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Old 04-27-2009, 12:06 AM   #1
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25 1-26 - Percy Harvin, WR, Florida +4 rounds of value!
44 - Clint Sintim, LB, Virginia Went at pick 45! I finally didn't reach for an LB!
56 - Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina Pick 162 Round 5. FAIL
87 - Victor "macho" Harris, CB, Va tech Pick 157, round 5. I should have listened to Med.
108 - Andre Brown, RB, NC State Pick 129 round 4. Not bad.
161 - Mike Goodson, RB, Texas A&M Pick 111 Round 4. Better. This was a BPA
181 - Morgan Trent, CB, Michigan Pick 179. Pretty close.
214 - Ashlee Palmer LB Ole Miss Undrafted. FAil.
237 - Jaison Williams, WR, Oregon Undrafted. FAil

Probably my worst effort. I'm going to blame it on running the draft, which was harder than I thought it would be.
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My Mock draft I

This one was ugly. I was a fill in for a guy that dropped out and didn't scout the Panthers at all. Epic fail all the way.

59 2-27 - Paul Kruger, DE, Utah Pick 57. About right. This all I got right.

93 3-29 - Nate Davis, QB, Ball State Undrafted. This bugs me because I didn't notice he doesn't hold the football right, and all the info about how crappy he was didn't come out until later. Worst. Pick. Ever.

125 4-28 - Roy Miller, DT, Texas Pick 81. Great value here. I guess I wasn't completely horrible.


156 - Quan Cosby, WR, Texas Undrafted. This poor guy had to sit with Bill Cosby the whole draft only to go undrafted.

187 6-27 - Cameron Morrah, TE, California Pick 248. Bit of a late round reach here.

221 7-29 - Drew Willy, QB Buffalo Undrafted Fail.

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Well in the Orangemane draft 2 I had the colts lets see:

27 1-29 Colts - dekers -- Peria Jerry, DT, Ole Miss Round 1 Pick 24 Falcons . good value
61 2-28 Colts - Dekers - Myron Pryor, DT, Kentucky round 6 pick 207 pats bad pick Hugh reach
92 3-31 Colts - Dekers - Marko Mitchell, WR, Nevada round 7 pick 243 Washington another bad pick Hugh reach
127 Indianapolis - Dekers - TJ Lang, OL, Eastern Michigan round 4 pick 109 packers . good value.
136 C Indianapolis - Dekers - Chris Clemons , SS, Clemson round 5 pick 135 Close
165 Indianapolis - dekers - Nick Redd, ILB, Oregon round 7 pick 247. Two round reach.
201 Indianapolis - dekers - Anthony Parker, G, Tennessee undrafted .

We all in all i better not quit my day job . well in less the Raiders need some help next year.
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I had to pull out of Draft II after 3 rounds because of computer issues.

For the Bears up until that point I had.

#18 Larry English - Went at #15, so good value.

#49 Phil Loadholt - Went a couple of picks later to Vikings, so good value and theoretically scuppered a division rival!

Third round I reached for Javon Ringer, who went in the late 5th to The Titans.
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Rey at 23- went to a 4-3 team (stupid Bengals) at 38
Sen'derrick Marks at 63- picked at 62... Titans would've snaked him from me
Jonathan Luigs at 95- picked at 106
Matt Shaughnessy at 100- picked at 71
Pannel Egboh at 159- UDFA to SF!
PSU pick Sargeant at 191- UDFA!
Terrell Byrd at 223- UDFA!

Mock II
Alex Mack at 31- picked at 21
Paul Kruger at 63- picked at 57
Ricky Jean Francois at 95- picked at 244!!!!!!
Johnathan Cassillas at 131- UDFA!
AQ Shipley at 167- picked at 226
Josh Mauga at 204- UDFA!

First few rounds went well before need plugs and special teamers were targeted... then I nabbed a bunch of UDFAs......
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Goodness, where do I start.

OM I-New England Patriots

Draft Selections
1-31 Connor Barwin OLB/TE selected 46 (minus 15)
2-58 Jarron Gilbert DE selected 68 (minus 10)
3-66 Juaquin Iglesias WR Oklahoma selected 99 (minus 33)
3-89 Michael Hamlin S Clemson selected 166 (minus 77)
3-97 Andre Brown RB North Carolina State selected 129 (minus 32)
4-103 Terrance Taylor NT Michigan selected 136 (minus 33)
4-124 Scott McKillop ILB Pittsburgh selected 146 (minus 22)
4-132 Joe Burnett CB UCF selected 168 (minus 36)
5-141 Brandon Gibson WR Washington State selected 194 (minus 53)
5-161 Nic Harris S/LB Oklahoma selected 147 (plus 14)
5-172 Tyronne Green OG Auburn selected 133 (plus 39)
6-177 Stephen McGee QB Texas A&M selected 101 (plus 76)
6-200 Sebastian Vollmer OT selected 58 by NE (plus 142)
6-208 Richard Quinn TE North Carolina selected at 64 (plus 144)
7-213 Greg Toler CB St Paul's College selected 131 (plus 82)
7-236 Kory Sheets RB Purdue Undrafted (minus 21)
UDFA
Jerraud Powers, CB, selected 92 (plus 165)
Moise Fokou, LB, selected 230 (plus 27)
Rich Ohrnberger OG selected by NE 123 (plus 134)
Aaron Kelly WR, Undrafted free agent
Brian Hoyer QB, signed UDFA with NE
Brock Bolen FB, Undrafted free agent
Phil Trautwein OT Undrafted free agent
Adrian Grady DL Undrafted free agent
Dahna Deleston, S Undrafted free agent

So in summary only 1 of my 16 draft picks were not selected in the draft.

Out of 25 new New England Patriots 3 are really Patriots and for draft value purposes I score a plus 491 draft places.
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OM II Dallas Cowboys

51 Patrick Chung, S selected 34 (plus 18)
69 Louis Murphy, WR selected 124 (minus 55)
101 Sherrod Martin, CB/S selected 59 (plus 42)
117 Sammie Lee Hill, NT, selected 115 (plus 2)
156 Frantz Joseph, ILB, Undrafted (minus 101)
166 Brandon Tate, WR/KR selected 83 (plus 83)
172 Stephen McGee, QB selected 101 by Dallas (plus 71)
197 Zach Potter, DE Undrafted (minus 60)
208 Cornelius Lewis OT/OG Undrafted (minus 49)
210 Everette Pedescleaux DE Undrafted (minus 47)
227 Glen Coffee RB selected 74 (plus 153)

1 Cowboy selected actually drafted by the Cowboys. 4 undrafted players out of 11 picks (not good at all), draft space value=(plus 57 pics)
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14 New Orleans - Worm - Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia (+2)
116 New Orleans - Worm - Kevin Barnes, CB Maryland (+36)
118 New Orleans - Worm - Zack Follett, LB, California (-96)
222 New Orleans - Worm - C.J. Spillman, FS, Marshall (Not drafted)

Started off strong...then went with production\heart type players over measurables with the last two picks and got burned.

I still can see Spillman and Follett making 2009 NFL rosters.
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Indianapolis Colts in OM Mock I:

1 (27) Clay Matthews OLB/DE USC Selected 26 +1 value
2 (61) James Casey WR/TE/H-Back Rice Selected 152 -91 Value
3 (94) Dorell Scott DT Clemson Selected 103 -9 value
4 (128) Sherrod Martin CB/S Troy Selected 59 +69 value
4 (139) Jason Williams OLB Western Illinois Selected 69 +70 Value
5 (165) Mohamed Massaquoi WR Georgia Selected 50 +115 Value
6 (203) Bradley Fletcher CB/S Iowa Selected 66 +137 Value
7 (242) John Gill DT Northwestern UDFA -15 value Almost took Jerraud Powers or Chris Owens as top 2 BPA's but had 2 CB/S already. Would have helped value, but not needs.

+ 267 Value on 8 Picks in Draft, with last pick being UDFA need.

UDFA'S:
1. DeAndre Levy Selected 76 +181 Value
2. Andrew Gardener Selected 181 + 76 Value
3. Don Carey Selected 177 + 80 Value
4. Nick Reed Selected 247 + 10 Value
5. John Faletoese UDFA
6. Ryan McKee UDFA
7. Ashlee Palmer UDFA

+ 347 in UDFA Value. DeAndre Levy was the highest player selected of the non-OM drafted players. He beat the next guy Jerraud Powers by 16 selections. Surprised Nick Reed Was drafted, but not that Faletoese, Mckee, and Palmer were not. They are scheme fit players worth a few bucks in FA.

Overall, I loved this draft. Total draft selction value was +614! I spend way too much time on this crap! None of the players were selected by the Colts, but I like the scheme fits. They did select very similar players.

I made my huge mistake buying into the huge TE valuation of second round value run. In reality, TE's were severely devalued because of the supply of quality pass catchers. James Casey is a guy to watch next year. HOU took him in the fifth round and they have Owen Daniels, but he can play WR and RB in the Wildcat. They will get him on the field. He is also overage, and the overage players dropped about 2 rounds of value on average in this draft.

Otherwise, INDY drafted a first rounder, 2 Second's, 2 Third's, a fourth, a fifth, and an UDFA in 8 low round picks with no trades.
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Giants in OM Mock 1:
#33 Brandon Pettigrew- #20 for + 13
#45 William Moore- #55 for - 10
#60 Derrick Williams- #82 for - 22
#65 Fili Moala- #56 for + 9
#126 Brandon Tate- #83 for + 43
#131 Mike Goodson- #111 for + 20
#143 C. Lewis- Undrafted FAIL!
#157 Curtis Painter- #201 for - 44
#188 Jarrius Wynn- #182 for +6 (thanks Med!)
#219 *couldn't make my pick so it was forfeited, but I was gonna take Mike Mitchell who was drafted #47 for + 172

Total of plus 15 with one Undrafted player.

Plus 187 if I include Mitchell! I really have no idea who that guy is still!!!

Looking back at the Giants actual draft, they probably did better than I did in addressing their real needs. Nicks, Stintim and Beatty were their first three plus they got Brown and Bomar in the 4th and 5th rounds. They had a very good draft!

The Eagles draft in the 2nd draft was epic!!!

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12. Robert Ayers, DE (right guy, wrong spot)
18. Rey Maualuga, LB (what should have been )
48. Patrick Chung, S (swing and a miss)
79. Fili Moala, DT (shoulda, shoulda)
84. Glenn Coffee, RB (swing and a miss)
114. Sammie Hill, DE (another shoulda)
149. Nic Harris, SS (nope)
185. Patrick Turner, WR (nope)
225. Louis Vasquez, OG (Broncos took an OC/G here, but not this one)
235. Lee Robinson, LB/STs (right guy, wrong spot - UDFA)
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#21 Beanie Wells- 31 for - 10
#28 Alphonso Smith- 37 - 9
#53 Michael Johnson- 70 - 17 (sucking so far huh!)
#85 Shawn Nelson- 121 - 36 (still sucking! but no huge reaches)
#121 Jason Williams- 69 + 52 (now this is where I get hot! )
#141 Bradley Fletcher- 66 + 75
#153 Donald Washington- 102 + 51
#157 Mike Wallace- 84 + 73
#159 Sebastian Vollmer- 58 + 101 (That's plus 352 in the last 5 picks!!!)
#194 Dominque Johnson- Undrafted-FAIL
#195 Roger Allen Undrafted- FAIL!
#230 Victor Butler- 110 + 130!!!


Gave me a total of Plus 410!!!

*and I didn't have to use a bunch of undrafted FAs that were drafted to inflate my score (MED!). :cool:

Looking back at the Eagles actual draft it's hard to beat.

They got a good CB in a trade (Hobbs) but I'd probably prefer Smith in the draft. They got a good RB in Shady McCoy but I'd prefer Wells. But they got a stud receiver with Maclin. A great TE in Ingram (in the 5th round no less!). Plus they added a OT that is obviously better than anybody I drafted in the trade for Peters. Still, I think I did pretty well for them.

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Old 04-27-2009, 08:14 AM   #15
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NY Giants 2009 Mock Draft
Round 1(29) - Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers - Went 30 (-1)
Round 2(60) - Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio State - Went 154 (-94)
Round 3(91) - Danell Ellerbee, ILB, Georgia - UDFA - Miss big time here!!
Round 3(100) - Asher Allen, CB Georgia - Went 86 - (-14)
Round 4(129) - Xavier Fulton OT, Illinois - Went 155 (+26)
Round 5(164) Richard Quinn TE, North Carolina - Went 64 (+100)
Round 6(200) Arian Foster RB, Tennessee - UDFA - miss!
Round 7(238) Marlon Favorite DT, LSU - UDFA!!

All in all I drafted 3 UDFA, so that is a terrible miss. But I did well with getting good value out of Fulton, and Quinn.

New Orleans Saints 2009 Mock Draft
Round 1(14) - Brian Cushing, LB, USC - Went 15 (-1)
Round 4(116) - Kevin Barnes, CB, Maryland - Went 80 (+36)
Round 7(222) PJ Hill, RB Wisconsin - UDFA
UDFA Keegan Herring, RB ASU - UDFA
UDFA Marlon Favorite, DT LSU - UDFA

So not too bad here, I got +35 value, and drafted a RB that went Undrafted. Any 2 UDFA were just that so thats not bad I suppose.
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Carolina Panthers - OM Mock Draft II

2- 59 Ron Brace, DT, Boston College, selected at 40 +19
3- 93 Ramses Barden, WR, Cal Poly, selected at 85 +8
4-128 Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston St., selected at 151 -23
5-163 Darcel McBath, FS, Texas Tech, selected at 48 +115
6-202 Jerraud Powers, CB, Georgia, selected at 92 +110

For a total value of +229 for my Panther picks.

I also made a couple of fill in picks for Tampa Bay in OM Mock II

7-217 Tom Brandstater, QB, Fresno St., selected at 174 +43
7-233 Brandon Williams, DE, Texas Tech, selected at 120 +113

A total value of +156 for the Tampa Bay picks.

Which is a grand total of +385 value on 7 picks or a value of 55 pts per pick, not bad at all.

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Tennessee Titans - OM Mock Draft #2

#30: Darrius Heyward Bey - Picked #7, +23
#62: Jairus Byrd - Picked #42, +20
#94: Chris Baker - Huge reach, UDFA, -162
#130: Matt Shaughnessy - Picked 71 +59
#136: Worrell Williams - Another big reach, UDFA -120
#173: Edwin Williams - Reach, UDFA -83
#203: Deon Butler - Picked #91 +112
#206: Corvey Irvin - Picked #93 +111
#239: Patrick Turner - Picked #87 +152
#242: Quinton Lawrence - Picked #175 +67

So +179 all-together, not bad but I could have done better on the 3 UDFAs.
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1-18 Bears - Sodak -- Mark Sanchez, QB, USC +13 --Pre-Cutler, this is a steal at this spot
2-17 Bears - Sodak - Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee +31 --Another steal in the middle of the 2nd round. Ayers and Sanchez might be the OROY AND DROY
3-20 Bears - Sodak - Louis Murphy, WR, Florida -43--One round early, but this was a need pick for the Bears
4-19 Bears - Sodak - Tony Kropog, OT, Tulane -16--Another need pick
4A - Bears - Sodak -- Javon Ringer, RB, Michigan State -37
5-18 Bears - Sodak - Derek Pegues, S, Miss. St UDFA --Keep my day job
6-18 Bears - Sodak - Quinten Lawrence, WR, McNeese St +15 -- This guy sucks since the Chiefs took him
6-19 Bears (Buccs) - Ryan Purvis, TE, Boston College - UDFA
7-17 Bears -- Brigham Harwell, DT, UCLA -UDFA
7-COMP Sammie Stroughter-WR +13
7-COMP Antonio Appleby-LB -UDFA

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Washington Redskins were my team I drafted for, and only had 4 picks.

13 1-13 Darius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland Taken 7th by Oakland
75 3-11 Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty 250th pick by Jacksonville
142 5-14 Jason Watkins, OT, Florida Undrafted signed with Houston
Comp 7B Slade Norris, OLB/DE, Oregon State 126th pick by Oakland


Still can't figure out how Jennings possibly fell that far. Everything I read had him ranked as the 7th best RB in the draft. Jacksonville got a major steal in the 7th with him.

Was decent picking of Heyward-Bey where i did

As for the Norris, not sure if he is better than i had him chosen, or if the Raiders reached again.
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Lets see here.

Mock 1:
1. Eugene Monroe - (8) -7 Value
20. Alphonso Smith - (37) -17 Value
29. Lames Lauriniatus - (35) -6 Value
82. Alex Magee - (67) +15 Value
91. Trevor Canfield - (254) Leta just say ot was a major reach, ok?
129. Jonathan Cassilias - (UD) The hits just keep on coming
161 Terrance Kighton - (72) +89 MAJOR VALUE
180 Carry Harris - (183) Pretty much right on the head

I would give it a solid B-

Mock II:

16. Ray Ray - (38) -22 Reach
78. Craig Urbik - (79) Spot on!
113. Kyle Moore - (117) Another close one
133. Javarris Williams - (212) Reach
134. Curtis Taylor - (219) Reach
148. Garrett Reynolds - (156) Close
189. Cary Harris - (183) Close
224. Aaron Brown - (192) +32 Value

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Draft I: Houston Texans

1-15: Tyson Jackson DE +12 Probably where he deserved to go, but great value here.
2-46: Donald Brown RB +19 Another great value in the middle of the second
3-77: David Bruton FS -37 A slight reach but immediate ST impact and long-term potential make him worth it
4-108: Mike Thomas WR +1 Pegged this one. Should be a nice slot receiver
5-144: Lee Robinson LB UDFA No denying the reach, but let's hope he pans out
6-175: Anthony Hill TE +22 Solid value for a blocking specialist, take notes McD
7-206: Kyle Link OT UDFA Crapshoot pick, who knows where he ends up

The first day worked out well for me, and I'll stand by my second day picks even if I reached slightly for Bruton and the UDFA's...

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Excellent thread Kahn, I was just thinking about starting this type of thread before I saw this one!

OM MOCK DRAFT II

RAMS-

#2 Jason Smith OT (Baylor) Rams took my advice and picked Smith.

#35 Louis Delmas S (Western Michigan) Went to the Lions at #33

#66 Duke Robinson OG (Oklahoma) Looks like I underestimated rumors of Duke falling further, he went #133 overall in the 5th...he dropped a lot. Ouch

#103 Jason Phillips ILB (TCU) Went 34 picks later than where I picked him. Not too bad...

#138 Derrick Williams WR (Penn. St) Looks like I got a steal, Derrick went #82 overall, in the third round.

#176 Will Davis DE (Illni) Went to the Cardinals about 28 picks later, he's a project so not a surprise he was picked this late.

#211 Frank Summers RB/FB (UNLV)Went early to Pittsburgh at #169 in the fifth. Should be a really good short yardage back.

I'd give myself an B plus. The Duke pick was bad, definitely reached. However I'd like to think my draft is a shiny new vehicle and Duke is just a small dent to that new vehicle.
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Here's the results for the Pittsburgh Steelers in OM Mock Draft I:

1-32 Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State - Selected 1-11 +21 value
2-64 Jarius Byrd, CB, Oregon - Selected 2-42 +22 value
3-96 Coye Francies, CB, San Jose State - Selected 6-191 -95 value
3-98 Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State - UDFA -159 value
4-132 Austin Collie, WR, BYU - Selected 4-127 +5 value
5-170 David Veikune, DE, Hawaii - Selected 2-52 +118 value
6-187 Donald Washington, CB, Ohio State - Selected 4-102 +85 value
7-243 Alex Boone, OT, Ohio State - UDFA -14 value
Total value of draft = -17 (the 3rd round was a disaster!)

UDFA Round
Ryan Mouton, CB, Hawaii - Selected 3-94 +162 value
Kaluka Maiava, OLB, USC - Selected 4-104 +152 value
Bernard Scott, RB, Abilene Christian - Selected 6-209 +47 value
Blake Schlueter, OC, TCU - Selected 7-225 +31 value
Jason Boltus, QB, Hartwick
Conredge Collins, FB, Pittsburgh
Andrew Hartline, OG, Central Michigan
Greg Isdaner, OG, West Virginia
Ian Johnson, RB, Boise State
Jorvorskie Lane, FB, Texas A&M
Marlin Lucky, RB, Nebraska
Walter Mendenhall, RB, Illinois State
Cecil Newton, OC, Tennessee State
Tyler Roehl, RB, North Dakota State
Michael Tauiliili, LB, Duke
Willie Williams, LB, Union College

Total value of UDFA Round = +392 (proving that if you throw enough **** on the wall in free agency, some of it will stick!)

Pittsburgh Steelers' total value in 2009 draft = +375 points

Do I get any bonus points for being the only person in either draft to select Blake Schlueter?
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And here's the results for the San Francisco 49ers in OM Mock Draft II:

1-10 Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State - Selected 1-14 -4 value
2-43 Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State - Selected 1-17 +26 value
3-74 Pat White, QB/WR, West Virginia - Selected 2-44 +30 value
4-111 Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State - UDFA -146 value
5-146 Austin Collie, WR, BYU - Selected 4-127 +19 value
5-171 David Veikune, DE, Hawaii - Selected 2-52 +118 value
6-184 Lydon Murtha, OT, Nebraska - Selected 7-228 -44 value
7-219 Bernard Scott, RB, Abilene Christian - Selected 6-209 +10 value
7-244 Andrew Gardner, OT, Georgia Tech - Selected 6-181 +63 value

Total value of draft = +72 (mostly spot-on, but again, the Cadogan pick killed me)
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[QUOTE=eddie mac;2399578]
6-200 Sebastian Vollmer OT selected 58 by NE (plus 142)
6-208 Richard Quinn TE North Carolina selected at 64 (plus 144)
7-213 Greg Toler CB St Paul's College selected 131 (plus 82)
UDFA Jerraud Powers, CB, selected 92 (plus 165)
UDFA Rich Ohrnberger OG selected by NE 123 (plus 134)QUOTE]

Rep for the picks above. Beautiful drafting!
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