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Old 05-31-2009, 12:36 AM   #1
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Okay all you QB-droolers...here's a bone for you to chew on. The Broncos selected Fresno State's Brandstater in the 6th round. If you are familiar with him, then you'll be somewhat enthused about his addition to your now-QB-less (in reality) Broncos squad. Hopefully we'll avoid the annoying "Tom B to Tom B sixth-round pick" comparisons.

Brandstater has some talent. He's a big guy with a big frame (6'5") who can move around pretty well at football speed, he throws from the spread (which your Broncos will employ) pretty well, and he is savvy enough to make plays when things break down. He doesnt have a rocket, but his arm is NFL-calibur. He sees the field well from the spread. He also showed good leadership at Fresno State.

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Old 05-31-2009, 12:40 AM   #2
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yeah he does have some skill
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:49 AM   #3
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McDaniels picks a guy who can play? Cool.

Better than signing a RB who can't play I guess.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:53 AM   #4
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:55 AM   #5
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he throws a good ball, but i was actually more impressed with his receivers and backs. his highlight reel was highlighted by the supporting cast breaking runs, and shedding tacklers.

he has some skill, but even if he is the guy for our future, it isn't going to happen until 2011 at the soonest.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:56 AM   #6
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he has a VERY slow release.........not good in the NFL.............but maybe if he works on that........could be interesting
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I wouldn't say his release is that slow. Doesn't look much different to me than a guy like Rivers or Ben R. He's got a high delivery and his motion is fairly compact. Not a cannon arm, but he seems to put it where he needs to... given, it's a highlight reel so we're not seeing the misses. Nice size and clearly moves around well for a big guy.

I'm excited to see what he can do.
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And last year Fresno's offense had a bunch of key injuries which really hamstrung their success. I think he's a solid candidate for McD to coach up for a year or two and see what he can do.
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Cassell, Matt Gutierrez, Kevin O'Connell, Tom Brandstater....all seem to be similar types of developmental QB's. DEVELOPMENNNNT.
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yeah, his release didn't seem slow to me, not sure what you were seeing there.

I agree with Popps, for a guy that big, he has some good wheels on him. Arm seems strong enough.
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I watched a couple Fresno games. Like to watch the calif teams here and there. This dude really is the prototype drop back pocket passer. Hard to bring down, huge arm. IMO a little bit like a Kerry Collins. Not saying he can't be better then Collins, just sort of same type of QB.

He needs to work on his accuracy though because when I watched him he threw a bad pass for ever good pass. He can sling the ball around though and make every throw on a football field.

He's raw and will need a few yrs to grow.
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yeah, his release didn't seem slow to me, not sure what you were seeing there.

I agree with Popps, for a guy that big, he has some good wheels on him. Arm seems strong enough.
He has a little bit of a windup. If you want to see a quick release check out Fouts, Marino, 2 big guys with really quick releases and compact throwing motions.

Elway though had a wind up and was never really said to be a quick release guy. I think Brandstaters release is good enough for being a big guy. He just needs to work on his game and his accuracy.

Really it's all about accuracy in the NFL. Some guys get better at, some don't, only time will tell with this player.

I miss Cutler already.
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he has a VERY slow release.........not good in the NFL.............but maybe if he works on that........could be interesting
Yea maybe McD works on his mechanics....
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I'm digging Tommy B. - had my eye on him before the draft and I'm hoping he's more Matt Cassel than Matt Mauck.
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Weak arm. Lot better mobility than I thought. Little bit of a lower release, but not a problem. Some risky decisions and a lot of passes were severely underthrown forcing the receivers to come back to the ball or adjust taking away yards after the catch. I would say he was pretty inconsistent but certainly looked to have some potential. I think he was a very good 6th round pick. Not somebody that is going to come in and steal the job from the beginning, but in two or three years this guy has the tools to become a serious player. On the field he actually looks similar to Matt Cassel. Go figure.
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I watched a couple Fresno games. Like to watch the calif teams here and there. This dude really is the prototype drop back pocket passer. Hard to bring down, huge arm. IMO a little bit like a Kerry Collins. Not saying he can't be better then Collins, just sort of same type of QB.

He needs to work on his accuracy though because when I watched him he threw a bad pass for ever good pass. He can sling the ball around though and make every throw on a football field.

He's raw and will need a few yrs to grow.
Reminds me a little of Collins too. Looks like he is probably a little more mobile with a little less arm strength thoguh.
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The question I have is "Why did he regress from 2007 play to his level in 2008 ?" I don't have much faith in him developing into anything more then solid #2 in 3 to 4 years.
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This is very good breakdown on him

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/518867
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Old 05-31-2009, 08:15 AM   #19
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While culling through the list of late round draftees and UDFA's they signed looking for promising guys to report on, I was impressed with 6 or 7 of these guys, but he was not one of them....mainly because I found to many negative reports to go along with the positives. We'll see what he has but it appears he's a LONG term project.
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While culling through the list of late round draftees and UDFA's they signed looking for promising guys to report on, I was impressed with 6 or 7 of these guys, but he was not one of them....mainly because I found to many negative reports to go along with the positives. We'll see what he has but it appears he's a LONG term project.
Yeah I know. Meanwhile the QB (McGee) I wanted is very impressive in Cowboys camp. Who run a similar offense to McDaniels

Stephen McGee, QB, Dallas Cowboys: With only three games in a pro-style offense while at Texas A&M, McGee was expected to need a great deal of work, but insiders say the former Aggie was stunningly refined in his technique throughout Dallas' minicamp May 1-3. Coaches, including quarterback coach Wade Wilson, who played the position for 18 years in the NFL, raved about McGee's poise and accuracy throughout the camp.

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Yeah I know. Meanwhile the QB (Scott McGee) I wanted is very impressive in Cowboys camp. Who run a similar offense to McDaniels

Stephen McGee, QB, Dallas Cowboys: With only three games in a pro-style offense while at Texas A&M, McGee was expected to need a great deal of work, but insiders say the former Aggie was stunningly refined in his technique throughout Dallas' minicamp May 1-3. Coaches, including quarterback coach Wade Wilson, who played the position for 18 years in the NFL, raved about McGee's poise and accuracy throughout the camp.

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Yeah I've been hearing that also, though it might be just more pre-camp hype but he appears to have some physical tools. Bomar was another guy with tools who I have some familiarity with and his situation at Oklahoma leading to him transfering out kind of disrupted his development but I thought they might have an interest there. We'll see what happens but it's pretty hard to get enthused about anything QB related right now, let alone a 7th round pick who might be this year's Hackney. I'm more interested in what happens in next season's draft if this Orton experiment doesn't pan out. I like the UDFA D-line picks, plus Schlueter and Branson, maybe the Johnson kid from Jackson State a little, but I think this guy being named "Tom" is at least slightly responsible for people's optimism on him.
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Three things I saw this guy do well:

1. Great foot work on drop backs, and setting his back foot

2. Only saw him throw one fade route in the endzone, but it was in great postion: If he throws that well Marshall will be happy(cutler sucked at this)

3. Once again only really saw him throw one long ball down the sidelines, but he led the wr. beautifully: If he throws that well Royal will be happy(cutler really suck at this)

Couldn't see his read progressions well, because of shi^^y video editing!

Am I saying he is better than Cutler not even...yet, this guy hasn't even thrown a ball in the NFL, but if this kind of play transitions into the NFL, he could be good...just sayin

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I've seen him play in person a couple of times and he never really blew me away, just a solid college QB. That said, he didn't really have a lot of weapons outside that monster at TE.
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Three things I saw this guy do well:

1. Great foot work on drop backs, and setting his back foot

2. Only saw him throw one fade route in the endzone, but it was in great postion: If he throws that well Marshall will be happy(cutler sucked at this)

3. Once again only really saw him throw one long ball down the sidelines, but he led the wr. beautifully: If he throws that well Royal will be happy(cutler really suck at this)

Couldn't see his read progressions well, because of shi^^y video editing!

Am I saying he is better than Cutler not even...yet, this guy hasn't even thrown a ball in the NFL, but if this kind of play transitions into the NFL, he could be good...just sayin
Don't get to excited because all the scouting reports talk about his lack of accuracy on his ball over 20 yards. Plus supposed the ball floats up there. Like I said above he might be solid #2 in long term.
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I watched a couple Fresno games. Like to watch the calif teams here and there. This dude really is the prototype drop back pocket passer. Hard to bring down, huge arm. IMO a little bit like a Kerry Collins. Not saying he can't be better then Collins, just sort of same type of QB.

He needs to work on his accuracy though because when I watched him he threw a bad pass for ever good pass. He can sling the ball around though and make every throw on a football field.

He's raw and will need a few yrs to grow.
Pretty good comparison.

People like to bash on Collins, but the guy has played in a awful lot of playoff games with several teams. There's something to his game that helps offenses succeed, even if not that sexy on the stats sheet.
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