Bowlen Unshaken on Vision For Broncos - The Orange Mane

Anaximines · 05-03-2009, 01:57 AM

Pretty good read on Bowlen and the current state of things without any of Woody's usual cuteness.

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http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_12281980
By Woody Paige
The Denver Post

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He would have preferred that the Broncos had drafted more defensive players last weekend.

He has not spoken to Mike Shanahan since he fired him.

His new coach, Josh McDaniels, committed "rookie mistakes," but he fully supports him and is growing more assured he will be outstanding in the long term.

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"Win the Super Bowl? Probably not. But if we lose our first two games — and that's a possibility — I'm not going to panic.

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The owner paused and said: "I have short-term memory loss. I know that some of the memories of the Super Bowl championships are fading."

cutthemdown · 05-03-2009, 03:23 AM

Pat Bowlen deserves a lot of thanks from the city of Denver IMO. Without him Broncos may not have ever won anything. Obviously he has gotten a lot back but IMO he's more grateful acting then a lot of the fans around here recently.

He a great owner and we are lucky he owns the Broncos.

I hope his memory thing is not the start of something worst and is just an age thing.

TDmvp · 05-03-2009, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Pat Bowlen deserves a lot of thanks from the city of Denver IMO. Without him Broncos may not have ever won anything. Obviously he has gotten a lot back but IMO he's more grateful acting then a lot of the fans around here recently.

He a great owner and we are lucky he owns the Broncos.

I hope his memory thing is not the start of something worst and is just an age thing.

Even as much as I have hated the last 4 months Pat is a great owner and I know what a bad owner does to a team . See the Bengals .

cutthemdown · 05-03-2009, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TDmvp

Even as much as I have hated the last 4 months Pat is a great owner and I know what a bad owner does to a team . See the Bengals .

TD think how hard it would be to stay out of it like he did. To have the self control to not pick up the phone and say I want you to draft more defense!!! has got to be immense.

I can't imagine owning the Broncos and not wanting to scream!!!!!!! DRAFT A DT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!

but he's smart he knows that he doesn't really know, and he leaves it to football people.

It's easy to see how much Shanny got so much power.

SouthStndJunkie · 05-03-2009, 03:43 AM

The owner paused and said: "I have short-term memory loss. I know that some of the memories of the Super Bowl championships are fading."

That is kind of concerning....I hope it is nothing like the early stages of Alzheimer's.

It's not like he is 80 years old....he is only 65 years old....too young to just have a lot of 'natural' memory loss.

If it is early stage Alzheimer's he needs to get on some medications to help slow the progress of the disease. They have made some progress in the field, but the key is early detection.

SouthStndJunkie · 05-03-2009, 03:46 AM

In all seriousness....maybe the memory loss explains the Gary Zimmerman Hall of Fame Induction speech.

Meck77 · 05-03-2009, 03:50 AM

"People will say I was lucky. I think I've always taken calculated risks," Bowlen said. "In this business, you have to take risks on players and coaches. There's been a lot of that going on lately, but I feel good about the risks I've taken."

Pat's oil business has been risky.
Pat's real estate business has been risky.
Buying the Broncos was risky.
Firing a stagnant manager that was no longer performing. His job.

Firing one of his highest paid employees for not returning his call? A formality.

Just another day at the office for a Billionaire.

That is a tough deal that he's potentially losing his memory. All the money in the world won't necessarily help him with that. I hope it's nothing serious.

HILife · 05-03-2009, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TDmvp

Even as much as I have hated the last 4 months Pat is a great owner and I know what a bad owner does to a team . See the Bengals and most of all Raiders.

Fixed it.

Cool Breeze · 05-03-2009, 04:50 AM

The owner paused and said: "I have short-term memory loss. I know that some of the memories of the Super Bowl championships are fading."

Perhaps this was toungue in cheek and this is his way of saying he wants some fresh memories of Super Bowls.

elsid13 · 05-03-2009, 05:03 AM

I like Bowlen but he needs to start thinking about successor. And for a guy that said he was charge, I am surprised that neither McDaniels or Xanders briefed him what was going on. Some would say that is a pattern.

"Bowlen is pleased with the quarterback, Kyle Orton, and the draft picks the Broncos got in return from Chicago, but when told many were puzzled why McDaniels didn't choose more defensive players in the recent draft, Bowlen replied:

"Me, too."

ND Bronco Fan · 05-03-2009, 05:26 AM

My memories of the last super bowls are fading too.....I'm in my 30's.....maybe there was a little tongue in cheek there.

Drek · 05-03-2009, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ND Bronco Fan

My memories of the last super bowls are fading too.....I'm in my 30's.....maybe there was a little tongue in cheek there.

Thats my assumption, Bowlen has never seemed like the kind of guy who'd divulge that much personal info to the press.

colonelbeef · 05-03-2009, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ND Bronco Fan

My memories of the last super bowls are fading too.....I'm in my 30's.....maybe there was a little tongue in cheek there.

it's totally tongue in cheek, I am surprised so many took it literally

Man-Goblin · 05-03-2009, 06:24 AM

Probably the most concerning article I've read about the Broncos in a while.

Rulon Velvet Jones · 05-03-2009, 06:44 AM

No worries, Pat. Moreno jersey sales will help ease things. Just sign the checks and don't try to make football decisions. That's Jerry Jones ****.

baja · 05-03-2009, 07:05 AM

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Bowlen is seeking new memories. "I love what I'm doing. I'm enjoying this offseason more than I have in a long time."

Me too Pat, me too...

gyldenlove · 05-03-2009, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Pat Bowlen deserves a lot of thanks from the city of Denver IMO. Without him Broncos may not have ever won anything. Obviously he has gotten a lot back but IMO he's more grateful acting then a lot of the fans around here recently.

He a great owner and we are lucky he owns the Broncos.

I hope his memory thing is not the start of something worst and is just an age thing.

Without him Denver may not have had a team anymore.

TonyR · 05-03-2009, 07:40 AM

Bowlen's presence has never been more pronounced than it was during the Cutler saga. Bowlen eventually ordered that Cutler be traded after the quarterback spurned his request to talk about differences he had with McDaniels, who had discussions with other teams about possibly trading Cutler.

"Honestly, I still don't know what happened with Jay. I don't want to throw him under the bus, but I made two phone calls (and there is proof, Broncos executives claim) and left voice mails with my cell number and asked him to call me, and he didn't," Bowlen said. "I don't do e-mails. If Jay had called and said he thought the coach was (not a nice person) and he wanted out of here, I would have said, 'Let's work this out.' But I heard nothing directly from him.

"Pick up the phone! That's where we got off the rails. We had no other choice but to trade him..."

Wait, you mean it wasn't McD's fault? It wasn't McD's decision?

Ellis, several sources say, was instrumental in getting Bowlen to agree to fire Shanahan, hire McDaniels (Ellis alone met with the new coach for a second interview) and trade Cutler.

Interesting.

DenverBrit · 05-03-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cool Breeze

The owner paused and said: "I have short-term memory loss. I know that some of the memories of the Super Bowl championships are fading."

Perhaps this was toungue in cheek and this is his way of saying he wants some fresh memories of Super Bowls.

That's the message I got from his comment.
Who thinks of 'short term' memory loss as a decade or more?
It's not remembering where you had lunch yesterday.

lostknight · 05-03-2009, 07:50 AM

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Bowlen is pleased with the quarterback, Kyle Orton, and the draft picks the Broncos got in return from Chicago, but when told many were puzzled why McDaniels didn't choose more defensive players in the recent draft, Bowlen replied:

"Me, too."

This is a warning shot across the bow. Shanny missed many of these. McDaniels should pay attention.

The memory thing is interesting. It might be his way of explaining away the fact that he told the newspaper many different things about his conversations with Jay.

DenverBrit · 05-03-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by lostknight

This is a warning shot across the bow. Shanny missed many of these. McDaniels should pay attention.

The memory thing is interesting. It might be his way of explaining away the fact that he told the newspaper many different things about his conversations with Jay.

Agreed. I can't remember Bowlen ever making a comment about who to draft or what his expectations might have been.
Bowlen knows his new HC has stirred up the fan base and community and while he will give McDaniels time to learn on the job, he won't show the same patience he had with Shanahan

SouthStndJunkie · 05-03-2009, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ND Bronco Fan

My memories of the last super bowls are fading too.....I'm in my 30's.....maybe there was a little tongue in cheek there.

Maybe the writer missed the context of the quote.

I don't know....this was in the article before the Super Bowl part:

• His health "is good," but he has experienced "short-term memory loss" in recent months.

baja · 05-03-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverBrit

Agreed. I can't remember Bowlen ever making a comment about who to draft or what his expectations might have been.
Bowlen knows his new HC has stirred up the fan base and community and while he will give McDaniels time to learn on the job, he won't show the same patience he had with Shanahan

I think you are over analyzing Bowlen, I think he just needs a few lessons in media speak, he should watch some of Shanny's old pressers on how to say nothing in 10,000 words or more.

DenverBrit · 05-03-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

I think you are over analyzing Bowlen, I think he just needs a few lessons in media speak, he should watch some of Shanny's old pressers on how to say nothing in 10,000 words or more.

I'm probably overcompensating on his behalf to counterbalance his gutless drunk image.

TheReverend · 05-03-2009, 08:29 AM

Ellis, who was director of marketing when Bowlen bought the majority ownership of the Broncos in 1984, has served in several executive capacities. He was named COO last year. Ellis, several sources say, was instrumental in getting Bowlen to agree to fire Shanahan, hire McDaniels (Ellis alone met with the new coach for a second interview) and trade Cutler.

That entire section is extremely curious to say the least. Strange, to say the least, how that was just casually thrown into the article.

05-03-2009, 03:50 AM	#7
Meck77 Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 16,312	"People will say I was lucky. I think I've always taken calculated risks," Bowlen said. "In this business, you have to take risks on players and coaches. There's been a lot of that going on lately, but I feel good about the risks I've taken." Pat's oil business has been risky. Pat's real estate business has been risky. Buying the Broncos was risky. Firing a stagnant manager that was no longer performing. His job. Firing one of his highest paid employees for not returning his call? A formality. Just another day at the office for a Billionaire. That is a tough deal that he's potentially losing his memory. All the money in the world won't necessarily help him with that. I hope it's nothing serious. Last edited by Meck77; 05-03-2009 at 04:12 AM..

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05-03-2009, 03:23 AM	#2
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,516	Pat Bowlen deserves a lot of thanks from the city of Denver IMO. Without him Broncos may not have ever won anything. Obviously he has gotten a lot back but IMO he's more grateful acting then a lot of the fans around here recently. He a great owner and we are lucky he owns the Broncos. I hope his memory thing is not the start of something worst and is just an age thing.

05-03-2009, 03:43 AM	#5
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,261	The owner paused and said: "I have short-term memory loss. I know that some of the memories of the Super Bowl championships are fading." That is kind of concerning....I hope it is nothing like the early stages of Alzheimer's. It's not like he is 80 years old....he is only 65 years old....too young to just have a lot of 'natural' memory loss. If it is early stage Alzheimer's he needs to get on some medications to help slow the progress of the disease. They have made some progress in the field, but the key is early detection.

05-03-2009, 03:46 AM	#6
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,261	In all seriousness....maybe the memory loss explains the Gary Zimmerman Hall of Fame Induction speech.

05-03-2009, 04:50 AM	#9
Cool Breeze Ring of Famer Broncos Rock! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: south of town Posts: 1,221	The owner paused and said: "I have short-term memory loss. I know that some of the memories of the Super Bowl championships are fading." Perhaps this was toungue in cheek and this is his way of saying he wants some fresh memories of Super Bowls.

05-03-2009, 05:03 AM	#10
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,096	I like Bowlen but he needs to start thinking about successor. And for a guy that said he was charge, I am surprised that neither McDaniels or Xanders briefed him what was going on. Some would say that is a pattern. "Bowlen is pleased with the quarterback, Kyle Orton, and the draft picks the Broncos got in return from Chicago, but when told many were puzzled why McDaniels didn't choose more defensive players in the recent draft, Bowlen replied: "Me, too."

05-03-2009, 05:26 AM	#11
ND Bronco Fan Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bismarck Posts: 1,260	My memories of the last super bowls are fading too.....I'm in my 30's.....maybe there was a little tongue in cheek there.

05-03-2009, 06:24 AM	#14
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,589 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	Probably the most concerning article I've read about the Broncos in a while.

05-03-2009, 06:44 AM	#15
Rulon Velvet Jones You're not really here. Tight Butthole Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,597 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rent-A-DC	No worries, Pat. Moreno jersey sales will help ease things. Just sign the checks and don't try to make football decisions. That's Jerry Jones ****.

05-03-2009, 07:40 AM	#18
TonyR Franchise Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 15,584	Bowlen's presence has never been more pronounced than it was during the Cutler saga. Bowlen eventually ordered that Cutler be traded after the quarterback spurned his request to talk about differences he had with McDaniels, who had discussions with other teams about possibly trading Cutler. "Honestly, I still don't know what happened with Jay. I don't want to throw him under the bus, but I made two phone calls (and there is proof, Broncos executives claim) and left voice mails with my cell number and asked him to call me, and he didn't," Bowlen said. "I don't do e-mails. If Jay had called and said he thought the coach was (not a nice person) and he wanted out of here, I would have said, 'Let's work this out.' But I heard nothing directly from him. "Pick up the phone! That's where we got off the rails. We had no other choice but to trade him..." Wait, you mean it wasn't McD's fault? It wasn't McD's decision? Ellis, several sources say, was instrumental in getting Bowlen to agree to fire Shanahan, hire McDaniels (Ellis alone met with the new coach for a second interview) and trade Cutler. Interesting.

05-03-2009, 08:29 AM	#25
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,020 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	Ellis, who was director of marketing when Bowlen bought the majority ownership of the Broncos in 1984, has served in several executive capacities. He was named COO last year. Ellis, several sources say, was instrumental in getting Bowlen to agree to fire Shanahan, hire McDaniels (Ellis alone met with the new coach for a second interview) and trade Cutler. That entire section is extremely curious to say the least. Strange, to say the least, how that was just casually thrown into the article.