Casey Wiegmann wants extension before training camp - Page 3 - The Orange Mane

Man-Goblin · 06-10-2009, 12:44 PM

I just found out that Casey Wiegmann is dating this.

How did I not know this

summerdenver · 06-10-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

There's gotta be a RB with an extensive injury history to his knee that we can trade him for. If not, look for another blocking TE and get the deal done!

Are you sure we don't need another DB? Especially if someone who is 30+ and has played in AFCE is available.

scttgrd · 06-10-2009, 12:51 PM

Or another good long snapper.

broncosteven · 06-10-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

I want a 14 inch wang, a lobotomy, and 10 million dollars...

I thought you had one of those 3?

TonyR · 06-10-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

There's gotta be a RB with an extensive injury history to his knee that we can trade him for.

I know you're being at least partly facetious here but feel the need to point out to those who don't follow the Eagles as closely as you do that Buckhalter has missed 4 total games the last 3 seasons. Which I suppose could either mean he's relatively healthly or overdue for another knee injury...

kappys · 06-10-2009, 01:17 PM

Probably jus playing it slow and seeing what Kory brings ot the table. If he looks like a starter then we already have a backup behind him and time to let Casey go. Maybe trade him to a team that needs a center and is in competiton for a SB if he's interested.

We aren't likely to compete for a championship this year so if Kory looks ready best to get him some playing time under his belt so that in 2-3 years when we are poisd to make a realy run he will have good experience under his belt.

TheReverend · 06-10-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

I know you're being at least partly facetious here but feel the need to point out to those who don't follow the Eagles as closely as you do that Buckhalter has missed 4 total games the last 3 seasons. Which I suppose could either mean he's relatively healthly or overdue for another knee injury...

And three entire seasons out of the 5 before that...

And Philly has been actively trying to replace him for years...

And he's their "between the tackles" runner and Philly's biggest issue was converting 3rd/4th and a foot...

And ACL and Patellar tendon issues are permanent setbacks...

And despite Westbrook being nicked up each of the past three seasons, Buckhalter has been used "sparingly" (sparingly=nice term)...

And he fumbles twice as much as he scores...

azbroncfan · 06-10-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Man-Goblin

I just found out that Casey Wiegmann is dating this.

How did I not know this

I thought he was married to her. I remember she was on a reality like survivor or amazing race. Can't remember exactly but he caught a trophy there.

TheReverend · 06-10-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by azbroncfan

I thought he was married to her. I remember she was on a reality like survivor or amazing race. Can't remember exactly but he caught a trophy there.

Me too. We discussed her at length last year.

Article on how well Casey did and that he was contemplating retiring before last season and she made him realize he didn't want to go out the way he would've in KC.

DBroncos4life · 06-10-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

And three entire seasons out of the 5 before that...

And Philly has been actively trying to replace him for years...

And he's their "between the tackles" runner and Philly's biggest issue was converting 3rd/4th and a foot...

And ACL and Patellar tendon issues are permanent setbacks...

And despite Westbrook being nicked up each of the past three seasons, Buckhalter has been used "sparingly" (sparingly=nice term)...

And he fumbles twice as much as he scores...

He has 22 total TDs and 5 fumbles lost. Almost twice as much but not quite. The Eagles wanted to get rid of him so much that in 2007 they resigned him to a 2 year deal. If you go read any Eagles board when we signed Buck the fans were sad to see him leave. He was a great back up to Westbrook and they all knew that. As far as his limited touches go, Westbrook is a very good RB. You won't find many players in the NFL that get the ball as much as him running and catching out of the backfield. Buck might not be a starter but he is very good in the role that he plays and I would hope that they keep it the same for him year in Denver.

I might add in the game against Pitt when Westbrook went down, Buck played very well and samething against San Fran and the Bears. Both games he scored when WestBrook was out of the game.

TheElusiveKyleOrton · 06-10-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

He has 22 total TDs and 5 fumbles lost. Almost twice as much but not quite. The Eagles wanted to get rid of him so much that in 2007 they resigned him to a 2 year deal. If you go read any Eagles board when we signed Buck the fans were sad to see him leave. He was a great back up to Westbrook and they all knew that. As far as his limited touches go, Westbrook is a very good RB. You won't find many players in the NFL that get the ball as much as him running and catching out of the backfield. Buck might not be a starter but he is very good in the role that he plays and I would hope that they keep it the same for him year in Denver.

I might add in the game against Pitt when Westbrook went down, Buck played very well and samething against San Fran and the Bears. Both games he scored when WestBrook was out of the game.

QFT

TheReverend · 06-10-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

He has 22 total TDs and 5 fumbles lost. Almost twice as much but not quite. The Eagles wanted to get rid of him so much that in 2007 they resigned him to a 2 year deal. If you go read any Eagles board when we signed Buck the fans were sad to see him leave. He was a great back up to Westbrook and they all knew that. As far as his limited touches go, Westbrook is a very good RB. You won't find many players in the NFL that get the ball as much as him running and catching out of the backfield. Buck might not be a starter but he is very good in the role that he plays and I would hope that they keep it the same for him year in Denver.

I might add in the game against Pitt when Westbrook went down, Buck played very well and samething against San Fran and the Bears. Both games he scored when WestBrook was out of the game.

You're completely correct about the TDs. That's my mistake. 8 fumbles as a part-timer who's played sparingly in 5 seasons is no small number, though.

As for the rest of the post, I implore you to pass whatever drugs you've got. You just mentioned Philly resigned him to a whopping near vet minimum 2 year deal in 2007 (btw, largely due to the complete whiffs named Ryan Moats and Tony Hunt), yet didn't make an offer after the outstanding performances you witnessed this past season?

Fact is: He became expendable because Philly liked Lorenzo Booker better... now that's just sad.

DBroncos4life · 06-10-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

You're completely correct about the TDs. That's my mistake. 8 fumbles as a part-timer who's played sparingly in 5 seasons is no small number, though.

As for the rest of the post, I implore you to pass whatever drugs you've got. You just mentioned Philly resigned him to a whopping near vet minimum 2 year deal in 2007 (btw, largely due to the complete whiffs named Ryan Moats and Tony Hunt), yet didn't make an offer after the outstanding performances you witnessed this past season?

Fact is: He became expendable because Philly liked Lorenzo Booker better... now that's just sad.

He only lost 5 fumbles in 476 career attempts man. Thats one lost fumble for every 95 attempts. At the same time he is scoring a TD on every 26 touches so by that he would have scored 3 tds (damn near 4) for every one fumble. As far as them liking Booker better you do know that we signed Buck on his first night in Denver giving Philly NO CHANCE to even offer him anything. You know because he agreed to terms on the 27th the same day FA period started. Not only did they love Booker so much they drafted a RB high in the draft. They drafted LeSean McCoy in the second round, you know the normal round you look for a third string RB. Gone on with your Drug talk and all that blah blah blah crap you spit out some people by into it.

Beantown Bronco · 06-10-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

He only lost 5 fumbles in 476 career attempts man. Thats one lost fumble for every 95 attempts.

You are focusing in on fumbles lost and not fumbles overall. Just because a teammate jumped on his fumble, it doesn't mean he didn't do it.

How's this for a comparison:

8 fumbles in 476 touches
That's 1 for every 60 touches

"Fumble machine" Tatum Bell only fumbled once every 64 touches over his entire career.

TheReverend · 06-10-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

He only lost 5 fumbles in 476 career attempts man. Thats one lost fumble for every 95 attempts. At the same time he is scoring a TD on every 26 touches so by that he would have scored 3 tds (damn near 4) for every one fumble. As far as them liking Booker better you do know that we signed Buck on his first night in Denver giving Philly NO CHANCE to even offer him anything. Not only did they love Booker so much they drafted a RB high in the draft. They drafted LeSean McCoy in the second round, you know the normal round you look for a third string RB. Gone on with your Drug talk and all that blah blah blah crap you spit out some people by into it.

First off, fumbles lost is luck. What you care about is actual fumbles. Not how many times someone recovered it quicker than the defense could.

Secondly, you realize they had all season to re-sign him right? They don't have to wait until FA to make an offer? Or is that too complicated for you?

Thirdly, they LET HIM WALK. And they did so before drafted McCoy.

And yes, they drafted McCoy high. Why? Because their RB stable is weak, and gets weaker every year Westbrook gets older.

AND THEY STILL DIDN'T WANT BUCK.

Is that too hard for you to understand?

DBroncos4life · 06-10-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

You are focusing in on fumbles lost and not fumbles overall. Just because a player jumped on his fumble, it doesn't mean he didn't do it.

How's this for a comparison:

8 fumbles in 476 touches
That's 1 for every 60 touches

"Fumble machine" Tatum Bell only fumbled once every 64 touches.

He has 7 career fumbles not 8. 6 rushing and 1 catching. So rushing he fumbles every 79 attempts thats still 3 Tds to every 1 fumble rushing. If you want to do touches he fumbles once every 80 times he rushes or catches the ball.

DBroncos4life · 06-10-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

First off, fumbles lost is luck. What you care about is actual fumbles. Not how many times someone recovered it quicker than the defense could.

Secondly, you realize they had all season to re-sign him right? They don't have to wait until FA to make an offer? Or is that too complicated for you?

Thirdly, they LET HIM WALK. And they did so before drafted McCoy.

And yes, they drafted McCoy high. Why? Because their RB stable is weak, and gets weaker every year Westbrook gets older.

AND THEY STILL DIDN'T WANT BUCK.

Is that too hard for you to understand?

Other then tagging him how would they have stopped him from hearing other offers from teams? He wanted to have a chance at starting something no one really has when Westbrook is healthy.

Eagles | Need depth at running back - from www.KFFL.com
Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:29:59 -0800

Geoff Mosher, of The Courier-Post, reports the Philadelphia Eagles need depth at running back in 2009. RB Brian Westbrook (knee) has never made it a full 16-game season during his six-year career and every year his left knee becomes problematic. RB Correll Buckhalter, an unrestricted free agent, wants to be a starter somewhere.

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Eagles | Buckhalter wants to be a starter - from www.KFFL.com
Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:20:49 -0800

The Associated Press reports Philadelphia Eagles RB Correll Buckhalter, who will become an unrestricted free agent this offseason, would like to have the opportunity to start for another team. "If the opportunity presented itself, I'm going to take it," Buckhalter said.

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Eagles | Buckhalter could be a free agent this offseason - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:26:04 -0800

Frank Seravalli, of the Philadelphia Daily News reports Philadelphia Eagles RB Correll Buckhalter could become a free agent this offseason. Buckhalter said he would like a promised bigger role in an offense in 2009, whether it be with Philadelphia or another team. "Ever since I came here [in 2001], I've wanted to be a starter in this league. If the opportunity presents itself somewhere where I can start, naturally I'm going to take that. That was my goal. To play 3 years now injury free, I think it is a lot better situation coming into free agency than where I was last time. When free-agent time comes, I will try to put everything in perspective," Buckhalter said.

If you really think the Eagles didn't want to keep Buck you are crazy but there wasn't much they could do about it Westbrook on the roster.

TheReverend · 06-10-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

He has 7 career fumbles not 8. 6 rushing and 1 catching. So rushing he fumbles every 79 attempts thats still 3 Tds to every 1 fumble rushing. If you want to do touches he fumbles once every 80 times he rushes or catches the ball.

Not sure where you're getting 7 from...

http://www.nfl.com/players/correllbu...e?id=BUC578164

TheReverend · 06-10-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Other then tagging him how would they have stopped him from hearing other offers from teams? He wanted to have a chance at starting something no one really has when Westbrook is healthy.

If you really think the Eagles didn't want to keep Buck you are crazy but there wasn't much they could do about it Westbrook on the roster.

Because you show you want to keep someone by making them an offer...

That's how that works in pro-sports, believe it or not.

Secondly, notice how he opens himself to that possibility with your own links:

"Buckhalter said he would like a promised bigger role in an offense in 2009, whether it be with Philadelphia or another team"

Yet... no offer.

DBroncos4life · 06-10-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Because you show you want to keep someone by making them an offer...

That's how that works in pro-sports, believe it or not.

Secondly, notice how he opens himself to that possibility with your own links:

"Buckhalter said he would like a promised bigger role in an offense in 2009, whether it be with Philadelphia or another team"

Yet... no offer.

How in the world do you know they didn't offer him a contract? Its weird that he signed with a team with no true starter instead of signing a contract with the Eagles when they still have Westbrook as the starter. He made it pretty clear that he wanted a chance to play more then sign where he thought he could do just that. It was up to him where he signed a contract at.

DBroncos4life · 06-10-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Not sure where you're getting 7 from...

http://www.nfl.com/players/correllbu...e?id=BUC578164

http://www.nfl.com/players/correllbu...s?id=BUC578164

outdoor_miner · 06-10-2009, 05:03 PM

Hey guys! Look! Maybe the sky isn't falling after all!

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0...n-t-fight.html

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The agent for Denver center Casey Wiegmann said the contract discussions between the Pro Bowler and the team will not become acrimonious.

"No, that will not happen," agent Joe Linta said Wednesday. "We've had a very good experience with the Broncos and that will continue."

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Linta said that Wiegmann and the Broncos are on the same page and are communicating.

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"This has all been above board," Linta said. "Casey is doing it the right way. He is not staying away. He is showing up and doing it the right way. I'm certain the Broncos will, in turn, do the right thing. Both Josh McDaniels (Denver's coach) and Brian Xanders (Denver's general manager) are professionals. We feel good about dealing with them."

TheReverend · 06-10-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

How in the world do you know they didn't offer him a contract? Its weird that he signed with a team with no true starter instead of signing a contract with the Eagles when they still have Westbrook as the starter. He made it pretty clear that he wanted a chance to play more then sign where he thought he could do just that. It was up to him where he signed a contract at.

Because contract talks make the news... and I'm local... and that's why he didn't resign with the Eagles... because they didn't offer him the chance.

As for "no starter" here. We had several backs coming back from injury and signed another with Buck at the start of FA. Still wasn't enough and we used our top draft pick (but that was after he signed so that point is moot).

TheReverend · 06-10-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

http://www.nfl.com/players/correllbu...s?id=BUC578164

Okay. One on a kick return. I suppose it's fair to exclude that one.

tsiguy96 · 06-10-2009, 07:55 PM

stupidest argument ever. get over it, hes here and hes not getting cut.

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06-10-2009, 12:44 PM	#51
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,588 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	I just found out that Casey Wiegmann is dating this. How did I not know this

06-10-2009, 12:51 PM	#53
scttgrd Just treading water Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Aurora Posts: 1,288 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brandon Mashall	Or another good long snapper.

06-10-2009, 01:17 PM	#56
kappys Ring of Famer “It will be of little avail to the Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,900	Probably jus playing it slow and seeing what Kory brings ot the table. If he looks like a starter then we already have a backup behind him and time to let Casey go. Maybe trade him to a team that needs a center and is in competiton for a SB if he's interested. We aren't likely to compete for a championship this year so if Kory looks ready best to get him some playing time under his belt so that in 2-3 years when we are poisd to make a realy run he will have good experience under his belt.

06-10-2009, 07:55 PM	#75
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	stupidest argument ever. get over it, hes here and hes not getting cut.