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Old 06-13-2009, 03:40 PM   #1
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Gotta like these detail oriented drills they are running. Don't recall so much of these kind of reports in the past.

Minicamp: Day Two
June 13th, 2009 - 3:11pm by Gray Caldwell

On a day when Head Coach Josh McDaniels named Kyle Orton the starter at quarterback, there was plenty to report from practice.
.................................................. .....................................

Now here are a few snippets from Saturday’s practice.

MAKING PLAYS


Last season, the Broncos defense didn’t cause many turnovers. So the coaching staff has clearly made it a point to work on that statistic this offseason.

During Saturday’s practice, one defensive back would line up five yards behind a receiver while another lined up about 15 yards ahead. Defensive backs coach Ed Donatell blew the whistle and threw the ball to the receiver, who took off. The trailing DB chased down the receiver, who was being held up by the DB who lined up in front, and practiced punching the ball out to cause a fumble.

It’s all about teaching that if you’re not the first man to the tackle, try to strip the ball.


SWARMING DEFENSE


The defense was everywhere today. From Lou Green diving to break up a pass before it reached Brandon Stokley to Andra Davis snagging an interception after a pass bounced of a helmet, most of the breaks in today’s practice went the defense’s way.

That’s not to say the defense wasn’t making its own breaks. Jack Williams also had an interception, Alphonso Smith batted a ball at the line of scrimmage, found it in the air and grabbed the pick, and Robert Ayers had an interception he returned for a touchdown before being mobbed by the defense.

A few breaks fell the way of the offense, however. Josh Barrett had an interception in his hands that slipped through his fingers — and Eddie Royal quickly dove and grabbed the ball before it hit the ground. In another instance, a ball was batted into the air, but rookie Kenny McKinley swooped in to grab it and head upfield before the defense could capitalize.

QUICK HITS


# During a drill in the red zone, Orton asked Jabar Gaffney before a route whether he likes high passes or line drives when he’s running routes into the end zone. Just in case you’re an AFC West defensive back reading this blog, I won’t tell you the answer. Just know that the next play was a touchdown.

# A few days ago, the defensive line used a JUGS machine to practice swatting passes at the line of scrimmage. It seems to be an effective drill, as several balls were knocked down at Saturday’s practice. Jarvis Moss twice made the play.

# Knowshon Moreno, who took some reps with the first group today, caught two touchdowns out of the backfield. On one play, he ran a route out of the backfield and caught the ball over his shoulder before kicking it into gear and sprinting past the defense down the sideline for a long score. On another, he caught it behind the line of scrimmage and simply beat his man to the sideline before diving at the pylon.

# Every day at practice, the quarterbacks, running backs, tight ends and receivers run through a drill where coaches try to strip the ball. Chad Jackson has been the joker of the group — once the players are through the line, he tries to knock the ball out of teammates’ arms from behind. Today he popped the ball away from Peyton Hillis, who snatched it back out of the air. Meanwhile, Ryan Torain — who participated in practice for the second day in a row — tried to smack the ball away from Jackson at the same time.

# Tim Crowder continued to get some work at outside linebacker with the first group, alongside Ryan McBean, Ronald Fields and Kenny Peterson on the line, Andra Davis, D.J. Williams and Robert Ayers at linebacker and Champ Bailey, Andre’ Goodman, Brian Dawkins and Renaldo Hill in the secondary.

http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denver...icamp-day-two/

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And Orton was there handing out some cold Bud to everybody while Simms was on the Bar-B-Q

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thats great stuff...

amazing how teams with good coaching have less free agent flops and draft busts than other teams...

its so funny how that works...
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Instead of making another thread I'll just piggie-back this:

Saturday minicamp notes

by Lindsay Jones on June 13, 2009


The big news out of Broncos’ camp today was the official announcement that Kyle Orton is the team’s starting quarterback. No big shock there, though I was a tad surprised Josh McDaniels decided to end the battle so soon, even though it was clear by midway through Saturday’s practice that Orton was taking all of the first-team reps.

McDaniels said he expected the Orton and Chris Simms to continue to push each other, but that Orton had established himself as the clear No. 1.

“That certainly doesn’t mean there won’t be competition now or in training camp, because there will. Chris has a great attitude and is going to continue to push,” McDaniels said. “Kyle has the job right now, but we’ll see if he can keep it. That’s what will make those two players better.”

On to other non-QB news …

- The offense practiced for a bit in an I-formation goal-line package, with Peyton Hillis as the fullback. LaMont Jordan too the first rep at tailback, followed by Correll Buckhalter then Knowshon Moreno.

- The entire defense spent a period working on turnover drills. For defensive backs, that entailed a drill where one player acted like a tailback or wide receiver, sprinting at full speed while the defensive back charged from behind to try to strip the ball. Defensive linemen and linebackers worked on fumble recovery.

- Punters Brett Kern and Britton Colquitt spent a long period working with the full punt team practicing directional kicking, trying to punt the ball to the right side line. The returners included Eddie Royal, Alphonso Smith and Kenny McKinley.

- The first-team goal line defense was as follows: D-linemen Ryan McBean and Kenny Peterson at DE and Ronald Fields at NT; Tim Crowder, Robert Ayers, D.J. Williams, Andre Davis and Mario Haggan at linebacker and safeties Brian Dawkins, Renaldo Hill and Josh Barrett.

- The wide receivers and tight ends spent a period working on “top shelfing” — catching passes at the very back of the end zone. During this time, Josh McDaniels worked closely with the receivers, and ran around like a corner back while the receivers executed their routes. He’s quite the hands-on coach, literally.

- D.J. Williams must be liking his new position, because he never leaves the field. Williams, playing the Jack linebacker spot — one of two inside linebacker positions — is on the field for the base, nickel and dime packages.

- Second-year cornerback Jack Williams has been a pleasant surprise in his role at nickel corner. He intercepted Orton and batted down a pass in front of Eddie Royal in the end zone Saturday.

- The team practiced its hurry-up offense at the end of practice. Brandon Stokely and Jabar Gaffney each caught passes from Orton as the offense moved down the field. A pass intended for Royal was broken up by D.J. Williams.

- No one was scoring the practice, obviously, but Saturday appeared to be a better day for the defense than the offense. This is not uncommon for this time of year.

- More music at practice Saturday, though a much more unconventional playlist that included Kenny Chesney and Sugar Hill Gang on back-to-back songs. Probably the only place that’s ever happened before. Saturday’s award for best sideline dancer goes to No. 2 punter Britton Colquitt for his smooth moves to “Rapper’s Delight.”
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Seems that the newer staff is coaching more about turnovers than the old staff talked about turnovers.
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The new coaching staff will make their money coaching... if their leader doesn't screw it up before they have that chance.

Sugar Hill Gang...The hip hop the hibbit

That's pretty funny.
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Kinda so-so on what to feel right now. Who knows if Orton is gonna have a goo year and this coaching staff is acting like were supposed to win the SB. Hopefully this team will turn heads....we'll just have to wait and see. Go Broncos
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That's pretty funny.
Thats pretty lame. So far he got rid of a team cancer and he is handeling Marhsall the right way. Can't say he has screwed up too much other than maybe the draft.
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I really like the sound of this new coaching style. If nothing else it comes with a change of culture and mentality, which was sorely needed.

Hopefully this translates into on the fielf performance, but I'm glad to hear that it sounds like the players are really taking to the new coaching regime and techniques.
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Sounds good. Wish we had a quarterback.
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We do 2 of them. Less talent than Cutleaf but tons more mental ability.
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Taco,

From my promise to you earlier today...

“That certainly doesn’t mean there won’t be competition now or in training camp, because there will. Chris has a great attitude and is going to continue to push,” McDaniels said. “Kyle has the job right now, but we’ll see if he can keep it. That’s what will make those two players better.”


We'll continue to hear this... and I believe it's at least partially true.
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- The entire defense spent a period working on turnover drills.

I swear to god, I got the feeling that our past defenses NEVER worked on this.

I've asked these questions on this board what feels like thousands of times, but I just wondered if the old regime worked on things like batting down balls, stripping balls. You always saw teams doing it against us, and you NEVER saw our guys doing it.

Very encouraging. We'll see if it pays off, but it's very encouraging to hear the approach we're taking.
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Heav/Hulamau...

Thanks to you guys for keeping a flow of decent reading coming to the board, despite there not being much.
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Gotta like these detail oriented drills they are running. Don't recall so much of these kid of reports in the past.

Minicamp: Day Two
June 13th, 2009 - 3:11pm by Gray Caldwell

On a day when Head Coach Josh McDaniels named Kyle Orton the starter at quarterback, there was plenty to report from practice.
.................................................. .....................................

Now here are a few snippets from Saturday’s practice.

MAKING PLAYS


Last season, the Broncos defense didn’t cause many turnovers. So the coaching staff has clearly made it a point to work on that statistic this offseason.

During Saturday’s practice, one defensive back would line up five yards behind a receiver while another lined up about 15 yards ahead. Defensive backs coach Ed Donatell blew the whistle and threw the ball to the receiver, who took off. The trailing DB chased down the receiver, who was being held up by the DB who lined up in front, and practiced punching the ball out to cause a fumble.

It’s all about teaching that if you’re not the first man to the tackle, try to strip the ball.


SWARMING DEFENSE


The defense was everywhere today. From Lou Green diving to break up a pass before it reached Brandon Stokley to Andra Davis snagging an interception after a pass bounced of a helmet, most of the breaks in today’s practice went the defense’s way.

That’s not to say the defense wasn’t making its own breaks. Jack Williams also had an interception, Alphonso Smith batted a ball at the line of scrimmage, found it in the air and grabbed the pick, and Robert Ayers had an interception he returned for a touchdown before being mobbed by the defense.

A few breaks fell the way of the offense, however. Josh Barrett had an interception in his hands that slipped through his fingers — and Eddie Royal quickly dove and grabbed the ball before it hit the ground. In another instance, a ball was batted into the air, but rookie Kenny McKinley swooped in to grab it and head upfield before the defense could capitalize.

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# During a drill in the red zone, Orton asked Jabar Gaffney before a route whether he likes high passes or line drives when he’s running routes into the end zone. Just in case you’re an AFC West defensive back reading this blog, I won’t tell you the answer. Just know that the next play was a touchdown.

# A few days ago, the defensive line used a JUGS machine to practice swatting passes at the line of scrimmage. It seems to be an effective drill, as several balls were knocked down at Saturday’s practice. Jarvis Moss twice made the play.

# Knowshon Moreno, who took some reps with the first group today, caught two touchdowns out of the backfield. On one play, he ran a route out of the backfield and caught the ball over his shoulder before kicking it into gear and sprinting past the defense down the sideline for a long score. On another, he caught it behind the line of scrimmage and simply beat his man to the sideline before diving at the pylon.# Every day at practice, the quarterbacks, running backs, tight ends and receivers run through a drill where coaches try to strip the ball. Chad Jackson has been the joker of the group — once the players are through the line, he tries to knock the ball out of teammates’ arms from behind. Today he popped the ball away from Peyton Hillis, who snatched it back out of the air. Meanwhile, Ryan Torain — who participated in practice for the second day in a row — tried to smack the ball away from Jackson at the same time.

# Tim Crowder continued to get some work at outside linebacker with the first group, alongside Ryan McBean, Ronald Fields and Kenny Peterson on the line, Andra Davis, D.J. Williams and Robert Ayers at linebacker and Champ Bailey, Andre’ Goodman, Brian Dawkins and Renaldo Hill in the secondary.

http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denver...icamp-day-two/
but, but, isn't he too slow..........Moreno barring injury will be very good!!
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We do 2 of them. Less talent than Cutleaf but tons more mental ability.
Yeah, i guess we have to hope. Is there any way Trent Green would be an upgrade?
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I wonder who is playing second on the NT. Baker has not been mentioned at all that I can see.....
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- The entire defense spent a period working on turnover drills.

I swear to god, I got the feeling that our past defenses NEVER worked on this.

I've asked these questions on this board what feels like thousands of times, but I just wondered if the old regime worked on things like batting down balls, stripping balls. You always saw teams doing it against us, and you NEVER saw our guys doing it.

Very encouraging. We'll see if it pays off, but it's very encouraging to hear the approach we're taking.
i can't think of anything that our defensive coaches were working our players on the past few seasons. none could tackle, turnovers almost non existant it was just garbage.
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but, but, isn't he too slow..........Moreno barring injury will be very good!!
I think that's what most people have been knocking him about... the injuries... can he be a bellcow?

I doubt it although I like him as a person, a lot.

Still, having a backfield that consists of Moreno and Hillis is going to open up a lot of underneath opportunities out of the proset for our QB's.
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Saturday minicamp notes

by Lindsay Jones on June 13, 2009


The big news out of Broncos’ camp today was the official announcement that Kyle Orton is the team’s starting quarterback. No big shock there, though I was a tad surprised Josh McDaniels decided to end the battle so soon, even though it was clear by midway through Saturday’s practice that Orton was taking all of the first-team reps.

McDaniels said he expected the Orton and Chris Simms to continue to push each other, but that Orton had established himself as the clear No. 1.

“That certainly doesn’t mean there won’t be competition now or in training camp, because there will. Chris has a great attitude and is going to continue to push,” McDaniels said. “Kyle has the job right now, but we’ll see if he can keep it. That’s what will make those two players better.”
Think this was a quote from Popps :-)

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We do 2 of them. Less talent than Cutleaf but tons more mental ability.
Why do they have ton's more mental ability am i missing something on this one. Also how is McDaniels handling the Brandon Marshall the right way I dont even think he was at the last meeting.
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Thats pretty lame. So far he got rid of a team cancer and he is handeling Marhsall the right way. Can't say he has screwed up too much other than maybe the draft.
There is more controversy and negativity surrounding the Broncos during the offseason than EVER before. That includes the year after Elway retired and the Brister/Griese mess. We are on the verge of losing ALL THREE of our players that were selected to the Pro-Bowl. THAT is lame for a once proud franchise to have so many question marks entering training camp. And finally, what has Xanders, Bowlen, and McD accomplished this offseason to make you feel that we are better off than we were 6 1/2 months ago? Personnel decisions have been questionable at best. The way they've handled personnel has been poor. The personnel that they have brought in and drafted all have bought into the concept of team first, which is good. But, when you rock the boat from side to side and then forward and aft you end up with a rolling affect. The disorientation from that rocking is just now settling and now we are trying to figure out in which direction we are heading.

This much is certain. Without Cutler we are weaker at QB. Without Weigman we are much weaker on the OL. That loss affects everyone on the OL, especially younger players like Harris, Clady, and Kuper who benefited from a smart Center making the OL calls and adjustments. Finally, the weaker QB we have is now that much more ineffective with the loss of our best WR. Oh, and let me remind you of this little snippet from a great set of posts on Mr.Marshall, "Champ may be the best cover corner in the league and he can't stop Marshall. He just does things that no one can. I was literally feet away from him when he made his two best catches in the endzone. If I didn't see what I just saw I wouldn't believe it." and then there's this one too, "I don't think that but I do think our offense and defense will be greatly improved. But we aren't at elite status yet. Except Marshall he really can be a HOF player if he gets his head right."

Not saying that he is handling BMarsh incorrectly. In fact, I think McD is doing a great job with BMarsh, and I think BMarsh is doing a good job by keeping this whole thing in house. I do think that it will eventually end up in the nation media if it lasts into camp. Unlike most, I think the Broncos image stands to lose a lot here... more than BMarsh anyway. Yeah, he's had some off field problems. But he's produced at a very high level over time and he's played injured giving the team everything he has... image is important and if the Broncos ruin their image anymore, they are in serious trouble. You know this as well as the next guy Nick, guys want to play in the national spotlight. For years we would have 4, 5, and 6 games in primetime spots. Thursdays, Saturdays, Sunday Nights, and Monday night games were the norm... where are we now?
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- The entire defense spent a period working on turnover drills.

I swear to god, I got the feeling that our past defenses NEVER worked on this.

I've asked these questions on this board what feels like thousands of times, but I just wondered if the old regime worked on things like batting down balls, stripping balls. You always saw teams doing it against us, and you NEVER saw our guys doing it.

Very encouraging. We'll see if it pays off, but it's very encouraging to hear the approach we're taking.
No and No. I remember last year during the Cowboys/Broncos TC days, watching some drills that Dave Campo was running with the Cowboy's secondary. The secondary players would line up near the sideline and Campo would stand about 8 yards away (inbounds) and roll the ball toward the sideline. The players would then have to run along the sideline and make a play on the rolling ball. Seems simple enough, but b/c of the awkward roll/bounce of the ball, the players were forced to concentrate and snatch the ball while running. Not a fall on the ball drill but rather a pick it up/pluck it and return it type drill. Not sure how much success the Cowboy's secondary had last season, but I don't recall the Broncos ever working anything similar.

As for the drill the Broncos were running with two defenders, the second one making a play on the ball... I ran that last year with my 7/8 year olds. We called it our clean up drill. First guy to the ball wraps, second guy makes a play on the ball while cleaning the ball carrier's clock. Novel idea... and this goes further to my belief in this coaching staff, ON THE FIELD.
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Man you guys make assumptions. Show me where Weigmann is holding out until then thats an even weaker argument.

And correction they will be weaker without Cutler btw the 20's but no where it counts. Funny but I don't think the majority of the team feel the same way you do. Call it a "gut" feeling. The same feeling shared by Alfred Williams, former Bronco, who spoke with the players and had to apologize to Scott Hastings for calling that bogus as they told him the same thing.

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thats great stuff...

amazing how teams with good coaching have less free agent flops and draft busts than other teams...

its so funny how that works...
yep like NE for instance right ?
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