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Old 06-11-2009, 10:55 PM   #1
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Default Bronco QB Club - highlight film and Saccomano

Tonight I attended the May meeting of the Bronco Quarterback Club. They showed the 2008 highlight film and long time Broncos PR man Jim Saccomano answered questions from the group.

The highlight film focused on the young players that are still with the team. Short segments featured Royal, Marshall, Larsen, and Hillis. Some of the big victories were spotlighted, like the San Diego and New Orleans home wins and the Jets and Atlanta road wins. Whoever did the editing did a good job of editing out Cutler wherever they could. In watching the film often I'd see a pass flying in the air and a great catch by Royal, Marshall, etc without seeing who even threw it!

The most interesting part of the highlight film was McDaniels miked up during one of the team's minicamps. In one segment Josh is shown talking to another coach saying "can you believe (Royal) only got the ball 20 times last year on returns" Then McDaniels is shown going up to Royal saying "you're going to get it 45 times this year!"

After I got home I checked the stats and Royal had 23 kickoff returns last year - so from this I'm guessing we'll see Eddie on alot more kickoff returns this season.

McDaniels is very hands on in his practice sessions. I've seen this in some clips on tv and it is even more emphasized in the highlight film.

After the film, Saccamono did a good job of answering any questions the audience had about the team. Someone asked about Alphonso Smith and Saccamono said "McDaniels likes his cornerbacks to be in the 5'9 to 5'10 range - he thinks 6'1" cornerbacks can't cover the speedy little receivers like the Eddie Royals". (Smith is actually a little shorter than that but you get the idea - McDaniels thinks height is overrated in cornerback play). I asked him if he was surprised Shanahan was fired. He said not really - he knew that Bowlen had been unhappy with the team's performance for quite some time. On the Cutler issue, Sacco thought agent Bus Cook had a big part in it and that the team has "phone records" showing the multiple calls to Cutler with no return calls from Jay. In contrast, Brandon Marshall called McDaniels from the recovery room after Brandon's recent surgery saying "I'll be ok, coach" (Marshall will report on Friday according to Sacco)

Saccamono is a PR guy, not a football coach, so some of the more detailed football questions he dodged (like "what rookies are looking good in camp?"). The qb club is working on getting McDaniels for a future meeting which would be great - I always liked Shanahan's past appearances as it was a chance for the average fan like myself to ask questions direct to the coach.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:06 PM   #2
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Good post ... first substantial thing in a while ...

come on training camp and regular season.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:10 PM   #3
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Always look forward to your QB club reports. thanks
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Thanks for the updates

I don't like Royal returning kicks even though he is by far the best kick returner we have on our team. He is just too small, and we can't afford to get him hurt.
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Thanks for the info, good post.
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Thanks for the updates

I don't like Royal returning kicks even though he is by far the best kick returner we have on our team. He is just too small, and we can't afford to get him hurt.
I agree with you - I didn't like to hear this either. Generally I am supportive of McDaniels but there's just too much risk of injury on kickoff returns (remember Q and D Williams were injured on kick returns). Punt returns are OK - less risk of injury there.
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:11 AM   #7
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I think this team is about to throw caution to the wind.
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I think this team is about to throw caution to the wind.
...or piss into it.
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:33 AM   #9
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After the film, Saccamono did a good job of answering any questions the audience had about the team...I asked him if he was surprised Shanahan was fired. He said not really - he knew that Bowlen had been unhappy with the team's performance for quite some time.
That's a very strange statement. Shanahan claims he was unaware of Bowlen's thinking going into the very moment when he was fired. Am I the only one who finds it bizarre that Pat would be letting the team's PR guy in on his thinking about Shanahan without even telling Mike what he was thinking?

I wonder if the eqipment guy and the groundskeepers knew also?

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Old 06-12-2009, 12:57 AM   #10
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That's a very strange statement. Shanahan claims he was unaware of Bowlen's thinking going into the very moment when he was fired. Am I the only one who finds it bizarre that Pat would be letting the team's PR guy in on his thinking about Shanahan without even telling Mike what he was thinking?

I wonder if the eqipment guy and the groundskeepers knew also?
It's not that unusual, really. I think his implication was more that there was an obvious sense of frustration around Broncos headquarters, and hence... a major move wasn't a shocker.

I didn't hear his direct answer, of course.... but I somewhat doubt his implication was that Bowlen gave him direct, inside info for years. Rather, it was a scenario that after a certain amount of time, made sense.
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It's not that unusual, really. I think his implication was more that there was an obvious sense of frustration around Broncos headquarters, and hence... a major move wasn't a shocker.

I didn't hear his direct answer, of course.... but I somewhat doubt his implication was that Bowlen gave him direct, inside info for years. Rather, it was a scenario that after a certain amount of time, made sense.
That's the only thing that would make any sense. Supposedly Bowlen and Shanny were very tight and the team's braintrust was Mike's exclusive domain, so it would be beyond bizarro if Pat were confiding in the PR guy about his intentions.
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It's not that unusual, really. I think his implication was more that there was an obvious sense of frustration around Broncos headquarters, and hence... a major move wasn't a shocker.

I didn't hear his direct answer, of course.... but I somewhat doubt his implication was that Bowlen gave him direct, inside info for years. Rather, it was a scenario that after a certain amount of time, made sense.
That's the way I interpret what Sacco said as well. You cant be the PR director for 32 years and not have your finger on the pulse of all things Broncos.

Shanny had that big power struggle and falling out with Sundquist and I remember Bowlen saying then how much he admires Sundquist but that the relationship between him and Shanny had become dysfunctional. At the time he just wasn't yet prepared to pull the plug on Shanny.

For all of Shanny's good qualities as a football coach (at least in the early years) he had become a bit of the little Napoleon and a bit too untouchable in his own mind.

Just like Bowlen snuck into Shanny's hotel in disguise after the 49ers won the SB bowl and surprised him in the elevator to ask him to come be head coach of the Broncos, so too his firing and McD's hiring wasn't a knee jerk impulsive reaction at all!

It came after long deliberation and a general feeling for a few years, no doubt, that something had to change.

That being the case, I have no doubt as well Bowlen and Ellis have quietly had their eye on McD for a long while now. I think Bowlen was damn sure who he wanted before ever firing Shanny. He went through the very quick selection process as much for satisfying due diligence as well as the very public equal opportunity regulations of the NFL as for any real search .. and perhaps as a final confirmation that McD was their guy.

Bowlen may be a quiet, more reserved and even shy guy, but I've never mistaken him for a fool. He's known what he was doing all along.

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Old 06-12-2009, 02:04 AM   #13
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Great report Titan! Good stuff....we're all waiting around for a Super Bowl season and McD's already throwing Royal to the wolves so Jabar can hop around the lineup as he pleases. Didn't they talk at all about the QB's? It is a QB Club right ?
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That's the only thing that would make any sense. Supposedly Bowlen and Shanny were very tight and the team's braintrust was Mike's exclusive domain, so it would be beyond bizarro if Pat were confiding in the PR guy about his intentions.
Unless Pat and Sacco are very good friends. We don't know for sure. Maybe Pat was having cocktails (his favorite pastime) with Sacco and he said, "If Mike blows this 3-game lead with 3 to go, he's toast!" Or maybe Sacco overheard Pat give Mike "the bidness" behind closed doors.
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That's a very strange statement. Shanahan claims he was unaware of Bowlen's thinking going into the very moment when he was fired. Am I the only one who finds it bizarre that Pat would be letting the team's PR guy in on his thinking about Shanahan without even telling Mike what he was thinking?

I wonder if the eqipment guy and the groundskeepers knew also?
Wabbit inferred that he knew something big was going to happen that we would all be shocked if we knew from about the mid season point. I have strange feeling the business staff that worked close with Pat might be able to put two and two together.
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Old 06-12-2009, 07:25 AM   #16
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That's a very strange statement. Shanahan claims he was unaware of Bowlen's thinking going into the very moment when he was fired. Am I the only one who finds it bizarre that Pat would be letting the team's PR guy in on his thinking about Shanahan without even telling Mike what he was thinking?

I wonder if the eqipment guy and the groundskeepers knew also?
I didn't take Saccomano's answer like that at all (that Bowlen was feeding him inside info). Rather I took the answer as that being Saccomano's gut feel after being around the organization so long.

Saccomano is also into stats. In the other part of his answer he said there have been only 3 coaches in NFL history that won one playoff game in 9 years and kept his job. Shanahan was one. George Halas was another (Halas had an advantage because Halas was also the owner!) The third one I forget the name (some nfl coach from way back) but his point was there were ample statistical reasons (i.e. failure in the playoffs) to let Shanahan go.

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