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Old 04-26-2009, 04:21 PM   #1
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Best- Robert Ayers - needed a guy that can be a versatle player along the dline. Has explosive power and a nice burst that should allow us to get more pressure. Mayock thinks he will be the best defensive player in the draft 3 years out, Lets hope so.

Worst- Alphonso Smith- love the guy to death, just can't justify giving up OUR 1st rounder next season. We are probably going to be 5-11, maybe a game or two better, and i just don't think it was a smart move to sign a short DB.
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Old 04-26-2009, 04:30 PM   #2
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I hate to say it, but I go with a tie on worse.

Worse: Moreno/Smith. If we didn't need our first next year, we should have tried to trade up and help the front seven, or picked Ayers and Orakpo both. Until I see that the new defensive scheme makes our front seven MUCH better than the last couple years, I can't see going offense in the first, even as good as Moreno might be.

Best: I'll go with Ayers. Moreno might be the best player, but again, goes back to the needs.
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I hate to say it, but I go with a tie on worse.

Worse: Moreno/Smith. If we didn't need our first next year, we should have tried to trade up and help the front seven, or picked Ayers and Orakpo both. Until I see that the new defensive scheme makes our front seven MUCH better than the last couple years, I can't see going offense in the first, even as good as Moreno might be.

Best: I'll go with Ayers. Moreno might be the best player, but again, goes back to the needs.
This makes little sense. You never want to draft for need. First off, we don't have a dynamic runner on the roster, so this wasnt exactly a luxury pick. Since we didnt move up for Raji, anything else would have been a reach. I think you'll sing a different tune when Moreno rushes for over a thousand and Orakpo has 3.5 sacks.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:01 PM   #4
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Worst move was trading two 3rd rounders for a blocking TE that was projected to go in the 5th round. I still cant figure that one out, its like McD was just trying to get rid of picks.
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Worst: Richard Quinn
Trading up for him IMO showed a lack of experience.
I mean I really dont see what we can get out of a blocking TE that would warrant what we gave up. He is a situational player.

Best: Ayers, even though it is a redundant answer.

His value seemed to match our need, and he does have potential to be special
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:04 PM   #6
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I hate to say it, but I go with a tie on worse.

Worse: Moreno/Smith. If we didn't need our first next year, we should have tried to trade up and help the front seven, or picked Ayers and Orakpo both. Until I see that the new defensive scheme makes our front seven MUCH better than the last couple years, I can't see going offense in the first, even as good as Moreno might be.

Best: I'll go with Ayers. Moreno might be the best player, but again, goes back to the needs.
With the way we lost RB's left and right. Moreno may just be the best decision of the draft.
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I love them all, except any who turn out to be busts.
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Moreno might be the best player, but again, goes back to the needs.
Remember, he's coming to a team where the only RB not on IR is Tatum.
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Quinn is the worst, and while that WR from SC is talented, I wouldn't have drafted him.

Best: The best player we got was Moreno, I don't know why people don't like the pick, especially lex since he was such a prick about not getting a 1st round RB last year. But my favorites are Ayers and Smith.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:24 PM   #10
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With the way we lost RB's left and right. Moreno may just be the best decision of the draft.
He might, but based on the "lost RB's left and right", the argument would be for quantity, not quality.

I've been wanting a top tier, 25 carry a game back ever since we traded Portis. I love having him on the team. However, until I see that we have a front seven already on the roster capable of winning this year, I can't see that being a good pick.
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Remember, he's coming to a team where the only RB not on IR is Tatum.
Jordan 2 years, $2.5 million ($500k signing bonus)
Arrington 4 years $10 million ($1.8 million signing bonus)
Buckhalter 4 years $10 million ($1.8 million guaranteed)

Yes, Moreno has much more upside.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:35 PM   #12
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Best : Great 1st round... solid pickups in the 2nd day with the Guard, WR, and developmental QB

Worst: Smith & Quinn are going make me scratch my head for a VERY long time.
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Worst move was trading two 3rd rounders for a blocking TE that was projected to go in the 5th round. I still cant figure that one out, its like McD was just trying to get rid of picks.


Patriots have their own way of looking at players and going to get players that fit what they try to do, so they constantly move up and down the board trying to target good players they can get cheaply. McDaniels is doing the same thing.

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I love them all, except any who turn out to be busts.
exactly that TE puts people on there buts and Moreno rolls in for 10-15 tds a yr people will love him, buy his jersey, and let them screw their daughters.
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Patriots have their own way of looking at players and going to get players that fit what they try to do, so they constantly move up and down the board trying to target good players they can get cheaply. McDaniels is doing the same thing.

Except for the "Move Down" part...
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Except for the "Move Down" part...

I was referring to the Patriots. If the Broncos did not have anyone they wanted worth the 18th pick, it would have been given to someone, like Buffalo or Cleveland, and we would have moved back into the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Not a bad thing, just different then what we are used to.


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I love the first round, but I am frustrated at how they went after free agency if they knew that they would have a chance to get the best running back available. We have 9 running backs and spent a bunch of money in the secondary also. So where do two of our first three picks go? Those spots we just spent a bunch of money on.
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I love the first round, but I am frustrated at how they went after free agency if they knew that they would have a chance to get the best running back available. We have 9 running backs and spent a bunch of money in the secondary also. So where do two of our first three picks go? Those spots we just spent a bunch of money on.
Even with the secondary moves in free agency, we need a nickel CB. Hopefully, Smith can keep slot receivers from torching us like in recent years. He needs to at the price we paid for him.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:46 PM   #19
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what were the length of contracts JJ Arrington, Lamont and Buckhalter signed?
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what were the length of contracts JJ Arrington, Lamont and Buckhalter signed?
4, 4, and 2. I forget in what order.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:49 PM   #21
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The first three picks are all solid picks. It's unfortunate that we had to designate next year's number one in the trade and couldn't just have identified it as the lower of the two picks.

The TE is frustrating, but Belichick and Parcells have a long history of frustrating their fan bases with curious TE selections, when not thought a need.
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Even with the secondary moves in free agency, we need a nickel CB. Hopefully, Smith can keep slot receivers from torching us like in recent years. He needs to at the price we paid for him.

Alot of people considered him the 2nd best corner in this draft, if he winds up starting at some point and is a probowler, the argument will mutate into we fleeced Pittsburgh for him...


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Old 04-26-2009, 05:50 PM   #23
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Best: I really liked Ayers before the draft so to get a player I was high on is nice. I hope it works out well for us.

Worst: The Center in the last round makes me scratch my head. We could have gotten him as a UDFA most likely and we could have drafted Froncois from LSU at DT instead.

all in all I think I liked how things went down.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:52 PM   #24
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I absolutely love all three of our first picks....but don't like the price we paid.

Worst Pick: I'll go with McD's judgement pick of giving up a first round pick for a player we could have easily acquired from any other team for the same price.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:57 PM   #25
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best pick = Knowshon Moreno...gutsy pick that makes more sense each time i think about it...Knowshon has a chance to be the best back in the AFC within 2 yrs or less...

worste pick = Richard Quinn...i almost picked Smith, but Smith actually has a 1st round grade so while it was expensive, he may be justified...but Quinn i doubt was targeted by NFL teams as much as McD thinks...then again, he'd know better than me...
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