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View Poll Results: Was this draft a failure because we got no NT?
Yes! It doesn't matter how our picks pan out. No DT = FAILED draft! 3 2.75%
No it was an awesome draft! Every player is a pro-bowler! 14 12.84%
I want to wait and actually see this team before I fly off the handle. 92 84.40%
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:24 PM   #1
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I want something to go back and reference so we can see how smart all you prophets are.
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:27 PM   #2
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I would have voted no, but there were statements in there I did not agree with. And we did get a DT who was ranked as a 4th round prospect, Chris Baker. And we got him on the cheap, too!
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:30 PM   #3
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I disliked the trading of picks for Quinn more than not drafting more D line
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:31 PM   #4
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I would have voted no as well except for the pick up we received at #12 in Moreno.
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:33 PM   #5
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I want to wait and actually see this team before I fly off the handle.

High hopes for both Knowshon & Ayers. Would have liked a fatty in the middle, but I'll wait to see how the free-agents workout.
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:49 PM   #6
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I am torn. I do like some of the players we got (Ayers, Moreno, Smith and Olsen), but I think we overpaid to get them and I think the lack of defensive linemen is going to come back and haunt the team in a big way.
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:53 PM   #7
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I'm pretty happy with the draft. Reloading the secondary was great, as was getting a legitimate RB and hybrid DE/OLB.
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:53 PM   #8
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It's no fun voting what everyone else voted. I want to change my answer to all the draft picks will be pro bowlers.
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Old 05-05-2009, 07:02 PM   #9
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Was it failure it early to say. But we probable extremely the hurt the future DL for not picking one or two development defense prospect on 2nd day.
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Old 05-05-2009, 07:26 PM   #10
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We did get a NT, Chris Baker ( 6-2 326) - he doesn't lack confidence in himself. Chris knows that professionally, he has all the physical tools one needs to be a successful nose tackle in the NFL. He has long arms, big hands which he uses well to shed blockers, and a powerful lower body. He anchors well and has good explosion. He doesn't mind taking on double teams.

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Old 05-05-2009, 07:30 PM   #11
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How would you define "failure"? That's pretty ambiguous but consider this; if any D-linemen in this draft that we had a chance to draft and didn't turn out to be impact players, and the defensive fails to make considerable progress due to our line...the choices will certainly be second guessed. For everyone that suggests this draft was poor in quality for D-line...it was also pretty mediocre for CB's as well, and we paid a pretty hefty price for one of those.
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Old 05-05-2009, 07:35 PM   #12
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I certainly dissagree with spending 6 picks on offense, as well as trading our 1st next year.

That was flat STUPID.

Also, I didn't care for moving up for a blocking TE whan we had Graham.
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Old 05-05-2009, 07:38 PM   #13
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You know, now that I think about it...I've been b****ing and whining about drafting a DT for years...And of the past 3 drafts(Other than this one), the only one where we took a DT was sort of a failure. The other two were wildly great.

What the hell do I know?
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:39 PM   #14
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I disliked the trading of picks for Quinn more than not drafting more D line
Question for you: If they had taken Quinn and Olsen with their original two 3rd rounds picks, would you still be pissed?
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:45 PM   #15
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Looks like we're not the only team desperate at DT. The big difference is that we're not showing it.

Colts Bring Back Ed Johnson
Posted by Mike Florio on May 5, 2009, 9:28 p.m. EDT

The Indianapolis Colts, still desperate for help at the defensive tackle position, have brought back Ed Johnson, according to the Associated Press.

The Colts cut Johnson last season after he was arrested for marijuana possession.

We are giving Ed Johnson another opportunity to play for the Indianapolis Colts, Colts coach Jim Caldwell said Tuesday in a statement. We dismissed Ed last year because he knowingly violated a team rule in the area of personal conduct. We consider every violation of a team rule or NFL policy on an individual case-by-case basis, and we evaluate a possible return to the team on that same basis.

I would like to thank the Colts, especially [owner] Jim Irsay, for this second privilege to join the team, Johnson said in a statement. I apologize to everyone for the situation I created last year.

Johnson, an undrafted rookie free agent in 2007, started every game during his first NFL season. He was dumped following his arrest after only one game in 2008.


http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...ck-ed-johnson/
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:22 PM   #16
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This draft on its own wasn't a failure, but the offseason as a whole has been a failure.
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This draft on its own wasn't a failure, but the offseason as a whole has been a failure.
well I am in thinking this because I don't belive our MLBers and NT will get it done our Run D will still suck
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:37 PM   #18
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and the poll it sucks it is total crap
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:37 PM   #19
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Have to wait and see, obviously. Still, if you don't get one of the top 2 or 3 d-linemen, all of whom were gone by the time the Broncos drafted, Baker is as good a gamble as any of the guys who came later and cost virtually nothing. Rulon and the guy with the funny name from Kurt Warner's school are good gambles as well.
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:38 PM   #20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaylore View Post
I want something to go back and reference so we can see how smart all you prophets are.
Your choices are so extreme that, of course, everyone votes for the somewhat neutral option.

For instance, I can strongly buy into the logic of not taking an NT in this particular draft without believing that every player we ended up choosing will be a pro bowler.
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:39 PM   #21
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Yes I still dont think this team can stop the run. I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:39 PM   #22
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I loved the draft but of course I don't think every player will make the probowl.

Good poll idea, terrible questions.
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:48 PM   #23
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Yes I still dont think this team can stop the run. I hope I'm wrong.
The secondary tackling will be much improved. So that's something, but in general I agree. We'll lose four yards at a time instead of ten.
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Old 05-05-2009, 10:06 PM   #24
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For this season - the answer is yes. The players we have might all turn out to be probowlers in the future. But without an NT, I feel like we're losing a season on developing our D.
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Old 05-05-2009, 10:09 PM   #25
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Looks like we're not the only team desperate at DT. The big difference is that we're not showing it.

The only place to show it is on the field.
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