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Old 04-27-2009, 02:58 PM   #1
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The questions first arose when the new regime in Denver tried to trade quarterback Jay Cutler for Matt Cassel. The subject intensified when the new regime lost a standoff with Cutler, ultimately trading him to Chicago.

The verdict on the transaction ultimately will be determined by the value of the return: two first-round picks, a third-round pick and quarterback Kyle Orton.

While it remains to be seen whether defensive end/linebacker Robert Ayers will help reverse a troubling trend on defense over the past few years, a first-round pick from 2010 was converted to a second-round pick in a draft generally regarded as weak.

So the performance of both Ayers and cornerback Alphonso Smith will go a long way toward determining whether the Broncos got a good deal -- and whether McDaniels and Brian Xanders are the right men for the jobs they hold.

Then there's the issue of taking running back Knowshon Moreno with the No. 12 overall pick in the draft, after acquiring several tailbacks in free agency. Unless Moreno becomes the next Adrian Peterson, the Broncos would have been wiser to use that pick on a player like defensive end Brian Orakpo (who, in all fairness, could be this year's version of Vernon Gholston) or cornerback Malcolm Jenkins.

That way, they could have kept the 2010 first-rounder, and they could have used the extra third-round pick on a running back.

Instead, they sent two picks to Pittsburgh for the last pick in the second round, which was devoted to the acquisition of a blocking tight end that the team doesn't really need -- unless the next guy to go is veteran Daniel Graham.

Then, to cap the weekend, "McXanders" was reportedly shopping the team's 2007 first-rounder, Jarvis Moss, for a seventh-round pick.

Hey, maybe the Broncos will turn things around, and maybe they're making great decisions. But the moves they've made to date aren't especially encouraging, and it could make for a long year in Denver.




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Old 04-27-2009, 03:01 PM   #2
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Dont we have enough of these bull**** threads? Granted, I am adding to it but how many different ways and times can some people say they dont like the coaching staff? Honestly...


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The whole premise and the presepective that these paragraphs stem from are completely flawed.
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Old 04-27-2009, 03:04 PM   #4
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He was posting what was being said at The Sporting News.
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This is Mike Florio, end thread
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i like how he says Denver was better off getting Orakpo, then immediately claims he might be a bust. Nice
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Oh, let's have more "fire McDaniels" threads. Makes for such great reading. Kindergarten class must have just been released for the day.
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Here's a simple question. Would you rather be going into this season with:

Slowik & Shanny or Nolan & McDaniels

Because as Shanny made clear, Slowik was going nowhere. Which means that our defense would again have been horrific. No amount of whining and revisions can change that one true fact.
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Here's a simple question. Would you rather be going into this season with:

Slowik & Shanny or Nolan & McDaniels

Because as Shanny made clear, Slowik was going nowhere. Which means that our defense would again have been horrific. No amount of whining and revisions can change that one true fact.
But hey, ignore all the draft busts Shanahan took on the defensive side of the ball, especially DL, they were going to get it right this time though. 10th year is the charm.
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Same old crap!! The writer must be paid just to fill space, does he think anyone is going to read this and think "wow" this is great stuff about the Broncos.
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This is the generally agreed upon assessment of the Denver Broncos as the rest of the NFL and observers see it.

Only homers are touting how great this offseason has been. Even orangemane.com god and scouting maven Mike Mayock himself has said time and time again that this offseason has been a total cluster****, even if some of the picks were good ones (which I do believe to be true)

Watching Mayock, Gruden, and Casserle go back and forth on how stupid it was to lose Cutler in the first place was really disheartening
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Oh, let's have more "fire McDaniels" threads. Makes for such great reading. Kindergarten class must have just been released for the day.
If you dislike them that much, then why do you open them? It's clear from the title that this thread won't be McDaniels worship... yet there it is... your post on it. Instead of whining, why not just skip right on over those threads?
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If you dislike them that much, then why do you open them? It's clear from the title that this thread won't be McDaniels worship... yet there it is... your post on it. Instead of whining, why not just skip right on over those threads?

Instead of b****ing about McDaniels 24 hours a day, why not become a Bear fan? McDaniels isn't being fired before he's even coached one game. Move on already. Geesh.
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Old 04-27-2009, 03:19 PM   #15
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If you dislike them that much, then why do you open them? It's clear from the title that this thread won't be McDaniels worship... yet there it is... your post on it. Instead of whining, why not just skip right on over those threads?
He thinks he can make a difference and is trying to put out fires.
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Instead of b****ing about McDaniels 24 hours a day, why not become a Bear fan? McDaniels isn't being fired before he's even coached one game. Move on already. Geesh.
Sweet rhetorical question.

I have one for you:

Instead of opening a thread you clearly won't agree with, and then for the 10,000th time reminding people you don't agree with it, why not stick your head in the oven?
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Someone wake me up when these people are over this old news.
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Sweet rhetorical question.

I have one for you:

Instead of opening a thread you clearly won't agree with, and then for the 10,000th time reminding people you don't agree with it, why not stick your head in the oven?
Oh, Bowlen has finally agreed to your request. He has finally decided a beer-bellied fatass knows more than anyone else and has dumped McDaniels before he's even coached one game. The countless threads were just too much for him and caused him to make the decision. He wants to thank the fans for being so contructive with their time and repeating the same **** over and over.
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Instead of b****ing about McDaniels 24 hours a day, why not become a Bear fan? McDaniels isn't being fired before he's even coached one game. Move on already. Geesh.
How about losing the "go root for another team" card? It's incredibly lame. And why is it that there are no "barryr" posts on threads that obviously will agree with your perspective? (example: Moreno & Ayers = Clady & Royal)? Is it that you'd prefer to harangue and bully those whose viewpoints differ from yours instead of celebrating with those who do?
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But hey, ignore all the draft busts Shanahan took on the defensive side of the ball, especially DL, they were going to get it right this time though. 10th year is the charm.
Not sure I get your point. My point was that I'd rather have Nolan and McDaniels. At least this year, we have the possibility of an improved defense and some fresh creative offense -- things that would not have been possible if Slowik and Shanny were still here.
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Oh, Bowlen has finally agreed to your request. He has finally decided a beer-bellied fatass knows more than anyone else and has dumped McDaniels before he's even coached one game. The countless threads were just too much for him and caused him to make the decision. He wants to thank the fans for being so contructive with their time and repeating the same **** over and over.
First off, that's a horridly inaccurate depiction of me.

Secondly, I'm now 100% sure you're missing the point of a FAN MESSAGE BOARD.
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Old 04-27-2009, 03:36 PM   #22
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which was devoted to the acquisition of a blocking tight end that the team doesn't really need

It really amazes me that people get paid to write this stuff. I understand it's editorial, but that statement is so patently idiotic... anything else in the article is just rendered useless.

Absolutely, 100% bull****. This guy needs to do a little homework and re-write that turd.
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This is the generally agreed upon assessment of the Denver Broncos as the rest of the NFL and observers see it.
No it isn't. Trent Dilfer likes the moves McDaniels has made and would want to play for him. Mike Smith on ESPN said he likes the moves and that McDaniels "knows how to build a team." Mike Mayock likes all our selections and thinks they add toughness. One of the other writers for the sporting news gave us an A-. I know you want to imagine it where the whole universe hates McDaniels but it isn't so.
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All I know is this:

All the free-agents, draft picks, undrafted free-agents and current talent on the roster.

This summer camp is going to be about Competition
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No it isn't. Trent Dilfer likes the moves McDaniels has made and would want to play for him. Mike Smith on ESPN said he likes the moves and that McDaniels "knows how to build a team." Mike Mayock likes all our selections and thinks they add toughness. One of the other writers for the sporting news gave us an A-. I know you want to imagine it where the whole universe hates McDaniels but it isn't so.
Kay,

It's not worth it bro. There is a select group of people that think/want this team to fail. Then there are the armchair pro draft guide book reading Madden video game coaches that think they have a clue.

This team winning will eliminate the asshat's and shut-up many of the haters.
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