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Old 04-26-2009, 10:34 PM   #1
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Default The 1st rounder we traded MIGHT BE agreed the lower of the two

There's some buzz here about the trade ... I will watch the Jim Mora Seahawks draft special later tonight, and check the local media here, but we might have protection on the 2010 1st rounder.

We MAY have stipulated Seattle gets whichever pick was lower.
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Old 04-26-2009, 10:35 PM   #2
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Old 04-26-2009, 10:36 PM   #3
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that would make me feel better.
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That is what I heard but based on McDaniels interview today it appears that it is Denver's. He actually said he had no idea which one would be better.
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That is what I heard but based on McDaniels interview today it appears that it is Denver's. He actually said he had no idea which one would be better.
of course he doesnt, if we have a better record than them we have the lower pick.
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Well, I can't find anything ... most of the links appear to merely assume it's Denver's pick. But the security guy at the desk in my building here heard on the radio it's the lower of the two .... and I heard that Atlas might've posted something here to that effect.

But if Josh said it's our pick - then that's probably right.
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That would make this draft at least tolerable.
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Old 04-26-2009, 10:47 PM   #9
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Interesting. Heres what Im trying to reconcile. At first when I heard McDaniels talk about haggling over it, I wondered if they had to make a decision because they were up against the gun timewise. But I also remember someone referencing McDaniels talking about looking ahead to the second round and talking about more than one picks...in other words, he knew at the end of the first they would be trading up into the 2nd. I wonder why they would be so willing to give up our first unless they were under the gun?
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It would make SO MUCH sense to protect it as the lower of the two .... rookie mistake if he did not?

Josh could not have specified it to be the Bears pick, because he would look like he had no confidence in his 2009 squad ... that wouldda been a mistake. But stipulating the lower of the two, now that makes sense.
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Based on Mcdaniels interview, we did not give up our first but the worst of the two whatever that is.
Anybody see this presser?

Did it sound like that to you?
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On trading own pick in 2010 draft to Seattle to acquire CB Alphonso Smith (2nd Rd., 37th overall, Wake Forest University)
"We agreed that (the pick) could be ours. After talking through with (Seattle), we felt like ‘that's okay, we'll roll the dice. I have no idea where Chicago's pick is going to be, and I don't have the foresight to know where our pick is going to be. So, we felt like, at that point to haggle over something like that, that may not turn out in your favor, but it may. After discussing it with (Seattle), we said, ‘alright, let's go ahead and do it."

Directly from the presser
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Anybody see this presser?

Did it sound like that to you?
BB, from a legal standpoint, wouldn't you want to clarify that before making the trade....what are these guys dealing on spit n' a handshake?
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BB, from a legal standpoint, wouldn't you want to clarify that before making the trade....what are these guys dealing on spit n' a handshake?
Yes I agree ... I think we could've stipulkated the lower of the two, and probably still made the deal. Probably a rookie mistake by Josh.

And if Seattle wanted our pick specifically ... that tells you what they think of how we will do compared to the Bears.

While McD could have and should have insisted on the lower of the two .... he could not have insisted on the Bears pick. That wouldda looked bad.


And after DeusExJosh's post ....



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On trading own pick in 2010 draft to Seattle to acquire CB Alphonso Smith (2nd Rd., 37th overall, Wake Forest University)
"We agreed that (the pick) could be ours. After talking through with (Seattle), we felt like ‘that's okay, we'll roll the dice. I have no idea where Chicago's pick is going to be, and I don't have the foresight to know where our pick is going to be. So, we felt like, at that point to haggle over something like that, that may not turn out in your favor, but it may. After discussing it with (Seattle), we said, ‘alright, let's go ahead and do it."

Directly from the presser
He should have been honest with himself and traded Chicago's pick away rather than ours. It would have looked bad, but it would have been the better move, given all of our problems and schedule.
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Yes I agree ... I think we could've stipulkated the lower of the two, and probably still made the deal. Probably a rookie mistake by Josh.

And if Seattle wanted our pick specifically ... that tells you what they think of how we will do compared to the Bears.

While McD could have and should have insisted on the lower of the two .... he could not have insisted on the Bears pick. That wouldda looked bad.


And after DeusExJosh's post ....



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Yeah, but I'm "lying" if I say that I personally know people (in Washington state) who have stated that they think it is possible for Josh McDaniels to make a rookie mistake.
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Yeah, but I'm "lying" if I say that I personally know people (in Washington state) who have stated that they think it is possible for Josh McDaniels to make a rookie mistake.
... you took some intense heat in that thread ... nice rebuttal there.


That is sad ... the Seahawks insisted on OUR pick
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... you took some intense heat in that thread ... nice rebuttal there.


That is sad ... the Seahawks insisted on OUR pick
In their place, I would have, too. I've looked at our schedule.
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He should have been honest with himself and traded Chicago's pick away rather than ours. It would have looked bad, but it would have been the better move, given all of our problems and schedule.
I think he should just cancel the season, spend a full year pouting... and then quit.
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I think he should just cancel the season, spend a full year pouting... and then quit.
What an excellent rebuttal.

Still fighting that Jay vs. Josh fight I see.....
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Id like to know what exactly Seattle was going to take. Only a pick or two later NE used lower round picks this year to move up...which was what we should have done.
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Id like to know what exactly Seattle was going to take. Only a pick or two later NE used lower round picks this year to move up...which was what we should have done.
It was high-stakes poker and a noob blinked.
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Yes I agree ... I think we could've stipulkated the lower of the two, and probably still made the deal. Probably a rookie mistake by Josh.

And if Seattle wanted our pick specifically ... that tells you what they think of how we will do compared to the Bears.

While McD could have and should have insisted on the lower of the two .... he could not have insisted on the Bears pick. That wouldda looked bad.


And after DeusExJosh's post ....



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I will never change my name to DeusExJosh unless we win 2 superbowls.
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I will never change my name to DeusExJosh unless we win 2 superbowls.
You saw that, did you?


Blue, I sense you're right ... highs stakes poker, and the noob blinked.
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I will never change my name to DeusExJosh unless we win 2 superbowls.
Dont you mean 2 in the first 4 years?
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