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Old 04-30-2009, 02:59 PM   #1
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Our HC may not have landed the QB he wanted from the get go and although he did end up going to a division rival, there is some good in that also. Josh did teach and groom Cassel for many years so I'm sure he has a real good bead on what Cassel does good and what he doesn't. He will know his tendencies, what his favorite plays to run are, what throws he is best at, how good he reads defenses, etc.

I look forward to how well Daniel's works with Nolan to design defenses to attack Cassel and company.
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while that does seem interesting, given that Haley is going to implement his own offensive scheme, means McDaniels isn't going to be able to rely on tendencies from Cassel's Patriot days.
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That was my first reaction when the Chiefs traded for him

I was like "oh this is interesting, our coach should know how to take advantages of his weaknesses"
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while that does seem interesting, given that Haley is going to implement his own offensive scheme, means McDaniels isn't going to be able to rely on tendencies from Cassel's Patriot days.
well over time it will change ya, but im sure McDaniels has an inside advantage on gameplanning against Cassel that few coaches would have
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Just because a QB has a new offense and new set of plays to run and new teamates doesn't mean his tendencies change. Many of the plays around the NFL are very similar, they just have different names from team to team. It wasn't like Josh had Cassel for one year after he had been in the league for several years. Josh "groomed" him and "developed" him. I'm sure he has a real good knowledge of what makes Cassel the most comfortable on the field and what makes him just as uncomfortable. Sure, people watch tape all the time to try and figure stuff out but the one thing you can't get from tape is what's going on inside the players head, especially a QB. He knows how Cassel goes through his pre-reads, how he goes through his progressions, his footwork, his delivery, etc. I'm not saying Cassel won't play well, all I am saying it's not a bad thing to have your HC know everything and anything there is about another QB in the same division, and not just the stuff you see on tape, but what's going through a players head at the time you are watching tape. That has to have an advantage somewhere.

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Hopefully McD doesn't love Cassel so much that he holds back from exposing Cassel's weaknesses.

If McD really wants to win, he'll expose every flaw Cassel has and prep Nolan and the defense accordingly. McD's thought process should be "I know Cassel better than he knows himself."
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Our HC may not have landed the QB he wanted from the get go and although he did end up going to a division rival, there is some good in that also. Josh did teach and groom Cassel for many years so I'm sure he has a real good bead on what Cassel does good and what he doesn't. He will know his tendencies, what his favorite plays to run are, what throws he is best at, how good he reads defenses, etc.

I look forward to how well Daniel's works with Nolan to design defenses to attack Cassel and company.
Cassels strengths: Josh Mcdaniels, Wes Welker and Randy Moss

Cassels weaknesses: Dwayne Bowe, Bobby Engram and Mark Bradley
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I smell an MDL (McHoodie Defense League) argument coming...BUT:

I doubt the Chief's offense will emply all the same tendencies the Pats did. Given the choice however, I'd rather have my GM know the opposing coach backwards and forward than for my coach know what the opposition's QB did for one year in a different system.
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I smell an MDL (McHoodie Defense League) argument coming...BUT:

I doubt the Chief's offense will emply all the same tendencies the Pats did. Given the choice however, I'd rather have my GM know the opposing coach backwards and forward than for my coach know what the opposition's QB did for one year in a different system.
Yeah, like GM's are coaches and get involved in all the plays and stuff. He might now what types of players Josh likes or how well he can work a cap and stuff like that but I doubt he was sitting on the bench next to Cassel and Josh discussing what the defenses were doing, what plays they could go to in an audible situation, and on and on. No sir, a HC knowing the other teams QB inside and out is worth more then a GM knowing what kinds of players a coach likes to work with. If anything, I think the book on Josh is that most people are realizing just how UNPREDICTABLE is really is. I highly doubt Pioli has a good understanding of how Josh will run his team. Billy Boy was the end all be all at NE and I bet Pioli knows alot more about him then he does Josh.
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I smell an MDL (McHoodie Defense League) argument coming...BUT:

I doubt the Chief's offense will emply all the same tendencies the Pats did. Given the choice however, I'd rather have my GM know the opposing coach backwards and forward than for my coach know what the opposition's QB did for one year in a different system.
Interesting times, we shall see who gets the better of who.
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Elvis Grabc > Matt Cassel

Cassel will be on his back more than Paris Hilton at Mardi Gra.

Dawne "Butter Fingers" Bowe is his go to guy....

Brian Waters is the only NFL caliber offensive lineman...

No Tony Gonzalez?

Larry "fiddy cent" Johnson...

Where have you gone, Randy Moss
Matt Cassel turns its lonely eyes to you (Woo, woo, woo)




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Won't matter. Cassell is going to be benched by the end of the year.
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Thank god we don't play the Bears in the regular season. Otherwise Kyle Orton's weaknesses might also be exposed.
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Elvis Grabc > Matt Cassel

Cassel will be on his back more than Paris Hilton at Mardi Gra.

Dawne "Butter Fingers" Bowe is his go to guy....

Brian Waters is the only NFL caliber offensive lineman...

No Tony Gonzalez?

Larry "fiddy cent" Johnson...

Where have you gone, Randy Moss
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Cassell ran a ton last year. I expect the same this year, especially with that crappy chef OL
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I hope this plays out as well as it did for Shanny when he was HC for the Butt-pirates.

Here's to hoping McStalin gets flipped off by Cassel 2 times a year!
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Our HC may not have landed the QB he wanted from the get go and although he did end up going to a division rival, there is some good in that also. Josh did teach and groom Cassel for many years so I'm sure he has a real good bead on what Cassel does good and what he doesn't. He will know his tendencies, what his favorite plays to run are, what throws he is best at, how good he reads defenses, etc.

I look forward to how well Daniel's works with Nolan to design defenses to attack Cassel and company.
Excellent point! Who better to know his strengths and weaknesses
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Cassels strengths: Josh Mcdaniels, Wes Welker and Randy Moss

Cassels weaknesses: Dwayne Bowe, Bobby Engram and Mark Bradley
Under weakness' I would add Josh McDaniels and Robert Ayers.
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LMFAO I'm sure Cassel is shaking in his boots over the "talented" front seven that is the Denver Broncos defense.

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McDaniels thought Cassels strengths were better than Cutlers. And his weaknesses were less than Cutlers.
I think Cutler is an awesome QB, that has me excited about Cassel. I am NOT impressed with McDaniels yet, but I am not that impressed with Haley yet either.
This rivalry just got a whole new spark and we should both be excited about it.
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Thank god we don't play the Bears in the regular season. Otherwise Kyle Orton's weaknesses might also be exposed.
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McDaniels thought Cassels strengths were better than Cutlers. And his weaknesses were less than Cutlers.
I think Cutler is an awesome QB, that has me excited about Cassel. I am NOT impressed with McDaniels yet, but I am not that impressed with Haley yet either.
This rivalry just got a whole new spark and we should both be excited about it.
Thats not true.

Early in this pre-season... McDaniels would be teaching his staff and coaches on HOW to teach his system. Having Cassel on the team, would give him an additional coach that already KNEW the system adn could be working with the offense without McDaniels having to have a constant eye on it. This was a move PURELY because McDoofus felt it would be more valuable for THIS year to have someone know his team.

If he thought Cassel's 'strengths' were better than Cutler's... then that just shows just how much of a McDoofus he truly is.

No WAY he thought Cassel's "strengths" were better than Cutler's.....
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LMFAO I'm sure Cassel is shaking in his boots over the "talented" front seven that is the Denver Broncos defense.

I am sure Kyle Orton is shaking in his boots over the "talented" front seven that is the KFC defense which was actually ranked worse than the Talented Bronco defense last year!

Does the NFL allow LB's to use walkers and wheelchairs now?
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Thank god we don't play the Bears in the regular season. Otherwise Kyle Orton's weaknesses might also be exposed.
Oh thank god. Totally, OMG, totally thank god. In fact, I don't even think we should play the games between us and KC. Josh will know everything going through Cassel's head before even Cassel thinks of it. He's like one step ahead of him all the time.

You clown.

The point is that there is an advantage to knowing a player that well. Does it mean you win the game? No. Does it mean you might have an edge in a few areas of the game? Maybe.

But I digress, you sarcastic drama queens can over react and totally continue to miss the point because you don't spend 2 seconds thinking about something before you type.

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