The 1st rounder we traded MIGHT BE agreed the lower of the two - The Orange Mane

BroncoBuff · 04-26-2009, 10:34 PM

There's some buzz here about the trade ... I will watch the Jim Mora Seahawks draft special later tonight, and check the local media here, but we might have protection on the 2010 1st rounder.

We MAY have stipulated Seattle gets whichever pick was lower.

MagicHef · 04-26-2009, 10:35 PM

Cool, maybe.

OABB · 04-26-2009, 10:36 PM

that would make me feel better.

DeusExManning · 04-26-2009, 10:36 PM

That is what I heard but based on McDaniels interview today it appears that it is Denver's. He actually said he had no idea which one would be better.

Natedog24 · 04-26-2009, 10:37 PM

Really hope so...

tsiguy96 · 04-26-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DeusExShanahan

That is what I heard but based on McDaniels interview today it appears that it is Denver's. He actually said he had no idea which one would be better.

of course he doesnt, if we have a better record than them we have the lower pick.

BroncoBuff · 04-26-2009, 10:41 PM

Well, I can't find anything ... most of the links appear to merely assume it's Denver's pick. But the security guy at the desk in my building here heard on the radio it's the lower of the two .... and I heard that Atlas might've posted something here to that effect.

But if Josh said it's our pick - then that's probably right.

Wes Mantooth · 04-26-2009, 10:44 PM

That would make this draft at least tolerable.

lex · 04-26-2009, 10:47 PM

Interesting. Heres what Im trying to reconcile. At first when I heard McDaniels talk about haggling over it, I wondered if they had to make a decision because they were up against the gun timewise. But I also remember someone referencing McDaniels talking about looking ahead to the second round and talking about more than one picks...in other words, he knew at the end of the first they would be trading up into the 2nd. I wonder why they would be so willing to give up our first unless they were under the gun?

BroncoBuff · 04-26-2009, 10:51 PM

It would make SO MUCH sense to protect it as the lower of the two .... rookie mistake if he did not?

Josh could not have specified it to be the Bears pick, because he would look like he had no confidence in his 2009 squad ... that wouldda been a mistake. But stipulating the lower of the two, now that makes sense.

BroncoBuff · 04-26-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeusExShanahan

Based on Mcdaniels interview, we did not give up our first but the worst of the two whatever that is.

Anybody see this presser?

Did it sound like that to you?

DeusExManning · 04-26-2009, 11:06 PM

On trading own pick in 2010 draft to Seattle to acquire CB Alphonso Smith (2nd Rd., 37th overall, Wake Forest University)
"We agreed that (the pick) could be ours. After talking through with (Seattle), we felt like ‘that's okay, we'll roll the dice. I have no idea where Chicago's pick is going to be, and I don't have the foresight to know where our pick is going to be. So, we felt like, at that point to haggle over something like that, that may not turn out in your favor, but it may. After discussing it with (Seattle), we said, ‘alright, let's go ahead and do it."

Directly from the presser

Vegas_Bronco · 04-26-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Anybody see this presser?

Did it sound like that to you?

BB, from a legal standpoint, wouldn't you want to clarify that before making the trade....what are these guys dealing on

spit n' a handshake?

BroncoBuff · 04-26-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas_Bronco

BB, from a legal standpoint, wouldn't you want to clarify that before making the trade....what are these guys dealing on

spit n' a handshake?

Yes I agree ... I think we could've stipulkated the lower of the two, and probably still made the deal. Probably a rookie mistake by Josh.

And if Seattle wanted our pick specifically ... that tells you what they think of how we will do compared to the Bears.

While McD could have and should have insisted on the lower of the two .... he could not have insisted on the Bears pick. That wouldda looked bad.

And after DeusExJosh's post ....

END THREAD

SoCalBronco · 04-26-2009, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeusExShanahan

On trading own pick in 2010 draft to Seattle to acquire CB Alphonso Smith (2nd Rd., 37th overall, Wake Forest University)
"We agreed that (the pick) could be ours. After talking through with (Seattle), we felt like ‘that's okay, we'll roll the dice. I have no idea where Chicago's pick is going to be, and I don't have the foresight to know where our pick is going to be. So, we felt like, at that point to haggle over something like that, that may not turn out in your favor, but it may. After discussing it with (Seattle), we said, ‘alright, let's go ahead and do it."

Directly from the presser

He should have been honest with himself and traded Chicago's pick away rather than ours. It would have looked bad, but it would have been the better move, given all of our problems and schedule.

Blueflame · 04-26-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Yes I agree ... I think we could've stipulkated the lower of the two, and probably still made the deal. Probably a rookie mistake by Josh.

And if Seattle wanted our pick specifically ... that tells you what they think of how we will do compared to the Bears.

While McD could have and should have insisted on the lower of the two .... he could not have insisted on the Bears pick. That wouldda looked bad.

And after DeusExJosh's post ....

END THREAD

Yeah, but I'm "lying" if I say that I personally know people (in Washington state) who have stated that they think it is possible for Josh McDaniels to make a rookie mistake.

BroncoBuff · 04-26-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueflame

Yeah, but I'm "lying" if I say that I personally know people (in Washington state) who have stated that they think it is possible for Josh McDaniels to make a rookie mistake.

... you took some intense heat in that thread ... nice rebuttal there.

That is sad ... the Seahawks insisted on OUR pick

Blueflame · 04-26-2009, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

... you took some intense heat in that thread ... nice rebuttal there.

That is sad ... the Seahawks insisted on OUR pick

In their place, I would have, too. I've looked at our schedule.

Popps · 04-26-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

He should have been honest with himself and traded Chicago's pick away rather than ours. It would have looked bad, but it would have been the better move, given all of our problems and schedule.

I think he should just cancel the season, spend a full year pouting... and then quit.

BroncoBuff · 04-26-2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

I think he should just cancel the season, spend a full year pouting... and then quit.

What an excellent rebuttal.

Still fighting that Jay vs. Josh fight I see.....

lex · 04-26-2009, 11:34 PM

Id like to know what exactly Seattle was going to take. Only a pick or two later NE used lower round picks this year to move up...which was what we should have done.

Blueflame · 04-26-2009, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lex

Id like to know what exactly Seattle was going to take. Only a pick or two later NE used lower round picks this year to move up...which was what we should have done.

It was high-stakes poker and a noob blinked.

DeusExManning · 04-26-2009, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Yes I agree ... I think we could've stipulkated the lower of the two, and probably still made the deal. Probably a rookie mistake by Josh.

And if Seattle wanted our pick specifically ... that tells you what they think of how we will do compared to the Bears.

While McD could have and should have insisted on the lower of the two .... he could not have insisted on the Bears pick. That wouldda looked bad.

And after DeusExJosh's post ....

END THREAD

I will never change my name to DeusExJosh unless we win 2 superbowls.

BroncoBuff · 04-26-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DeusExShanahan

I will never change my name to DeusExJosh unless we win 2 superbowls.

You saw that, did you?

Blue, I sense you're right ... highs stakes poker, and the noob blinked.

lex · 04-27-2009, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeusExShanahan

I will never change my name to DeusExJosh unless we win 2 superbowls.

Dont you mean 2 in the first 4 years?

04-26-2009, 10:34 PM	#1
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,470 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	The 1st rounder we traded MIGHT BE agreed the lower of the two There's some buzz here about the trade ... I will watch the Jim Mora Seahawks draft special later tonight, and check the local media here, but we might have protection on the 2010 1st rounder. We MAY have stipulated Seattle gets whichever pick was lower.

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04-26-2009, 10:35 PM	#2
MagicHef Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,441 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Cool, maybe.

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OABB Master of Karate aaahaaaaaaaaah Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los angeles Posts: 7,141 Adopt-a-Bronco: tgnsmyb****	that would make me feel better.

04-26-2009, 10:36 PM	#4
DeusExManning Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orange County Posts: 1,336	That is what I heard but based on McDaniels interview today it appears that it is Denver's. He actually said he had no idea which one would be better.

04-26-2009, 10:37 PM	#5
Natedog24 Ring of Famer Win The Day Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 2,188 Adopt-a-Bronco: JeremiahJohnson	Really hope so...

04-26-2009, 10:41 PM	#7
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,470 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	Well, I can't find anything ... most of the links appear to merely assume it's Denver's pick. But the security guy at the desk in my building here heard on the radio it's the lower of the two .... and I heard that Atlas might've posted something here to that effect. But if Josh said it's our pick - then that's probably right.

04-26-2009, 10:44 PM	#8
Wes Mantooth Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,476	That would make this draft at least tolerable.

04-26-2009, 10:47 PM	#9
lex Bowlen Sold Us Out! The Broncos have been DisemBowlened Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 10,253 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Interesting. Heres what Im trying to reconcile. At first when I heard McDaniels talk about haggling over it, I wondered if they had to make a decision because they were up against the gun timewise. But I also remember someone referencing McDaniels talking about looking ahead to the second round and talking about more than one picks...in other words, he knew at the end of the first they would be trading up into the 2nd. I wonder why they would be so willing to give up our first unless they were under the gun?

04-26-2009, 10:51 PM	#10
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,470 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	It would make SO MUCH sense to protect it as the lower of the two .... rookie mistake if he did not? Josh could not have specified it to be the Bears pick, because he would look like he had no confidence in his 2009 squad ... that wouldda been a mistake. But stipulating the lower of the two, now that makes sense.

04-26-2009, 11:06 PM	#12
DeusExManning Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orange County Posts: 1,336	On trading own pick in 2010 draft to Seattle to acquire CB Alphonso Smith (2nd Rd., 37th overall, Wake Forest University) "We agreed that (the pick) could be ours. After talking through with (Seattle), we felt like ‘that's okay, we'll roll the dice. I have no idea where Chicago's pick is going to be, and I don't have the foresight to know where our pick is going to be. So, we felt like, at that point to haggle over something like that, that may not turn out in your favor, but it may. After discussing it with (Seattle), we said, ‘alright, let's go ahead and do it." Directly from the presser

04-26-2009, 11:34 PM	#21
lex Bowlen Sold Us Out! The Broncos have been DisemBowlened Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 10,253 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Id like to know what exactly Seattle was going to take. Only a pick or two later NE used lower round picks this year to move up...which was what we should have done.