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Old 06-14-2009, 10:25 PM   #1
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I believe its over the election. But I haven't found a translation for it yet.

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Old 06-14-2009, 10:29 PM   #2
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Definitely the "election."

Another fraud, and another four years of the worst people running the show.

Iran is screaming for democracy. Something like half of the country is under 40. These people live under a complete dictatorship and they know it. Leading up to the election, internet sites like Facebook and Twitter were blocked, as well as text messaging and cell usage.

No independent groups monitor election.

So, the fraud is just a formality. You knew it was coming.
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That's why the USA should not use military force against Iran. It will change for the better on its own.
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Old 06-14-2009, 10:38 PM   #4
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That's why the USA should not use military force against Iran. It will change for the better on its own.
I'd like for us to help them once they begin to help themselves. Same with NK. Once the civilians start fighting the gov we could help with a revolution, or at the very least arm them.

It would be alot easier to help them if we werent in iraq and afgan
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Also, notice how the citizens help the officers after the incident? Shows they are just against what the officers stand for. It is a very good way to gain support.
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Old 06-14-2009, 10:45 PM   #6
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The U-S isn't going to provoke a military conflict with Iran as long as we are engaged in military operations in Iraq/Afghanistan and North Korea stands at the brink. Of course, North Korea is always on the brink. The only question no-one has ever been able to answer with any conviction is; on the brink of what?

The hope is that Iran will collapse from the weight of it's own hypocrisy. Wasn't it's glorious 'revolution' an exercise to rid itself of the tyranny of the Shah only to take on the tyranny of the cleric, and looney tunes clerics to boot.
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Old 06-14-2009, 10:47 PM   #7
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I'd like for us to help them once they begin to help themselves. Same with NK. Once the civilians start fighting the gov we could help with a revolution, or at the very least arm them.

It would be alot easier to help them if we werent in iraq and afgan
Those steps already have been taken.We do fund and arm opposition in Iran. It's been that way for YEARS. Special forces have been in Iran the last few years.
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They could also be upset about there being no Lakers parade.
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Old 06-14-2009, 11:12 PM   #9
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This is the NBA thread being locked all over again. Kick the tires and light the fires.
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Old 06-14-2009, 11:16 PM   #10
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Also, notice how the citizens help the officers after the incident? Shows they are just against what the officers stand for. It is a very good way to gain support.
Yep.

That small piece of film tells you so much about what's happening over there.
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I'm rooting for the Iranian people to stand up and have a Civil War.

While I'm an advocate of the United States military, the college age people of Iran are part of a modernizing boom (ie. internet, pop culture etc). The Religious fanatics and authoritarian leadership is no longer sitting well due to an increase in education about the freedoms that many other nations enjoy.

It would be kick ass to see a moderate leadership in Iran that cares about the progress of it's own people rather than the destruction of others at the cost of oppressing their own.
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Old 06-15-2009, 06:42 AM   #13
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I believe its over the election. But I haven't found a translation for it yet.

The translation = Just like Bush's "win".
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Old 06-15-2009, 07:31 AM   #14
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Old 06-15-2009, 07:44 AM   #15
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Here's the huffpo blog that's doing a good job of collecting all the news and tweets coming out: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_215189.html

I've been following it for several days...
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Old 06-15-2009, 07:46 AM   #16
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That's why the USA should not use military force against Iran. It will change for the better on its own.
You could be right. But everything does not always work out for the better--especially when the government runs and controls everything.
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12:21 PM ET -- Gunfire at Azari Square. Oh no.

# URGENT -- People were seen running in panic after the gunfire but it is unclear if anyone has been shot. Details to come.4 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters

# URGENT -- Iranian state TV says gunfire has erupted at the pro-Mousavi rally in Tehran where hundreds of thousands of people were protesting4 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters

# BULLETIN -- GUNFIRE ERUPTS AT PRO-MOUSAVI RALLY IN TEHRAN, PEOPLE RUNNING.


More: @abzole People are getting killed in Azadi Sq.

@laraabcnews: Iranian State TV reports gun shots at Mousavi rally; AP photog sees govt militia fire at protesters #Iranelection

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Those steps already have been taken.We do fund and arm opposition in Iran. It's been that way for YEARS. Special forces have been in Iran the last few years.
No they haven't.
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:13 AM   #19
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Strangely, this "election" pitted the old, poor, conservative, agrarian - or rural - religiously controlled, uneducated, superstitous, and fearful population against the urbane, young, educated, hopeful population looking for change in the domestic and foriegn policies of the previous years.

Go get 'em kids....
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You can't believe any reports coming out of Iran. I can't believe the current regime actually had elections.

Oh well, now they know who voted against them and now they can um, clean out the opposition...
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That's why the USA should not use military force against Iran. It will change for the better on its own.
There is absolutely nothing positive to be gained from United States military action against Iran. An invasion would be a nightmare. Twice the nightmare of Iraq. Ahmadinejad might be a fleshed out Looney Toons character, but he still has much more legitimacy and popular support than Saddam Hussein had. If you think that even a tiny fraction of the Iranian population would support an American invasion of their country then you are freakin high.
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:19 AM   #22
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Was this one of those rigged elections with one candidate?
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I can't believe no one has linked the "Iran So Far" video by Andy Samberg yet! I can't find one that works in Canada

"You're like a very hairy Jake Gyllenhaal to me". Classic.
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:22 AM   #24
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Was this one of those rigged elections with one candidate?
There was actually 4 I believe. I was also shocked to hear that they actually had elections there.
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Ahmedinejackass is doing just fine making the people of Iran revolt. We need to sit back and let it happen. They replayed his interview with Larry King last night from awhile back. He's a world class liar. His lies will work out as well as the did for the Soviet Union. Ooops former soviet unnion.
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