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Old 06-10-2009, 09:08 PM   #1
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Got a little idea. We open up a Bronco Bar in Denver Colorado!

Just need a new location.


Anyone?

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Old 06-10-2009, 09:19 PM   #2
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Got a little idea. We open up a Bronco Bar in Denver Colorado!

Just need a new location.


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damn, wish i were in denver, i can't stand running a bar painted like arrowhead!!!
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What is the minimum to buy in and do you have a business plan ?
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can we advertise on the broncos practice jerseys?
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:39 PM   #6
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What is the minimum to buy in and do you have a business plan ?
Actually I do have one. I'd be curious to see who else has one or thought about building one? Got a big ole bus to add into the mix though 610.

How's Sam?
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Actually I do have one. I'd be curious to see who else has one or thought about building one? Got a big ole bus to add into the mix though 610.

How's Sam?
Kind of wondering myself. Havn't heard from Falconer in a while. As far as the bar goes have certainly owned enough of my own businesses to maybe have some input and could possibly raise some $ if the deal is sweet enough.
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Kind of wondering myself. Havn't heard from Falconer in a while. As far as the bar goes have certainly owned enough of my own businesses to maybe have some input and could possibly raise some $ if the deal is sweet enough.
falconer commented about sam doin well just a month or so ago, back on topic, if ya need any advice or just someone to bounce an idea off of, shoot me a ring/message meck, opened multiple business including a bar just last december and been working as a bartender for the past half decade and i'd be more than willing to help in any way possible there
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falconer commented about sam doin well just a month or so ago, back on topic, if ya need any advice or just someone to bounce an idea off of, shoot me a ring/message meck, opened multiple business including a bar just last december and been working as a bartender for the past half decade and i'd be more than willing to help in any way possible there
I thought you were in college like me becoming a doctor or something.
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if it opens let us know, id like to apply for a security job
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if it opens let us know, id like to apply for a security job
only when our famous truck driver is on the road. When the first guy gets his throat punched, no one will screw around once they are in the bar.
Meck, I thought you were keeping your property. Is the size of your lot now too small for a bar or just a bad location for it?
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Cali it was a combination of things at the end.

Location was perfect. However things changed but the plan remains the same. A real old school/straight up Bronco Bar. It just doesn't exist IMO.

I'd like to hear from anyone willing to contribute as an investor, employee, Bronco fan, or another ahole We don't discriminate as long as you are a Broncos Fan.

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Well we have something in common then. However my divisions aren't religious but do follow state Boundaries. I only invest with people who are at least 50% Bronco fan. Check that. 100%.

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I love it Meck, A Bronco bar for the new era. Here are some things I think would be great for the new pub.

1-Every night the bar votes on who the best looking, greatest person is in the bar. It could be looks, money, anything that set's this person above all the rest...........Then of course we trade that person to the bar across the street for whoever there biggest loser is.

2-The bar really is all about the team. At end of night the bar tab is divided evenly among all patrons. Yeah even if you only have one beer you p***Y!!!

3- Everyone gets referred to by what the do. IE. the waitress, the bartender, the drinker, the whore, then we give numbers so we know who is who. For example bartender number 5 is really hot, but no way she ever screws drinker numer 17, that dude is a loser. IMO she already did it with waitress number 2 and has now gone lesbian.

4- On Sundays when Broncos play everyone wheres a hoodie.
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Cali it was a combination of things at the end.

Location was perfect. However things changed but the plan remains the same. A real old school/straight up Bronco Bar. It just doesn't exist IMO.

I'd like to hear from anyone willing to contribute as an investor, employee, Bronco fan, or another ahole We don't discriminate as long as you are a Broncos Fan.
Hmmm a bar owned by fans, like the packers of sports bars.

Sort of socialism meets capitalism meets stupid sports fans.
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Hmmm a bar owned by fans, like the packers of sports bars.

Sort of socialism meets capitalism meets stupid sports fans.
Sounds perfect, you over pay for a beer just like anywhere else but you get some of the profit back!
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:21 PM   #19
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Cali it was a combination of things at the end.

Location was perfect. However things changed but the plan remains the same. A real old school/straight up Bronco Bar. It just doesn't exist IMO.

I'd like to hear from anyone willing to contribute as an investor, employee, Bronco fan, or another ahole We don't discriminate as long as you are a Broncos Fan.
I got 700 cases of beans I could throw in.
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:31 PM   #20
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I got 700 cases of beans I could throw in.


You know Baja I have little doubt you'd deliver that in one way or another.

The "economy sucks, Bowlen sucks, the new QB sucks, our coach sucks, raiders suck....But a Broncos bar in Denver Co still makes sense IMO.

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Old 06-10-2009, 11:41 PM   #21
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It's actually not a bad time to be out putting business plans together. Great time to pound out favorable lease deals for real estate and possibly even equipment. The sharks are definitely out hunting right now.

I'd imagine you could put together a complete start-up for somewhere around a 15-30% discount over just a couple years ago, depending on what business you're in.

I have one friend with some retail shops. He had to close a couple due to business decline, but his others are doing well, and he's been able to parlay a lack of commercial lease customers into better lease rates for his existing businesses.
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It's actually not a bad time to be out putting business plans together. Great time to pound out favorable lease deals for real estate and possibly even equipment. The sharks are definitely out hunting right now.

I'd imagine you could put together a complete start-up for somewhere around a 15-30% discount over just a couple years ago, depending on what business you're in.

I have one friend with some retail shops. He had to close a couple due to business decline, but his others are doing well, and he's been able to parlay a lack of commercial lease customers into better lease rates for his existing businesses.
I'm looking for a commercial building in an area I could put a rehearsal lockout thing together.

Make like 4-5 sound resistant rooms and rent them out to bands for like 400 a month. Then I would make one room for my band also and get rid of rehearsing in my living room.

Usually owners don't want to give a long term lease to something like that because they fear bands = drugs and partying. Well they do equal that but these guys are desperate for leases. I had a guy who said no way call me back and try to do it for 400 more a month then I offered.

I lied and said I like your building but I have some other building that are interested and are better deals. I drove by still for lease, so I'm thinking either he leases it soon, or in 2-3 more months he will be desperate.

Free standing building, fenced, I could build like 10 studios in it.

Really though I have no good plan and need to work it out a lot more. But I could also probably get the rooms built for cheaper right now. Construction not exactly booming.
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I'm looking for a commercial building in an area I could put a rehearsal lockout thing together.

Make like 4-5 sound resistant rooms and rent them out to bands for like 400 a month. Then I would make one room for my band also and get rid of rehearsing in my living room.

Usually owners don't want to give a long term lease to something like that because they fear bands = drugs and partying. Well they do equal that but these guys are desperate for leases. I had a guy who said no way call me back and try to do it for 400 more a month then I offered.

I lied and said I like your building but I have some other building that are interested and are better deals. I drove by still for lease, so I'm thinking either he leases it soon, or in 2-3 more months he will be desperate.

Free standing building, fenced, I could build like 10 studios in it.

Really though I have no good plan and need to work it out a lot more. But I could also probably get the rooms built for cheaper right now. Construction not exactly booming.
Very interesting.

I've always run my studio facilities out of my home, or worked at pro studios/networks. But, I did do some engineering for a studio up in Oakland and became very good friends with the owner. He built out a great main studio with medium sized live room and a great control room. (About 100K worth of gear including a Trident TSM he got a great deal on.) But, he was VERY smart. When he leased the building, he built 6 practice rooms, just like you're talking about.

They're secure, nice and kept up. So, he basically has a waiting list of people who need a lock-out. Those rooms ALONE pay his rent. That means everything from his studio is profit. So, if business is slow (which it rarely was when I was there)... he never had to worry about bills.

I like your idea. Have you done any footwork as to other facilities around where you're looking? Thinking of adding anything to appeal to the musicians? I always feel like the difference between business success and failure are very minor details. VERY minor.

Long story short, I think I've told this story here before, but I use a dry-cleaners here in my area that's actually somewhat "famous" due to their rep as doing work for a lot of actors. But, I came to find out, their prices are very reasonable. I also found out that they PICK UP AND DELIVER and no extra cost besides a tip. They do an immaculate job. A highly friendly driver shows up in a clean car, speaks English and asks questions when my wife gives him our dry-clean stuff. They give you a custom bag to use. (And bring it back.) Turn-around is quick, quality is great. This last time, I noticed an extra bag with the clothing. They had put together a little gift bag with some chocolates, a calendar, some stickers for kids and other goodies.

Now, none of the things they did cost them a lot of extra money to do. It's just time, effort and creativity. But, we'll never use anyone else.

I honestly believe the differences are that small. Two dry-cleaners can do a nice job on my clothes. But, these people WANT my business... badly and were smart and creative about keeping it.

Just a little story I try to remember when running my own business.

Anyway, good luck with the rooms. Practice areas are a must out here. Basements don't exist, and garages are all on top of each other. So, there always seems to be musicians looking.
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Very interesting.

I've always run my studio facilities out of my home, or worked at pro studios/networks. But, I did do some engineering for a studio up in Oakland and became very good friends with the owner. He built out a great main studio with medium sized live room and a great control room. (About 100K worth of gear including a Trident TSM he got a great deal on.) But, he was VERY smart. When he leased the building, he built 6 practice rooms, just like you're talking about.

They're secure, nice and kept up. So, he basically has a waiting list of people who need a lock-out. Those rooms ALONE pay his rent. That means everything from his studio is profit. So, if business is slow (which it rarely was when I was there)... he never had to worry about bills.

I like your idea. Have you done any footwork as to other facilities around where you're looking? Thinking of adding anything to appeal to the musicians? I always feel like the difference between business success and failure are very minor details. VERY minor.

Long story short, I think I've told this story here before, but I use a dry-cleaners here in my area that's actually somewhat "famous" due to their rep as doing work for a lot of actors. But, I came to find out, their prices are very reasonable. I also found out that they PICK UP AND DELIVER and no extra cost besides a tip. They do an immaculate job. A highly friendly driver shows up in a clean car, speaks English and asks questions when my wife gives him our dry-clean stuff. They give you a custom bag to use. (And bring it back.) Turn-around is quick, quality is great. This last time, I noticed an extra bag with the clothing. They had put together a little gift bag with some chocolates, a calendar, some stickers for kids and other goodies.

Now, none of the things they did cost them a lot of extra money to do. It's just time, effort and creativity. But, we'll never use anyone else.

I honestly believe the differences are that small. Two dry-cleaners can do a nice job on my clothes. But, these people WANT my business... badly and were smart and creative about keeping it.

Just a little story I try to remember when running my own business.

Anyway, good luck with the rooms. Practice areas are a must out here. Basements don't exist, and garages are all on top of each other. So, there always seems to be musicians looking.

Sounds like we have both lugged around rehearsing in homes, garages, studios, lockouts etc.

I think the main thing I want to provide would be a safe, secure, professional musician working environment. That mean a place people can park that they don't have to walk down any dark alleys in some hood area of the Long Beach.

I think free Wi-Fi or whatever it takes to give internet in each room.

Security cameras in the hallways and secure doors into the rooms

Maybe a security gate you need a code to open.

Maybe a vending machine that has just some basic supplies like picks, batteries, strings, reeds, drum heads, sticks etc. Nothing expensive just cheap stuff with a fair price for emergencies.

Rooms that are 400-500 but then you get a nice sized room. IMO for that at least 15 by 10.

A good working air conditioning system that keeps rooms comfortable.

Maybe some gear people can rent like Amps, Drum Kits, PA's

A decent sized bathroom that doesn't smell like urine would be nice.


I don't what else do you think could fit into a budget that musicians would really dig?
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damn, that is one of my goals for the next 5-10 years, to open up my own sports bar. wish i had some extra cash to kick around, i would totally get involved in this venture of yours Meck
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