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Old 04-29-2009, 11:55 PM   #1
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Guess Who? No its not Josh McDaniels, It's JAY CUTLER. I really want to drop this issue and I really hope that everyone who has moved passed this forgives me for bringing it up but Cutler is a two faced liar. The thing that made we want to write this post is this quote from espn article about Josh McDaniels:

"Another Cutler endorsement: He was beyond bummed during the Denver stalemate, Vanderbilt strength and conditioning coach John Sisk says. But he still managed to work out religiously at his alma mater. He was lifting weights on April 2, the day he got the call that he was free from Denver.

"He was smiling and high-fiving all the guys," Sisk says. "He had to go buy a suit because he was going to Chicago the next day. He left during a tornado warning." "

Does this really seem like the guy who earlier was saying: you know I really wasn't expecting them to trade me.'

The Broncos originally received calls from other teams in the League hoping to aquire Cutler in a three way trade for Matt Cassel. The Broncos considered the offer but never moved beyond that point. This is a proven fact in the NFL and a number of teams have verified that they were the ones initiating the calls but they never moved beyond that.

There are rumors that Cutler had already asked for a trade when Jeremy Bates left the team.

According to McDaniels the Broncos informed Cutler and his agent that there were possible trade talks but they weren't moving forward.

Adam Scheffler reports about the possibility of a three way trade. The fall out of this is there is a lot of uphevel and speculation done by both the media and fans.

For the next little bit there is a lot of back and forth between the Broncos and Cutler and the Broncos and the Media.

Cutler changes his story from 1. You tried to trade 2. You never said I was your #1 Qb. 3. You hurt my feelings. I'm not sure what fantasy world most people are living in but welcome to the real world! It is a mean and pretty crappy place where everyone is expendable not matter how terrific you think you are. The only way you are going to get ahead is by fight for it. You might do this as a individual you might do this as a group but each day is a grind.

Fact: The Broncos then extend the Olive branch to Cutler in a television interview. There is a little more communication back and forth but it never moves beyond text messages.

Fact: Culter officially asks to be traded.

Finally the Owner Mr. Pat Bowlen who has done more for the Denver Broncos than any person alive or dead (and people calling him out really ticked me off) tries to call Jay Cutler multiple times. This a fact they wouldn't have annouce to the media if it wasn't true. They have the phone records! You don't say that because you will be found out.

Cutler never responds to Bowlens phone calls, So Bowlen gets the GM to call Cutler's agent so that Cutler will return Bowlen's phone call by the end of the day. I'm don't know about you but if the guy who is signing my multi-million dollar checks calls me, I return his phone call as fast as I can. Obviously this didn't happen and Bowlen talks with Gus Cook Cutler agent. (I've never heard of Bowlen lying and everyone who's ever worked for him as far as I've heard has sung his praise. So if he's said something I would assume it's true.)

Bowlen talks with Cook and is informed that Cutler wants a trade and that he no longers wants to play for the Broncos. What is Bowlen to do but get his Football staff to trade Cutler. He disrespects him and won't even return his phone calls.

Later Cutler is seen at a fight in Tennesesse saying that he really didn't want to be trade and that he was hoping things would work themselves out.

April 2, Cutler is trade and when he finds out is jumping for joy giving high fives all over the place. To bad none of his teamates could share in those high fives.

Cutler has lied and cheated Bronco's Fans and still many fans are still defending him. Mike Mayock the entire draft couldn't understand why we let him go? Cutler should be to the Broncos what Bob Petrino is to Falcons. The only good thing is we actually got something out of the parting.

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Old 04-30-2009, 12:03 AM   #2
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IIRC, wasn't he a Bears fan growing up? Man, if I were drafted by, say the 49ers, I'd be loyal to them. But if the same situation went down(Which it would'nt) with me going to the Broncos, then I'd be over the ****ing moon, regardless of how I felt about San Fran or the Niners.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:04 AM   #3
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This is getting tedious. I wish you'd just get over it already.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:04 AM   #4
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Gus Cook? Really?
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:05 AM   #5
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IIRC, wasn't he a Bears fan growing up? Man, if I were drafted by, say the 49ers, I'd be loyal to them. But if the same situation went down(Which it would'nt) with me going to the Broncos, then I'd be over the ****ing moon, regardless of how I felt about San Fran or the Niners.


I feel the same way. I'd be out of my mind if I had the opportunity to play for the team I've loved since I was a kid. I'm not sure why we're supposed to be outraged that Cutler was excited that his dream scenario played out for him.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:08 AM   #6
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Maybe because he made Pat and McD to be the bad guys when all along Cutler just wanted a trade? It was very apparent that Cutler wanted out all along yet he continued to insist he didn't want a trade. That doesn't bug you at all Taco?

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Old 04-30-2009, 12:09 AM   #7
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Heav is an idiot. All he is doing is making the Cutler supporters dig in even further. If people don't want to see it for what it is, why try and force the issue? You're just making yourself sound like a broken record.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:09 AM   #8
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Some people just can't let it go...I'm seeing random posts about diabetes and Cutler in a swine flu thread and now little stuff like this thread.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:12 AM   #9
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Personally, I wish they would of called his bluff and refused to trade him.

Oh well, It is what it is...
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Some people just can't let it go...I'm seeing random posts about diabetes and Cutler in a swine flu thread and now little stuff like this thread.


Didn't realize the subject was a closed topic? I thought the post was relevant since Dr pointed out that 75,000 people die every year of Diabetes. From what I understood diabetes is very "treatable". The reality is it's one of the top killers in our country.

Personally I'm relieved we have a QB with a clean bill of health even though we had a big talent drop. Seems like the risk to keep wasn't worth it IMO otherwise they would have sucked up the drama and rolled with Cutler.

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Didn't realize the subject was a closed topic? I thought the post was relevant since Dr pointed out that 75,000 people die every year of Diabetes. From what I understood diabetes is very "treatable". The reality is it's one of the top killers in our country.

Personally I'm relieved we have a QB with a clean bill of health even though we had a big talent drop. Seems like the risk to keep wasn't worth it IMO otherwise they would have sucked up the drama and rolled with Cutler.
You may not know it, but Cutler is monitored everyday about his blood sugar levels from physicians. He gets way more care than the average joe, not to mention he sees some of the top specialists in the world to stay on top of this problem.

If Cutler's health was deteriorating from playing football , he would be laying in a hospital bed by now.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:26 AM   #12
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I knew a sales manager with type 1. His mood swings and his personality changes when his blood sugar dipped were epic. It didn't make him a bad guy but in all honesty people didn't like to be around him too much. In a team sport even managing the sugar level does not fully fix the mood swings and moodyness. I have the feeling this may have been part of the problem.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:28 AM   #13
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This is getting tedious. I wish you'd just get over it already.
Seriously. Cutler haters are still trying to bash a guy that did nothing but good for the city of Denver and its most cherished sports team.
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You may not know it, but Cutler is monitored everyday about his blood sugar levels from physicians. He gets way more care than the average joe, not to mention he sees some of the top specialists in the world to stay on top of this problem.

If Cutler's health was deteriorating from playing football , he would be laying in a hospital bed by now.
I have no doubt he has the best doctors available. I certainly don't think it's effecting him now but he was protected pretty well in Denver. I wish the kid the best but I think it's going to hurt his career and shorten it.

Get over cutler eh? Ok can we add Griese and plummer to that list?
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Some people just can't let it go...I'm seeing random posts about diabetes and Cutler in a swine flu thread and now little stuff like this thread.
Plummer and Griese still find their way into threads. We'll see fricken Cutler threads for the next decade...
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What I will say is, it's highly ironic that in Denver, John Elway sits at the right hand of God and Cutler is the personification of evil. Memories are short, aren't they? The only reason Elway ended up in Denver is because Elway refused to sign with Frank Kush and the Baltimore Colts, eventually playing baseball before forcing a trade.

How were Elway and Cutler different? Or Eli Manning, for that matter, who refused to play for San Diego and forced a trade to New York?

"That's weird, isn't it? I've thought about that,'' Cutler said. "He (Elway) did a similar thing to what I did. People forget and perceptions change. When you win some Super Bowls like John or one like Eli, people forget certain things.''
Isn't he basically saying he forced a trade just like Elway and Eli
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Yes, it's surprising that there's still people who support Cutler's version, but those people are so dug in--so beyond the pale, so delusional that they'll savor our loses and McD's gaffe's forevermore.

Let's just hope the Broncos win, the haters sleek away for awhile, and then come back and no one knows the difference, right?
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Isn't he basically saying he forced a trade just like Elway and Eli
It's a far different thing after a fanbase and organization has invested three years in you.
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Yes, it's surprising that there's still people who support Cutler's version, but those people are so dug in--so beyond the pale, so delusional that they'll savor our loses and McD's gaffe's forevermore.

Let's just hope the Broncos win, the haters sleek away for awhile, and then come back and no one knows the difference, right?
They might have to split the stadium into two groups. Those that want to see the team win and those that want to see the team lose*.

*Just a little joke.
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They might have to split the stadium into two groups. Those that want to see the team win and those that want to see the team lose*.

*Just a little joke.
Joke or not. The issue is saddenly divisive. Plenty of articulate Bronco fans are so falling into a petty rabbit hole, that the whole orange mane community is worse for it.
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You may not know it, but Cutler is monitored everyday about his blood sugar levels from physicians.
".... buuuurp.... arhhhh.... hey dochh.... howms myy blood sooogahr...... BURP....

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Oh, by the way... I encountered a Boltz fan while out and about tonight. Fwiw, he said he doesn't think the Broncos will be in contention for anything but the division cellar in '09.

(waiting for the accusation of "lying" from someone who was not there and has no clue what was or was not said....)
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Oh, by the way... I encountered a Boltz fan while out and about tonight. Fwiw, he said he doesn't think the Broncos will be in contention for anything but the division cellar in '09.

(waiting for the accusation of "lying" from someone who was not there and has no clue what was or was not said....)


Heck, Blue... a Chargers fan had bad things to say about us?

Holy cow. I hope you were sitting down.
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Who is this doucheCut you are all talking about
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Old 04-30-2009, 01:36 AM   #25
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Isn't he basically saying he forced a trade just like Elway and Eli
there is also a difference in those scenarios. Elway and Eli bothed voiced those opinions prior to being drafted.

and that is different because offenses hadn't been built up around them yet, no teammates were counting on them yet. they were just college kids at the time and no big deal. Cutler was here for 3 years, had his teammates counting on him, a fanbase very loyal to him, and an offense built around him.

had Elway or Eli voiced their opinions about not wanting to play for the Colts and Chargers after a few years with the teams, it would have been a huge deal, but they told those teams before they drafted them, so that there were no upset fans or teammates in the scenarios
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