Anyone have Kiper's insider grades? - The Orange Mane

KansasBronco · 04-27-2009, 08:03 AM

Could someone post Kipers grades if they have insider? Would love to have McShay also.

Thanks

Dudeskey · 04-27-2009, 08:22 AM

**** Kiper....™

Broncoman13 · 04-27-2009, 08:22 AM

Kiper didn't like our draft. Gave up a first for Smith was questionable... yada yada yada.

He takes into account us giving up a first and allows that to affect our grade. But he doesn't take into account that the Seahawks gained a pick in 2010 with their grade. Nor does he account for the Eagles trades (Peters and Hobbs) in their draft grade. He's a hack!

Gcver2ver3 · 04-27-2009, 08:24 AM

Kiper gave us a C....

i don't have insider, i heard it on Mike & Mike...

dbfan21 · 04-27-2009, 08:26 AM

Seriously. It was so hard to sit and listen to Kiper this weekend. He's wrong so much yet he keeps his job. It was like watching the weatherman tell you it's a beautiful weekend to be outdoors while you're on the back patio watching the rain come down in buckets.

Pointless!

I am going to reserve judgement on our draft until TC rolls around and I get to see the team in the preseason.

Chris · 04-27-2009, 08:33 AM

Even when he's right it's because he sets it up like such "They're going to take this position, this position or this position"

Kiper talks like a muppet and looks like a muppet. I'm seeing flashes f the count. Someone make a Kiper muppet already.

KansasBronco · 04-27-2009, 08:35 AM

I watched the NFL Network the entire draft. Mayock blows away Kiper. I still wanted to see what he said about all the teams.

titan · 04-27-2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KansasBronco

I watched the NFL Network the entire draft. Mayock blows away Kiper. I still wanted to see what he said about all the teams.

I did the same - I had always watched ESPN draft coverage before - and NFL Network was MUCH BETTER. I liked Gruden's comments on nfln too.

Too bad I'll be losing NFLN in a few days due to the comcast dispute. At least I have Sirius NFL radio now.

colonelbeef · 04-27-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KansasBronco

I watched the NFL Network the entire draft. Mayock blows away Kiper. I still wanted to see what he said about all the teams.

In a nutshell:

Mayock liked most of the Broncos draft, hated the trade of next years' #1, and hated the loss of Cutler.

chickennob2 · 04-27-2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KansasBronco

I watched the NFL Network the entire draft. Mayock blows away Kiper. I still wanted to see what he said about all the teams.

And Mayock in "big head mode" was great.

ludo21 · 04-27-2009, 08:58 AM

ESPN killed NFLN on the actualy pick coverage though.

They got the pick in 30 seconds or so before NFLN most the time it seemed.

Popcorn Sutton · 04-27-2009, 08:58 AM

What grade did Kiper give the Broncos in 2006?

Tombstone RJ · 04-27-2009, 09:10 AM

When I got a chance to watch the draft, I flipped back and forth between NFLN and ESPN. NFLN has the better analysts for sure (Mayock) but ESPN stayed on point more and actually covered the players more.

On a side note, NFLN had more commericials too. I found myself going to ESPN a lot because NFLN was on commericial break.

Garcia Bronco · 04-27-2009, 09:12 AM

ESPN has yanked any and all final mock drafts by their "draft" experts for being so effing cluelessly wrong.

Garcia Bronco · 04-27-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

When I got a chance to watch the draft, I flipped back and forth between NFLN and ESPN. NFLN has the better analysts for sure (Mayock) but ESPN stayed on point more and actually covered the players more.

On a side note, NFLN had more commericials too. I found myself going to ESPN a lot because NFLN was on commericial break.

I thought the NFLN had much better player analysis. So much so that I stopped even looking at ESPN. Now late second I turned them both off.

Popcorn Sutton · 04-27-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

When I got a chance to watch the draft, I flipped back and forth between NFLN and ESPN. NFLN has the better analysts for sure (Mayock) but ESPN stayed on point more and actually covered the players more.

On a side note, NFLN had more commericials too. I found myself going to ESPN a lot because NFLN was on commericial break.

I also got tired of hearing the NFL draft song "I'm a dreamer..."

GoBroncos DownUnder · 04-27-2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

ESPN killed NFLN on the actualy pick coverage though.

They got the pick in 30 seconds or so before NFLN most the time it seemed.

A measly 30 seconds is a small price to pay for:
NOT having to hear Steve Young cry like petulant child over the firing of Mike Shannahan.
ENJOYING a laugh at and with Mayock, as opposed to Kiper's "there's a stick up my ass, so don't you dare contradict me!" attitude.
And Gruden in BIG HEAD MODE ... a freakin AWESOME laugh to finish off the day!!!

GoBroncos DownUnder · 04-27-2009, 09:28 AM

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04-27-2009, 08:03 AM	#1
KansasBronco Pro Bowler Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 622	Anyone have Kiper's insider grades? Could someone post Kipers grades if they have insider? Would love to have McShay also. Thanks

04-27-2009, 08:22 AM	#2
Dudeskey Ring of Famer This space for rent Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 4,314	**** Kiper....™

04-27-2009, 08:22 AM	#3
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,962 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	Kiper didn't like our draft. Gave up a first for Smith was questionable... yada yada yada. He takes into account us giving up a first and allows that to affect our grade. But he doesn't take into account that the Seahawks gained a pick in 2010 with their grade. Nor does he account for the Eagles trades (Peters and Hobbs) in their draft grade. He's a hack!

04-27-2009, 08:24 AM	#4
Gcver2ver3 Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 6,629 Adopt-a-Bronco: not Lance Ball	Kiper gave us a C.... i don't have insider, i heard it on Mike & Mike...

04-27-2009, 08:26 AM	#5
dbfan21 Broncos Fan in Florida Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 2,182 Adopt-a-Bronco: Pat Bowlen	Seriously. It was so hard to sit and listen to Kiper this weekend. He's wrong so much yet he keeps his job. It was like watching the weatherman tell you it's a beautiful weekend to be outdoors while you're on the back patio watching the rain come down in buckets. Pointless! I am going to reserve judgement on our draft until TC rolls around and I get to see the team in the preseason.

04-27-2009, 08:33 AM	#6
Chris Millenium Scrooge McDuck Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7,541 Adopt-a-Bronco: OrlandoFranklin	Even when he's right it's because he sets it up like such "They're going to take this position, this position or this position" Kiper talks like a muppet and looks like a muppet. I'm seeing flashes f the count. Someone make a Kiper muppet already.

04-27-2009, 08:35 AM	#7
KansasBronco Pro Bowler Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 622	I watched the NFL Network the entire draft. Mayock blows away Kiper. I still wanted to see what he said about all the teams.

04-27-2009, 08:58 AM	#11
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,980 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	ESPN killed NFLN on the actualy pick coverage though. They got the pick in 30 seconds or so before NFLN most the time it seemed.

04-27-2009, 08:58 AM	#12
Popcorn Sutton Ring of Famer Don't mess with Popcorn Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Who cares Posts: 3,758 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jacob Tamme	What grade did Kiper give the Broncos in 2006?

04-27-2009, 09:10 AM	#13
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,527 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	When I got a chance to watch the draft, I flipped back and forth between NFLN and ESPN. NFLN has the better analysts for sure (Mayock) but ESPN stayed on point more and actually covered the players more. On a side note, NFLN had more commericials too. I found myself going to ESPN a lot because NFLN was on commericial break.

04-27-2009, 09:12 AM	#14
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 46,001 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	ESPN has yanked any and all final mock drafts by their "draft" experts for being so effing cluelessly wrong.

04-27-2009, 09:28 AM	#18
GoBroncos DownUnder Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ex-Australia - now in Da 'Boig! Posts: 884 Adopt-a-Bronco: AJ Smith!	I feel like I am 5 years old, but I LOVE this stuff - can't help it!