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Old 06-01-2009, 11:40 PM   #1
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heres the list, put if you think they will make the hall of fame, and a brief explanation if you feel necessary. this is not necessarily what they have done to date, but what they may/will have accomplished by the time their career is over.

john lynch
troy palamalu
adrian peterson
larry fitzgerald
ben rothlisberger
domenik hixon (if you know whats good for you, youll vote yes)
champ bailey
ty law
edgerrin james
kurt warner
torry holt
albert haynesworth
ladanian tomlinson
antonio gates
andre johnson
calvin johnson
ed reed
kerry collins
brian urlacher
warren sapp
nmdandi asomugha
brian dawkins
ryan clady
randy moss
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john lynch - Maybe
troy palamalu - Yes
adrian peterson - Way too early, on the path though
larry fitzgerald - Same as All Day
ben rothlisberger - Probably bc he is a Steeler
domenik hixon - No
champ bailey - Lock
ty law - Maybe eventually
edgerrin james - No
kurt warner - Hmm, possibly
torry holt - Yep, he will finish in the top 5 WRs in yardage
albert haynesworth - One (albeit ****ing awesome) season down, 10 more to go
ladanian tomlinson - Depends on how he finishes, probably though
antonio gates - Doubtful
andre johnson - He keeps it up for about 13 year career and he will
calvin johnson - If he stays with the Lions his whole career, no, might have a shot if he leaves though
ed reed - No
kerry collins - No
brian urlacher - Bear...yes
warren sapp - Probably, loud mouth and media favorite
nmdandi asomugha - Very young but has a promising career ahead of him, maybe
brian dawkins - Doubtful
ryan clady - Come on, he's a rookie. If he continues like he did this year for the rest of his career he is a lock though.
randy moss - Sadly, he probably will.
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john lynch - No
troy palamalu - Maybe
adrian peterson - Maybe
larry fitzgerald - No
ben rothlisberger - Yes (definite if the Steelers get one more with him at QB)
domenik hixon (if you know whats good for you, youll vote yes) -No
champ bailey - Maybe
ty law - No
edgerrin james - No
kurt warner - Maybe
torry holt - No
albert haynesworth - No
ladanian tomlinson - Maybe
antonio gates - No
andre johnson - No
calvin johnson - No
ed reed - No
kerry collins - No
brian urlacher - No
warren sapp - No
nmdandi asomugha - Not at this point, No
brian dawkins - No
ryan clady - No
randy moss - Yes
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Lynch NO Not a playmaker. Lott is the only safety in the HOF who played in the last 30 years. It's tough to get into the Hall as a safety.

Polomalu YES More of a game changer than Lynch.

Adrian Peterson YES Barring a castrophic injury ala Billy Sims, he's going to have a career similar to Earl Campbell, Eric Dickerson.

Larry Fitzgerald YES Should be the best WR in football during the next 2-3 years. Calvin Johnson is the only guy I see challenging him for his throne.

Ben Roethlisberger YES He doesn't get enough credit for his improvisional skills. He's even had some big time statistical seasons (2007).

Champ Bailey YES Mainly because of his all-around play, but he won't get in on the first ballot.

Ty Law NO I would vote for him, but I think he's going to have a tough time getting in until 20-30 years down the road. This generation's Lester Hayes. His departure from the Patriots will hurt him, but it shouldn't. In 2005 with the Jets, he was still playing at an All-Pro level. He should have been the MVP of Super Bowl XXXVI.

Edgerrin James YES It's going to take him awhile, but when you look at his career he has a strong case. His peak is pretty strong. Two time NFL rushing champion. 4 1500+ plus rushing seasons.

Kurt Warner YES Won't get in on the first ballot, but here's a stat that will blow you away, he has the highest percentage of 300 yard games in NFL history by a wide margin. It's not even close.

Torry Holt YES The NFC's Marvin Harrison for many years.

Albert Haynesworth NO He definitely has the window to get there, but when you look at his career, he has two great seasons. He needs more and the odds are against him when you look at the history of how DTs perform when they get into their late 20s-early 30s.

LaDainian Tomlinson YES Slam Dunk

Antonio Gates YES His numbers will get him there. Look at some of the TEs who are already there (Jackie Smith, Charlie Sanders, Dave Casper).

Andre Johnson NO Injuries have set him back during his career. I think he's in a spot where he needs to run off 4 or 5 Pro Bowl seasons in a row to make up for lost time.

Calvin Johnson YES Look what he did last year. Imagine what he would do with some talent around him.

Ed Reed YES Slam dunk. Best safety since Lott and Ken Houston.

Kerry Collins NO Vinny Testaverde has a better case.

Brian Urlacher NO He needs a year where he makes big plays and competes for a NFL Defensive Player of the Year award.

Warren Sapp YES The best DT in the post-Randy White/Lee Roy Selmon era.

Nmandi Asomugha NO I wonder how he's going to age cover skills wise. He's had some thread on him already and only about three outstanding seasons to his credit. He needs about 4 or 5 more to have a chance.

Brian Dawkins NO I would vote for him, but safeties have a tough time garnering attention, i.e. Dennis Smith, Steve Atwater, Carnell Lake,

Ryan CladyYES

Randy Moss YES Biggest slam dunk after LT and Reed on this list.

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Maybe? Probably? He's already in. 141 TDs all but seals the deal. HOF voters see big TD numbers (Marcus Allen) and they get wet.
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You say two safeties will get in but then say only Lott in the last 30 years has got in?

Then say, twice, that safeties have a tough time getting in?
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Maybe? Probably? He's already in. 141 TDs all but seals the deal. HOF voters see big TD numbers (Marcus Allen) and they get wet.
You're probably right but we'll see.

I really don't care anyways, the HoF is a bad joke as far as I'm concerned
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You say two safeties will get in but then say only Lott in the last 30 years has got in?

Then say, twice, that safeties have a tough time getting in?
I should have been more specific. Safeties that don't get a lot of interceptions, turnovers and big plays (TDs) have a tough time getting in. You really have to stand out at the position. The safety position is one of the most underrepresented positions in the HOF.

Reed is the best safety in the last 20 years. Has a Defensive Player of the Year award. A handful of INTs, TDs and big plays. He transcended the position.

Polomalu has two Super Bowl rings. Voters like All-Pros on championship teams. That's the primary reason I chose him.

In terms of playmaking, Lynch and Dawkins don't stand out. They fall short in that regard. That's why I said no for them.

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heres the list, put if you think they will make the hall of fame, and a brief explanation if you feel necessary. this is not necessarily what they have done to date, but what they may/will have accomplished by the time their career is over.
Josh McDaniels - Yes
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john lynch-No to many other players like him
troy palamalu-Maybe, depends on how he leaves the game
adrian peterson-To soon to tell
larry fitzgerald-To soon to tell
ben rothlisberger-QB's are hard, it all depends on if he leaves on top
domenik hixon (if you know whats good for you, youll vote yes)UMMM...NO
champ bailey-He needs a ring, and a defining season, but hes a face in the crowd
ty law-maybe...everyone has seen his down years
edgerrin james-if he has a couple reemergant years possibly
kurt warner-yes
torry holt-to many good receivers
albert haynesworth-no
ladanian tomlinson-yes
antonio gates-he's to young to guarentee, but I think if he continues as he is he will be better than Gonzo whom he is constantly compared to
andre johnson-see torry holt
calvin johnson-no
ed reed-yes...the heart of the ravens defense during the dominant years
kerry collins-haha thats funny
brian urlacher-yes
warren sapp-probably...why...i dunno
nmdandi asomugha-no...to many consonents in his name
brian dawkins-see john lynch
ryan clady-way to young
randy moss-the exception to the receivers...he will make it if he leaves on top of his game
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john lynch-No to many other players like him
troy palamalu-Maybe, depends on how he leaves the game
adrian peterson-To soon to tell
larry fitzgerald-To soon to tell
ben rothlisberger-QB's are hard, it all depends on if he leaves on top
domenik hixon (if you know whats good for you, youll vote yes)UMMM...NO
champ bailey-He needs a ring, and a defining season, but hes a face in the crowd
ty law-maybe...everyone has seen his down years
edgerrin james-if he has a couple reemergant years possibly
kurt warner-yes
torry holt-to many good receivers
albert haynesworth-no
ladanian tomlinson-yes
antonio gates-he's to young to guarentee, but I think if he continues as he is he will be better than Gonzo whom he is constantly compared to
andre johnson-see torry holt
calvin johnson-no
ed reed-yes...the heart of the ravens defense during the dominant years
kerry collins-haha thats funny
brian urlacher-yes
warren sapp-probably...why...i dunno
nmdandi asomugha-no...to many consonents in his name
brian dawkins-see john lynch
ryan clady-way to young
randy moss-the exception to the receivers...he will make it if he leaves on top of his game
its hard for big ben to get any more on top. even though he has had 2 #1 defenses on his side, he has 2 superbowls... i personally think he is slightly overrated but still, apparently rings are make or break for teh HOF for a ton of players even though it is a team game
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john lynch--yes, perrenial pro bowler and great leader...

troy palamalu--he's on pace...

adrian peterson--he's on pace...

larry fitzgerald--he's on pace...

ben rothlisberger--he's on pace...

domenik hixon (if you know whats good for you, youll vote yes)--yes, only because i know what's good for me...

champ bailey--yes, top 5 corner all-time...

ty law--yes, has the stats and hardware...

edgerrin james--has the numbers, but not the defining moments,no...

kurt warner--yes, has the hardware & accollades...

torry holt--has the numbers, but many WRs do...has hardware, but still no...

albert haynesworth--not on pace...

ladanian tomlinson--of course...

antonio gates--on pace...

andre johnson--early but on the right track...hard for WRs to get in...

calvin johnson--see above...

ed reed--yes, best playmaking safety i've ever seen...

kerry collins--huh?...

brian urlacher--on pace, but needs another big year imo...

warren sapp--oh yeah...top 5 most dominating DT i've ever seen...

nmdandi asomugha--on pace...

brian dawkins--yes,arguably the most beloved Eagle of all time, great player...

ryan clady--hard for o-lineman, but he's off to the right start...

randy moss--clearly, besting even Hayes as the greatest deep threat all time...

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its hard for big ben to get any more on top. even though he has had 2 #1 defenses on his side, he has 2 superbowls... i personally think he is slightly overrated but still, apparently rings are make or break for teh HOF for a ton of players even though it is a team game
If he leaves on top yea, but if he sticks around and muddies his numbers and reputation, it is the trick behind getting in the HOF. Guys want to play as long as they can, but if Barry had stuck around longer and began to look human, how different would his reputation had been. I just think that been could be the QB that gets into the hall because of how great his defense was and that he just managed games and won by handing the ball off and not throwing INTS
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