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Old 06-07-2009, 12:06 PM   #1
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Default If you have never watched turn on right now and check out Formula one.

These guys are so much faster then Indy they make them look silly for even calling that racing.

Put on Fox and check it out. This stuff is worth getting into, money, women, fast cars, what more could you ask for. I've never seen athletes with hotter wives and G/F's then Formula One.
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Old 06-07-2009, 12:35 PM   #2
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These guys are so much faster then Indy they make them look silly for even calling that racing.

Put on Fox and check it out. This stuff is worth getting into, money, women, fast cars, what more could you ask for. I've never seen athletes with hotter wives and G/F's then Formula One.
Please explain to me the athleticism involved.
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Please explain to me the athleticism involved.
give it a rest, seriously. you know what hes talking about.
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Old 06-07-2009, 12:37 PM   #4
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give it a rest, seriously. you know what hes talking about.
Serious question, douche.

Many people refer to professional drivers as athletes and I don't understand it. Now please crawl back into the whole you popped out of.
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F1 has been my favorite for 25 years. Nothing like attending one in person.... WILD. Though Ferrari is down this season, I still love it.
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Are they still driving in circles?
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sadly it doesn't seem to be in HD......seems like a given in todays sports landscape
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These guys are so much faster then Indy they make them look silly for even calling that racing.

Put on Fox and check it out. This stuff is worth getting into, money, women, fast cars, what more could you ask for. I've never seen athletes with hotter wives and G/F's then Formula One.
Absolutely!

But to be fair, NASCAR has Chevy's and 'chewing baccy' for sponsors, some of the girls even have toofs.
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Serious question, douche.

Many people refer to professional drivers as athletes and I don't understand it. Now please crawl back into the whole you popped out of.
With the g-forces the drivers are subjected to when cornering, breaking and accelerating they need to be in very good shape.
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Formula 1 never drove in circles, this is actual racing.
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With the g-forces the drivers are subjected to when cornering, breaking and accelerating they need to be in very good shape.
I see... kind of like astronaut training? So is it more healthy and in good shape, or requiring a high level of athletic ability?

I dunno, back in high school this one kid's dad owned a Ferrari lot and got big into racing and always used to claim it was a sport and was very taxing, etc, but he was a joke at everyyyyyyyyyy sport. Jaded me to the whole concept I suppose.
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I see... kind of like astronaut training? So is it more healthy and in good shape, or requiring a high level of athletic ability?

I dunno, back in high school this one kid's dad owned a Ferrari lot and got big into racing and always used to claim it was a sport and was very taxing, etc, but he was a joke at everyyyyyyyyyy sport. Jaded me to the whole concept I suppose.
nope. you are right. Being taxed does not make an athlete. Otherwise I am an athlete because I run out of breath walking up the stairs(smoker)...

I think the term athlete gets overused, fro example golfers and competitive eaters get called athletes.

Anyone, i mean anyone can golf, over eat or drive a car fast. Not everyone can ride the tour de france or rush for a 1,000 yards.

They are not athletes. period.
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Ask Jesse James what he thinks about people that are pulling constant G's. I'd guess that Indy Drivers subject themselves to 2-4 Gs routinely and occasionally have a turn or something that gets into the 5-7 range.

I certainly see your point. Not sure I consider bowlers athletes myself... but that's just me. I think you're probably on track though. Better shape than being a good athlete. Still, some people cannot condition themselves for those Gs. So it does take some physical ability.
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Ask Jesse James what he thinks about people that are pulling constant G's. I'd guess that Indy Drivers subject themselves to 2-4 Gs routinely and occasionally have a turn or something that gets into the 5-7 range.

I certainly see your point. Not sure I consider bowlers athletes myself... but that's just me. I think you're probably on track though. Better shape than being a good athlete. Still, some people cannot condition themselves for those Gs. So it does take some physical ability.
There are "sports" that I consider more skills than actual athletic sports, I suppose I'm inclined to file this in the same category?

In these I think it's more practice and training, and that when someone with a good level of athleticism combines with dedicated training, they take the game to a new level. Tiger Woods for golf, as an example. And yes, I include baseball.
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sadly it doesn't seem to be in HD......seems like a given in todays sports landscape
Hahaha, i was just telling that to my friend, showing her all the different sports in HD, and flipped on the Formula One race to show her what nonHD looks like...
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Many people refer to professional drivers as athletes and I don't understand it.
Having wrestled cars around tracks for fun at Porsche Club Drivers Ed events, I would not hesitate to call racing drivers athletes.

It is intense both physically and mentally and it requires many of the same skills as other sporting/athletic endeavors like golf, skiing, fencing, tennis, baseball: eye-hand coordination, visual acuity, depth perception, well developed situational & spatial awareness, rhythm & timing, split-second decision making, good reflexes, balance.

Physical conditioning helps one deal with the heat and g-forces as well as the mental concentration required for lap after lap consistency. Doing 10 laps in 15 minutes would leave me drenched in sweat and my arms/shoulders completely pumped up (no power-steering in my 911). Left leg would be worn out from shifting a heavy racing clutch and bracing against g-loads in turns. And this was just driving the course at a speed I was comfortable with, not all-out racing.

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Having wrestled cars around tracks for fun at Porsche Club Drivers Ed events, I would not hesitate to call racing drivers athletes.

It is intense both physically and mentally and it requires many of the same skills as other sporting/athletic endeavors like golf, skiing, fencing, tennis, baseball: eye-hand coordination, visual acuity, depth perception, well developed situational & spatial awareness, rhythm & timing, split-second decision making, good reflexes, balance.

Physical conditioning helps one deal with the heat and g-forces as well as the mental concentration required for lap after lap consistency. Doing 10 laps in 15 minutes would leave me drenched in sweat and my arms/shoulders completely pumped up (no power-steering in my 911). Left leg would be worn out from shifting a heavy racing clutch and bracing against g-loads in turns. And this was just driving the course at a speed I was comfortable with, not all-out racing.

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Repped. Precisely the explanation I was looking for
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racing motor cycles i have the utmost respect for anybody that can race anything, i think im in decent shape and after 15 minutes of a race im dead, i cant imagine doing it for the 2 hours those guys do

i just dont like formula 1 because its the team with the most money that wins, not so much about the driver
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I've made the argument here a number of times that there are athletic sports (football, basketball, baseball, hockey, track and field, swimming, tennis, etc.), and non athletic sports (golf, bowling, pool, auto racing, etc.)

Sports require a certain balance of athletic ability and skill. Some sports require more athletic than skill (football), and some more skill than athletic ability (baseball... depending on the position). But for sports that require mostly skill and not much athletic ability, like golf, bowling, and auto racing, I wouldn't call them athletes. They are highly skilled at what they do, but what they are doing does not require much athletic ability. Walking a course does not require athletic ability. It may be tiring, but that doesn't make them athletes. Having to withstand multiple G forces is taxing on the body, but that doesn't make them athletes. It's the high level of skill that makes them great.
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I have been to the US grand prix in Indy, F1 racing is awesome. So many hot brazilian and european girls. They really get into it. THe cars are so much louder then Indy. I heard they go 0-100 and back down to 0 in under 5 seconds. I heard Indy cars are around 1 million dollars each while each F1 car is like 10 million. More technology and faster
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Anyone, i mean anyone can golf, .
Really?
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nope. you are right. Being taxed does not make an athlete. Otherwise I am an athlete because I run out of breath walking up the stairs(smoker)...

I think the term athlete gets overused, fro example golfers and competitive eaters get called athletes.

Anyone, i mean anyone can golf, over eat or drive a car fast. Not everyone can ride the tour de france or rush for a 1,000 yards.

They are not athletes. period.
everyone can ride the tour de france over a certain period of time. everyone can throw a football. everyone can throw a baseball or catch one. thats a horrible argument to make that the general public being able to do something means its not what athletes do.

its the level of what you do and if it takes physical preparedness to be able to do so. everyone can drive a car. not everyone can drive a car in 130 degree cabin temps for 2-3 hours while keeping mental clarity to not crash going 180mph within inches of other cars.
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With the advent and growth of competitive computer/console gaming, I do think another category of athlete will be commonly accepted in the relatively near future. There will have to be a delineation between physical athletes such as football players, wrestlers, bikers, etc. and hand/eye coordination competitors such as professional gamers, poker players, and billiard players. It will be interesting to see where some of the bleed overs such as race car drivers and bowlers are most commonly placed.
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With the advent and growth of competitive computer/console gaming, I do think another category of athlete will be commonly accepted in the relatively near future. There will have to be a delineation between physical athletes such as football players, wrestlers, bikers, etc. and hand/eye coordination competitors such as professional gamers, poker players, and billiard players. It will be interesting to see where some of the bleed overs such as race car drivers and bowlers are most commonly placed.
well you gotta make the difference between games and sports. billiards, poker, video gmaes, they are all games. golf, racing, football are all sports.
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