claim he COST us a game.

CBF1 · 06-16-2009, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Good to know that you are as good a Super Bowl QB as Dan Marino.

No I am not, Atleast Marino made it to the playoffs

broncosteven · 06-16-2009, 12:44 PM

They had some Lindsay chick from the Denver Post on ESPN this morning who said even with Marshall this team would be hard pressed to win 4-6 games this year.

She said Denver should not trade him, they need to show a backbone.

I thought they should have had the "White Flag" trade/firesale moving Marshall and Champ before the trade. Just think we could have got Ayers and 2 more top DLinemen!

Now we are stuck with Cuter 2.0, the Whiney b**** who shouldn't drink because it makes him hit women and fall on McD' wrappers.

BroncoMan4ever · 06-16-2009, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyldenlove

The Falcons also replaced one of the worst head coaches in the league with a pretty good one. We replaced one of the best head coaches in the league.

Mike hadn't been one of the best coaches in the league since 2005. he was coming down to just being another coach in the league, and was no longer the offensive mastermind he used to be. he was skating by on accomplishments from a decade ago.

and to answer the original question, 11-5 with him, 10-6 without him.

SoDak Bronco · 06-16-2009, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBF1

Hey butt dumpling, Read my post again and tell me where I claim he COST us a game.

Butt dumpling? Wow are you in 3rd or 4th grade? Here is what you said... "NO difference at all. Marshall is not a game winner." The question was asked how many games do we win if we trade Bmarsh...Well, you are saying he is not a winner, aka he doesn't help us win, so if he doesn't help us, then he is probably in your opinion replaceable, and I am saying you are a fool for thinking that we can just put in Chad Jackson's of the world and get equal produciton (stats and wins). WE ARE WORSE AS A TEAM W/O him and if you don't see that, well sir, you are a bigger butt dumpling or whatever you called me.

kamakazi_kal · 06-16-2009, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBF1

NO difference at all. Marshall is not a game winner. 200+ catches the last 2 seasons, Zero playoff appearences. I have as many career playoff receptions as Brandon Marshall.

outdoor_miner · 06-16-2009, 01:14 PM

It completely depends what we get for him. If we get a player on par with Brandon's talents in a position of need (DL, WR, or maybe LB), I still think we can win 8 or 9 games this year.

If we only get draft picks, I think we are looking at 5 or 6 wins.

When I write that, it looks ridiculous, as it is basically crediting Marshall with enabling us to win 3 additional games this year. However, our offense looks a hell of a lot worse to me without him helping Orton...

kamakazi_kal · 06-16-2009, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever

and to answer the original question, 11-5 with him, 10-6 without him.

yeahhhhh pass that s%it to the left ..... puff, puff, give man.

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Gort Registered User Gort has left the building Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,648	the Broncos will go 11-5 with or without him. so let it be written, so let it be done. WINS: @CIN, CLE, @OAK, DAL, NE, @BAL, @WAS, SD, @KC, OAK, KC or you can think of it this way... - sweep KC - sweep OAK - split with SD - beat 3 likely inferior teams (CIN, CLE, WAS) - beat 2 likely superior teams in disarray (DAL, BAL) - win a game that's personal for McD (NE). Last edited by Gort; 06-16-2009 at 11:25 AM..

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06-16-2009, 11:18 AM	#2
PRBronco FML less Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Vancouver Posts: 4,206 Adopt-a-Bronco: I'm so alone	If we trade him for picks...I say we go 6-10 (I'm a homer for life) If we trade him for a player who will log significant time on defense...we go 8-8. That's right.

06-16-2009, 11:19 AM	#4
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	I think the question is how many games won't we lose. He cost us at least two games last season.

06-16-2009, 11:19 AM	#5
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	I'm going with 4-5 wins either way.

06-16-2009, 11:23 AM	#6
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	One million....

06-16-2009, 11:25 AM	#7
vancejohnson82 Drama and Mediocrity I'm Afraid of Ty Law Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Newark, NJ Posts: 5,989 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ	why doesnt anyone see anything better? the Falcons on paper were horrific....at least it seemed Turner = Moreno Ryan = Orton (ok, you can laugh there) White = Royal cmon!!

06-16-2009, 11:58 AM	#9
broncsyanks Broncos kick a$$!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nyc, NY Posts: 917	5 without him. i was predicting 8 with him. but ok. we trade him. were going to have a hell of a draft next year. woowhoo!! something to look foward to now. next years draft. great job bowlen. you and the front office sucks

06-16-2009, 12:02 PM	#10
NFLBRONCO Ring of Famer Go Nuggets Go Lakers Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lafayette Colorado Posts: 7,381	6 wins with him SB without him

06-16-2009, 12:04 PM	#12
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	NO difference at all. Marshall is not a game winner. 200+ catches the last 2 seasons, Zero playoff appearences. I have as many career playoff receptions as Brandon Marshall.

06-16-2009, 12:09 PM	#14
SoDak Bronco Lace em' up and lets go!! Von Miller aka QB Killa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Robert Ayers	4

06-16-2009, 12:17 PM	#15
manchambo Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,213	Take an offense that moved the ball but had serious flaws last year, take away pro bowlers at QB and WR, add a raw but talented RB, and there's a large net loss. You have a defense that hasn't added nearly as much talent as it needed to, and is trying to learn a new system. And that's really a dramatic thing when you're talking about converting linemen to LBs, etc. So even though there seems to be more talent there, I don't think that defense is much better this year. I say 3-5 wins.

06-16-2009, 12:27 PM	#17
Meck77 Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 16,307	Answer: How could anyone even predict this when we don't know what we are facing in return?

06-16-2009, 12:44 PM	#20
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,003 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	They had some Lindsay chick from the Denver Post on ESPN this morning who said even with Marshall this team would be hard pressed to win 4-6 games this year. She said Denver should not trade him, they need to show a backbone. I thought they should have had the "White Flag" trade/firesale moving Marshall and Champ before the trade. Just think we could have got Ayers and 2 more top DLinemen! Now we are stuck with Cuter 2.0, the Whiney b**** who shouldn't drink because it makes him hit women and fall on McD' wrappers.

06-16-2009, 01:14 PM	#24
outdoor_miner Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,097 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	It completely depends what we get for him. If we get a player on par with Brandon's talents in a position of need (DL, WR, or maybe LB), I still think we can win 8 or 9 games this year. If we only get draft picks, I think we are looking at 5 or 6 wins. When I write that, it looks ridiculous, as it is basically crediting Marshall with enabling us to win 3 additional games this year. However, our offense looks a hell of a lot worse to me without him helping Orton...