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Old 04-25-2009, 03:54 PM   #1
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Default Robert Ayers = Justin Smith, Nolan's Joker

I believe it was Montrose who posted some solid analysis of Nolan's defense and talked frequently about his use of Justin Smith as a "joker" who moved around all over the defense to rush the passer. Similar build, similar skillset. I think this was the thought process.
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Old 04-25-2009, 04:00 PM   #2
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I like the pick (as you can probably see from my adopt-a-bronco). I think he is the right fit for the scheme.
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Old 04-25-2009, 04:07 PM   #3
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I personally think they are pegging Elvis as the Joker and Ayers will play DE opposite Markus Thomas, I like the pick by the way.
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Old 04-25-2009, 04:11 PM   #4
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I personally think they are pegging Elvis as the Joker and Ayers will play DE opposite Markus Thomas, I like the pick by the way.
too small to be a 3-4 DE. He'll be a tweener where Nolan could run a 3-4 with him @ OLB or a 4-3 formation w/ his hand in the dirt @ DE. Like the pick though.

Edit: Here's another thought- maybe 2 jokers (Ayers & Doom) for Nolan, eh?..™

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Old 04-25-2009, 04:30 PM   #5
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Ayers at 18 is great value and addresses a need. Very well done!
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I don't think Ayers can play the DE in a 3-4 all the time. In fact, if they just keep him as a DE in a 3-4 and that's it, I don't see Ayers being anything that great. He simply isn't big enough to play exclusively the DE in a 3-4.

I think as some others have suggested, the Broncos will mix their defenses up and Ayers will move around. I believe that's what they should do at least.
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Old 04-25-2009, 04:39 PM   #7
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Ayers at 18 is great value and addresses a need. Very well done!
True. I think that the Chargers would have grabbed Moreno at 16, so I think that McDaniels played this nicely.
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Ayers has an unbelievable motor and one of the strongest players I've seen...put a few pounds on him and he'll fit in the DE spot in a 3-4 nicely.
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Don't worry about the one-year-wonder tag Ayers has been recieving. As bad as our offense was this past season, he got plenty of experience. So much so, that he burned his sixth year of eligibility.
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I believe it was Montrose who posted some solid analysis of Nolan's defense and talked frequently about his use of Justin Smith as a "joker" who moved around all over the defense to rush the passer. Similar build, similar skillset. I think this was the thought process.
First of all Justin Smith wasn't the Joker role for SF. He played the majority of time at DE. Second Smith is 285/290, while Ayers is 265/270 and will most like play with hand off the ground. IF we are lucky in two to three years we have a player like Thomas from the NE Patriots. Ayers has experience moving around and playing in multiply spots in front seven, but will need to work on his technique and learn to place in space against TE and RB in the NFL.

It not a bad pick but it not going to be a player that immediately is penciled in to start on day one.
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Watching him pick off Stafford was fun.
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First of all Justin Smith wasn't the Joker role for SF. He played the majority of time at DE. Second Smith is 285/290, while Ayers is 265/270 and will most like play with hand off the ground. IF we are lucky in two to three years we have a player like Thomas from the NE Patriots. Ayers has experience moving around and playing in multiply spots in front seven, but will need to work on his technique and learn to place in space against TE and RB in the NFL.

It not a bad pick but it not going to be a player that immediately is penciled in to start on day one.
Justin Smith was 267 when he was drafted.
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Old 04-26-2009, 07:10 AM   #14
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Watching him pick off Stafford was fun.
Yah, and I think there was a clip of him drilling Moreno in the backfield. That was cool. I like how they both popped right back up.

Are they competitors? I have hope.
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Justin Smith was 267 when he was drafted.
But by the time he went to SF as FA, five years later he was 285 pounds.
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Old 04-26-2009, 02:55 PM   #16
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Comparing Ayers to a Bengal doesn't help confidence.
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:23 PM   #17
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This was a great pick- I love it!
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:57 PM   #18
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Check out the videos on nfl.com - Mike Mayock makes a statement (from before the draft) that he thinks in three years time he's going to be seen as the BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE DRAFT!!

No there's no law that says you have to believe everything Mayock says...but you better be sure you know your effin' onions if you're going to disagree with him....

I like the pick....
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I like the pick. He says Coach Martindale called him personally, so he's going to be a LB.

Fun Fact: He was on Tennessee's 4x100m relay team.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:30 PM   #20
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Check out the videos on nfl.com - Mike Mayock makes a statement (from before the draft) that he thinks in three years time he's going to be seen as the BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE DRAFT!!

No there's no law that says you have to believe everything Mayock says...but you better be sure you know your effin' onions if you're going to disagree with him....

I like the pick....
And Mayock also had Moreno as the second best offensive player in the draft behind Monroe...we got two of Mayock's top 3 in the entire draft.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:33 PM   #21
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Anyone remember how it turned out the last time we drafted a guy to play a specific role in our DC´s system?

Hint: Jason Taylor, Jim Bates

Not a knock on Ayers, just think it´s a bit stupid to compare him to other players who played a specific role for Nolan.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:53 PM   #22
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I really don't see how Ayers fits into the 3-4. I think he is to slow to cover plus not good pass rusher for 3-4 outside linebacker. I don't think he has the size to play 5 tech defensive end. I hate to see what NFL offensives do running the ball against Denver with Ayers at De and Dumervil at linebacker on Denvers right side of the line. I Ayers tested out as one of the worst de at the combine. I think he ran somethink like 4.93 and only did 18 reps at 225.He also had a bad verticle compared to other De. I think Ayers is perfect for 4-3 LDe but not for the 3-4.
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I really don't see how Ayers fits into the 3-4. I think he is to slow to cover plus not good pass rusher for 3-4 outside linebacker. I don't think he has the size to play 5 tech defensive end. I hate to see what NFL offensives do running the ball against Denver with Ayers at De and Dumervil at linebacker on Denvers right side of the line. I Ayers tested out as one of the worst de at the combine. I think he ran somethink like 4.93 and only did 18 reps at 225.He also had a bad verticle compared to other De. I think Ayers is perfect for 4-3 LDe but not for the 3-4.
Please don't be ignorant. He'll b e a great fit at SOLB. And he's on Tennessee's 4x100m relay, so speed isn't an issue. He ran a 4.9 at the combine but is a 4.7 guy. He's incredibly versatile.
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:01 PM   #24
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I LOVE THIS PICK!

Finally someone who WANTS the QB on every play.
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:04 PM   #25
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I like the pick. He says Coach Martindale called him personally, so he's going to be a LB.

Fun Fact: He was on Tennessee's 4x100m relay team.
They must not have any 180lb burners at Tennessee....A 270lb sprinter??
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