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Old 06-13-2009, 09:10 PM   #1
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Teen with 47 IQ gets 100 years for child sex abuse

PARIS, Texas (AP) — A teenager who has profound mental disabilities was sentenced to 100 years in prison after pleading guilty to charges in a sex abuse case involving his 6-year-old neighbor.

Aaron Hart, 18, of Paris, was arrested and charged after a neighbor found him fondling her stepson in September. The teen pleaded guilty to five counts, including aggravated sexual assault and indecency by contact, and a jury decided his punishment.

Lamar County Judge Eric Clifford decided to stack the sentences against Hart after jurors settled on two five-year terms and three 30-year terms, The Dallas Morning News reported Wednesday. The judge said neither he nor jurors liked the idea of prison for Hart but they felt there was no other option.

"In the state of Texas, there isn't a whole lot you can do with somebody like him," Clifford said.

Hart has an IQ of 47 and was diagnosed as mentally disabled as a child. He never learned to read or write and speaks unsteadily.

Despite being a target of bullies, he was courteous, well-behaved and earned money by doing chores for neighbors, supporters said. His parents say he'd never acted out sexually.

"He couldn't understand the seriousness of what he did," said his father, Robert Hart. "I never dreamed they would think about sending him to prison. When they said 100 years — it was terror, pure terror, to me."

Jurors said they sent the judge notes during deliberations in February, asking about alternatives to prison, but didn't get a clear answer. They believed the judge would order concurrent sentences, jurors said.

District Attorney Gary Young said he sympathized with Hart's situation but stands by his decision to prosecute on five counts. Prosecutors commonly pursue several charges for a single incident to see which the jury will support.

Young said a diversion program was not an option since the law doesn't allow that for serious felonies.

"I hope people will remember he committed a violent sexual crime against a little boy," he said.

Hart's appellate attorney, David Pearson, said the court-appointed doctor did the bare minimum to assess competency and ran tests geared for mental illness, not mental retardation.

He said an appeal will be filed.
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Old 06-13-2009, 09:17 PM   #2
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oh good lord... to not even look into any other type of treatment is just plain not doing your job

EDIT: this is somehow McDaniels fault right?
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Old 06-13-2009, 09:24 PM   #3
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oh good lord... to not even look into any other type of treatment is just plain not doing your job

EDIT: this is somehow McDaniels fault right?
Good start.
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:18 PM   #4
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Oooooooh Texas, you're so dumb...
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:30 PM   #5
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100 years in prison?!
Here's an IQ question.

If Aaron Hart does 805 and a half push ups a day in Prison,how many will he do in 100 years?
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:38 PM   #6
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IQ 47? So he's 20 ahead of Punisher Give him the chair.
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:40 PM   #7
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To be honest I don't think the kid deserves prison. I think he should go into a mental ward or something, he's not a vicious killer or anything. He's just really ****ing messed up.
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IQ 47? So he's 20 ahead of Punisher Give him the chair.
Hell No at least I'm smart enough, to know not to rape a little boy what a dumb ass.Just rape a Chicken instead dumb people these days
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Seriously though, 47 is in the "moderate retardation" category.

Isn't this picked up by amniocentesis (spelling?) ?

I'm not saying retarded people don't deserve the gift of life, but it has to be such a toll on the parents and families that they should be very certain that they're capable of undertaking that responsibility before deciding to have it.

This apparently wasn't one of those cases and now some poor little girl will have her life ruined by trauma.

Edit: Oh **** it was a little boy. Can't wait for that shooting spree when this angry at the world kid grows up and finds a future gun (possibly laser)
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To be honest I don't think the kid deserves prison. I think he should go into a mental ward or something, he's not a vicious killer or anything. He's just really ****ing messed up.
I don't think he deserves prison either.

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IQ 47? So he's 20 ahead of Punisher Give him the chair.
And still 20 behind Bush, whose a racist. Couldn't they just taser him?
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Old 06-13-2009, 11:05 PM   #12
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Teen with 47 IQ gets 100 years for child sex abuse

PARIS, Texas (AP) — A teenager who has profound mental disabilities was sentenced to 100 years in prison after pleading guilty to charges in a sex abuse case involving his 6-year-old neighbor.

Aaron Hart, 18, of Paris, was arrested and charged after a neighbor found him fondling her stepson in September. The teen pleaded guilty to five counts, including aggravated sexual assault and indecency by contact, and a jury decided his punishment.

Lamar County Judge Eric Clifford decided to stack the sentences against Hart after jurors settled on two five-year terms and three 30-year terms, The Dallas Morning News reported Wednesday. The judge said neither he nor jurors liked the idea of prison for Hart but they felt there was no other option.

"In the state of Texas, there isn't a whole lot you can do with somebody like him," Clifford said.

Hart has an IQ of 47 and was diagnosed as mentally disabled as a child. He never learned to read or write and speaks unsteadily.

Despite being a target of bullies, he was courteous, well-behaved and earned money by doing chores for neighbors, supporters said. His parents say he'd never acted out sexually.

"He couldn't understand the seriousness of what he did," said his father, Robert Hart. "I never dreamed they would think about sending him to prison. When they said 100 years — it was terror, pure terror, to me."

Jurors said they sent the judge notes during deliberations in February, asking about alternatives to prison, but didn't get a clear answer. They believed the judge would order concurrent sentences, jurors said.

District Attorney Gary Young said he sympathized with Hart's situation but stands by his decision to prosecute on five counts. Prosecutors commonly pursue several charges for a single incident to see which the jury will support.

Young said a diversion program was not an option since the law doesn't allow that for serious felonies.

"I hope people will remember he committed a violent sexual crime against a little boy," he said.

Hart's appellate attorney, David Pearson, said the court-appointed doctor did the bare minimum to assess competency and ran tests geared for mental illness, not mental retardation.

He said an appeal will be filed.

It is common for mentally retarded individuals to be unable to control their libido.

This case will probably be overturned. Very bad judgment there...exceptionally inappropriate verdict and sentance. The mentally handicapped fellow will not be rehabilitated in prison.
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I say cut funding for special ed programs and just set them loose. What can happen, right?
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I worked with these types and it is way simpler to sterilize them and keep them from doing this kind of thing again .

They gave this sentence problay to set up the choice sterilize or the time .

Popps what the sam hell are you talking about ?
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Old 06-14-2009, 07:22 AM   #15
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Teen with 47 IQ gets 100 years for child sex abuse

PARIS, Texas (AP) — A teenager who has profound mental disabilities was sentenced to 100 years in prison after pleading guilty to charges in a sex abuse case involving his 6-year-old neighbor.

Aaron Hart, 18, of Paris, was arrested and charged after a neighbor found him fondling her stepson in September. The teen pleaded guilty to five counts, including aggravated sexual assault and indecency by contact, and a jury decided his punishment.

Lamar County Judge Eric Clifford decided to stack the sentences against Hart after jurors settled on two five-year terms and three 30-year terms, The Dallas Morning News reported Wednesday. The judge said neither he nor jurors liked the idea of prison for Hart but they felt there was no other option.

"In the state of Texas, there isn't a whole lot you can do with somebody like him," Clifford said.

Hart has an IQ of 47 and was diagnosed as mentally disabled as a child. He never learned to read or write and speaks unsteadily.

Despite being a target of bullies, he was courteous, well-behaved and earned money by doing chores for neighbors, supporters said. His parents say he'd never acted out sexually.

"He couldn't understand the seriousness of what he did," said his father, Robert Hart. "I never dreamed they would think about sending him to prison. When they said 100 years — it was terror, pure terror, to me."

Jurors said they sent the judge notes during deliberations in February, asking about alternatives to prison, but didn't get a clear answer. They believed the judge would order concurrent sentences, jurors said.

District Attorney Gary Young said he sympathized with Hart's situation but stands by his decision to prosecute on five counts. Prosecutors commonly pursue several charges for a single incident to see which the jury will support.

Young said a diversion program was not an option since the law doesn't allow that for serious felonies.

"I hope people will remember he committed a violent sexual crime against a little boy," he said.

Hart's appellate attorney, David Pearson, said the court-appointed doctor did the bare minimum to assess competency and ran tests geared for mental illness, not mental retardation.

He said an appeal will be filed.
I work at Mexia State School in Texas. It's a place for Mentally Retarded individuals. He should be sent here, not prison.

http://www.dads.state.tx.us/services...ols/mexia.html
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Old 06-14-2009, 07:42 AM   #16
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The kid shouldn't be sent to prison they are in no way equipped to handle his special needs just a flat stupid decision by an idiot judge..
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The kid shouldn't be sent to prison they are in no way equipped to handle his special needs just a flat stupid decision by an idiot judge..
he will not go they probably will sterilize him and let him go back with his parents . This was a bad wright up and I am sure it is not in depth .

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man .......... Texicans need to succeed ......... hell even in Wyoming , they have resources to help someone out like this kid . It is Called Colorado...........
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man .......... Texicans need to succeed ......... hell even in Wyoming , they have resources to help someone out like this kid . It is Called Colorado...........

If they succeed I wonder if there will be 17 Zars to look over what companies can and can not do . Russian style ?!?!!?
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he will not go they probably will stylize him and let him go back with his parents .
Would that help?
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man .......... Texicans need to succeed ......... hell even in Wyoming , they have resources to help someone out like this kid . It is Called Colorado...........
Ceceed is the word you are looking for moron.

And Texas can not ceceed.

And Texas is certainly not the only state that has some moronic judgements passed down upon individuals. Every state in the union has their share of idiocy, Wyoming included.
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Would that help?
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Ceceed is the word you are looking for moron.
It is secede. Come on Alex
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It is secede. Come on Alex
Love it when "moron" is followed by a spelling error. How tough is it to check?
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