OT: North Korea - The Orange Mane

maher_tyler · 05-29-2009, 06:00 PM

Maybe this should go into the war forum or whatever...but is anyone else at all concerned. My wife is currently stationed over there and i'm honestly pretty worried that this time around some **** is gonna go down and it's going to be pretty ugly to say the least...WWIII anyone?!?!

sirhcyennek81 · 05-29-2009, 06:05 PM

Prayers for your wife man. My dad is stationed in Japan, he's back in the states now but only for a few days before he goes back over.

cutthemdown · 05-29-2009, 06:20 PM

Well ask yourself what N Korea has to gain by attacking. IMO not much. Obama will not have the balls to do a military strike so IMO not much chance of anything happening that could put your wife in danger anymore then she was before.

China would never support a N Korean attack on S Korea. N Korea gets 90% of fuel and most of what they eat through CHina.

for those reasons I dont think you should worry anymore then the normal way you would worry about a loved one who is a long ways away.

bronco0608 · 05-29-2009, 06:30 PM

Why do we have to get involved in any conflict North Korea has with anyone besides the United States?

maher_tyler · 05-29-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Well ask yourself what N Korea has to gain by attacking. IMO not much. Obama will not have the balls to do a military strike so IMO not much chance of anything happening that could put your wife in danger anymore then she was before.

China would never support a N Korean attack on S Korea. N Korea gets 90% of fuel and most of what they eat through CHina.

for those reasons I dont think you should worry anymore then the normal way you would worry about a loved one who is a long ways away.

I don't know, Kim Jong is definitely not there in the head...i wouldn't be all that surprised if something happens..hell he's doing nuke tests and launching missles left and right..but what your saying puts a little ease on the situation.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_us_north_korea_military

maher_tyler · 05-29-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco0608

Why do we have to get involved in any conflict North Korea has with anyone besides the United States?

There our allies...we have forces stationed in the south, in japan etc. Don't you watch the news at all?! In the end, the North would lose but there would be an insane amount of human life lost because of an idiot leader!!

Popps · 05-29-2009, 06:36 PM

If NK invades SK by ground, which is now being speculated... it'll be a much wider-sweeping response than we saw during the Iraq war.

bronco0608 · 05-29-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by maher_tyler

There our allies...we have forces stationed in the south, in japan etc. Don't you watch the news at all?! In the end, the North would lose but there would be an insane amount of human life lost because of an idiot leader!!

Its not our job to protect the world. When in the hell did that become our job?

Hogan11 · 05-29-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

If NK invades SK by ground, which is now being speculated... it'll be a much wider-sweeping response than we saw during the Iraq war.

That's what I think as well...plus indications are that China and Russia will not be backing them up this time around if they do that.

Ratboy · 05-29-2009, 06:40 PM

I am TDY to Korea right now. I am not too concerned, I am sure things will work out eventually.

I will start worrying when bullets and/or bombs start hitting.

bronco0608 · 05-29-2009, 06:41 PM

We can't keep footing the bill as American taxpayers to protect other people's ****. They (S.Korea) should fight their own battles, or better yet, why don't they spend billions upon billions like United States does on their defense?

Hell, let the rest of world fight their battles. We can't afford to.

maher_tyler · 05-29-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco0608

Its not our job to protect the world. When in the hell did that become our job?

Dude...if they invade the south by ground or whatever way..we have soldiers/airmen/marines stationed there, you know americans, what don't you get about that. A lot of them would possibely die with out warning. Your willing to just let something like that happen?!?!

gunns · 05-29-2009, 06:42 PM

My son goes over to S. Korea for a year in October. Thought this was great until lately. Jong doesn't have to have anything to gain, he just wants to prove he can do it. Idiot.

Ratboy · 05-29-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco0608

We can't keep footing the bill as American taxpayers to protect other people's ****. They (S.Korea) should fight their own battles, or better yet, why don't they spend billions upon billions like United States does on their defense?

Hell, let the rest of world fight their battles. We can't afford to.

Rinse, Wash, and Repeat.

You are saying the same things over. We understand we are not the world police (somebody has been watching Team America). However we're civilized and care about what happens to other people.

We have a dozen bases in South Korea (some which contain families) and you don't want us to get involved?

Ratboy · 05-29-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gunns

My son goes over to S. Korea for a year in October. Thought this was great until lately. Jong doesn't have to have anything to gain, he just wants to prove he can do it. Idiot.

I wouldn't worry about it. I personally have not heard anything from our leaders. The only thing i;ve heard so far is what the media is throwing at the wall.

maher_tyler · 05-29-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RTribbey

I am TDY to Korea right now. I am not too concerned, I am sure things will work out eventually.

I will start worrying when bullets and/or bombs start hitting.

It seems to be a lot more serious than i can remember it being...i get a gut feeling the North isn't going to back down/shut up this time like they usually do. And how many times can this crap keep happening before we use military force..what else can we do..one minute they say there going to stop and then there doing nuke tests again/launching a "commercial satelite". When does everyone just decide to smack them around to let them know were done with these games they keep playing?!

bronco0608 · 05-29-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RTribbey

Rinse, Wash, and Repeat.

You are saying the same things over. We understand we are not the world police (somebody has been watching Team America). However we're civilized and care about what happens to other people.

We have a dozen bases in South Korea (some which contain families) and you don't want us to get involved?

Oh, I had to watch a cartoon to come to that conclusion? Seriously now.

How about this? Evacuate all American troops, let them duke out, and call it night. How about that?

Spider · 05-29-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco0608

Its not our job to protect the world. When in the hell did that become our job?

Since the UN was created .......

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco0608

We can't keep footing the bill as American taxpayers to protect other people's ****. They (S.Korea) should fight their own battles, or better yet, why don't they spend billions upon billions like United States does on their defense?

Hell, let the rest of world fight their battles. We can't afford to.

If anything you have to keep Kim Jong Douchebag from gaining more resources, that Little pecker has done alot with what little he has , he gets south Korea he can gain even more .........

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Oh, I had to watch a cartoon to come to that conclusion? Seriously now.

How about this? Evacuate all American troops, let them duke out, and call it night. How about that?

I would love to see us pull out of S. Korea , I believe we had a chance back in the 90's , but not now .........

TonyR · 05-29-2009, 07:18 PM

Lots of good info on the topic in the article linked below.

http://www.slate.com/id/2219064/pagenum/all/#p2

cutthemdown · 05-29-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by maher_tyler

I don't know, Kim Jong is definitely not there in the head...i wouldn't be all that surprised if something happens..hell he's doing nuke tests and launching missles left and right..but what your saying puts a little ease on the situation.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_us_north_korea_military

I guess a case could be made he goes crazy since hes close to death. IMO though he would still need his generals to carry out the plan, and they may balk. I doubt the N Korean military want to deal with the whole world. Make no bones about it CHina will not help N Korea attack. If anything they would join in the counter attack.

True if USA tries some type of action to try and shut down the N Korean nuclear program then it would get really dangerous. Just trust in her training, the training of the other soldiers over there, and hope for the best.

No since worrying too much about it until there is something more to worry about.

Besides I bet your wife tells you not to worry!!!!!!!

Talk about the new era!!!! Hubbies worried about wives overseas serving their country. You've come a long way baby!!!!!!!!

IMO American women lead the women everywhere showing them they can be athletes, soldiers, moms, run companies, and still look hot.

Let's hear it for our women guys!!!!! They friggin rock!!!!!!!

cutthemdown · 05-29-2009, 07:27 PM

For anyone who doesn't see the merit in fulfilling our obligations to S Korea all I can say is maybe look a little deeper.

Some things more important then what it costs us to do it. The point is those people over there depend on us. Does that mean we can't maybe move some troops home and save money? no. But to just pack up and leave S Korea to the N Koreans and the Chinese it totally unacceptable.

I had family that fought in that war and the reasons were just despite what any tree hugging pacifist wants to try and say.

Who lives better S Korea, or N Korea? Hell N Koreans would be better off had we just kept up the fight and defeated China and the N Koreans commies.

No way we leave, not ever IMO.

Not to mention those troops are also a buffer which keeps Japanese from feeling they need to expand their military.

Things are bigger then a lot of people realize.

~Crash~ · 05-29-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco0608

Its not our job to protect the world. When in the hell did that become our job?

so you think them hurling nukes and saying that they want war with us we should just turn and run away ....

~Crash~ · 05-29-2009, 07:30 PM

Why should we go to war I say take a seal team in and cut the head of the snake off .

cutthemdown · 05-29-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Crash~

Why should we go to war I say take a seal team in and cut the head of the snake off .

kim jong will soon die.

~Crash~ · 05-29-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

kim jong will soon die.

yep castro is still ticking what 40 years or so after people said he will not last long...

05-29-2009, 06:00 PM	#1
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05-29-2009, 06:05 PM	#2
sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,674 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	Prayers for your wife man. My dad is stationed in Japan, he's back in the states now but only for a few days before he goes back over.

05-29-2009, 06:20 PM	#3
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,460	Well ask yourself what N Korea has to gain by attacking. IMO not much. Obama will not have the balls to do a military strike so IMO not much chance of anything happening that could put your wife in danger anymore then she was before. China would never support a N Korean attack on S Korea. N Korea gets 90% of fuel and most of what they eat through CHina. for those reasons I dont think you should worry anymore then the normal way you would worry about a loved one who is a long ways away.

05-29-2009, 06:30 PM	#4
bronco0608 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,177 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Why do we have to get involved in any conflict North Korea has with anyone besides the United States?

05-29-2009, 06:36 PM	#7
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	If NK invades SK by ground, which is now being speculated... it'll be a much wider-sweeping response than we saw during the Iraq war.

05-29-2009, 06:40 PM	#10
Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,276	I am TDY to Korea right now. I am not too concerned, I am sure things will work out eventually. I will start worrying when bullets and/or bombs start hitting.

05-29-2009, 06:41 PM	#11
bronco0608 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,177 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	We can't keep footing the bill as American taxpayers to protect other people's ****. They (S.Korea) should fight their own battles, or better yet, why don't they spend billions upon billions like United States does on their defense? Hell, let the rest of world fight their battles. We can't afford to.

05-29-2009, 06:42 PM	#13
gunns I WANT DEFENSE! Defense, defense, defense Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Always Hoping Posts: 11,657 Adopt-a-Bronco: Defense	My son goes over to S. Korea for a year in October. Thought this was great until lately. Jong doesn't have to have anything to gain, he just wants to prove he can do it. Idiot.

05-29-2009, 07:18 PM	#19
TonyR Franchise Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 15,566	Lots of good info on the topic in the article linked below. http://www.slate.com/id/2219064/pagenum/all/#p2

05-29-2009, 07:27 PM	#21
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,460	For anyone who doesn't see the merit in fulfilling our obligations to S Korea all I can say is maybe look a little deeper. Some things more important then what it costs us to do it. The point is those people over there depend on us. Does that mean we can't maybe move some troops home and save money? no. But to just pack up and leave S Korea to the N Koreans and the Chinese it totally unacceptable. I had family that fought in that war and the reasons were just despite what any tree hugging pacifist wants to try and say. Who lives better S Korea, or N Korea? Hell N Koreans would be better off had we just kept up the fight and defeated China and the N Koreans commies. No way we leave, not ever IMO. Not to mention those troops are also a buffer which keeps Japanese from feeling they need to expand their military. Things are bigger then a lot of people realize.

05-29-2009, 07:30 PM	#23
~Crash~ My new dog Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,600 Adopt-a-Bronco: Kuper	Why should we go to war I say take a seal team in and cut the head of the snake off .